Boehner is not the best liar…

It’s obvious that the GOP is willing to hold a gun to Lady Liberty’s head in order to subvert the democratic process, but there was at least some question as to whether or not they’d actually be able to pull the trigger.  Now there is no doubt.  The GOP is willing to tank our economy if the Democrats don’t agree to scrap a law that passed fair and square.  Man, if we can hold the government (and America, and her citizens) hostage, what’s the point of voting things into law in the first place?

Anyway, John Boehner is still lying his ass off about our circumstances:

“I told the president, there’s no way we’re going to pass one. The votes are not in the House to pass a clean debt limit,” Boehner said. “And the President is risking default by not having a conversation with us.”

If there aren’t enough votes in the House to pass a clean debt limit then why won’t Boehner allow that vote to take place?  This is like a toddler standing in front of a closed closet door and telling their older brother “Your Playstation 3 isn’t in this closet.”

“Can I open the door and confirm that you’re correct?”


And as for trying to pin the responsibility for this on Obama, the President did converse with the GOP about the Affordable Care Act.  He compromised on it when he didn’t have to.  Then it passed into law in accordance with how our government is run.  You don’t get to force additional conversation (or action, which is what they really want) because you’re slowly torturing America and her citizens and counting on the Democrats to care more than you.

It’s not the President’s fault that the GOP won’t do it’s job and fund the government unless their opponents make unrelated concessions based not upon the merits of the decision, but just because they don’t want to let the GOP tank the economy.  Jesus Christ these people are evil.

About JT Eberhard

When not defending the planet from inevitable apocalypse at the rotting hands of the undead, JT is a writer and public speaker about atheism, gay rights, and more. He spent two and a half years with the Secular Student Alliance as their first high school organizer. During that time he built the SSA’s high school program and oversaw the development of groups nationwide. JT is also the co-founder of the popular Skepticon conference and served as the events lead organizer during its first three years.

  • Baby_Raptor

    Nevermind that the Democrats asked the Republicans 18 Fucking times to negotiate…Now that they need decent PR, they want to “negotiate,” and it’s Obama’s fault for not giving them everything they want.

    I think my Bearded Dragon could run the country better than these…beings.

    • baal

      I’m thinking BitterLizard could too.

  • Abram Larson

    I’m not a huge fan of the Democrats either, but in this situation, I have to admit the R’s (specifically Tea Baggers) are acting like bratty children. However, when a little under half the country is cheering them on, what does that say about us?

    • unbound55

      Therein lies the primary problem in this country. People want simple solutions to complex problems and don’t really want to understand the issues, the pros and cons of of the solutions, or to even care about the results. Of course simple solutions to complex problems are almost always the worst possible solution.

      How do you get them involved in difficult discussions when much of the population is scared to discuss basic realities like sex with their own children (which is why we have to do it in the public schools) or fiscal realities with their spouses / significant others?

      • Abram Larson

        Your post reminded me of an H.L. Mencken quote.

        “Explanations exist; they have existed for all time; there is always a well-known solution to every human problem — neat, plausible, and wrong.”

  • Pofarmer

    In accordance with how our govt works? Maybe. But to an awful lot of folks there was an awful lot of underhanded shennangans. The way this law was passed was anything but ordinary.

    • unbound55

      I’m confused. Are you saying that the ACA wasn’t passed by congress voting on it?

    • Kubricks_Rube

      You’re quite right. Republican committee members kept watering down a bill they had no intention of voting for and then pointed to their refusal to vote for it as proof it was a partisan bill! Coupled with the need to procure 60 Senate votes- a quite recent precedent- the underhanded shenanigans of the minority party were anything but ordinary. Well, by 2009 standards. Now they’ve sadly become par for the course.

    • RobMcCune

      The way this law was passed was anything but ordinary.

      You mean because the same morons threw the same kind of childish fit?

      • Pofarmer

        No, because the Democrats shoehorned it through a budget process, even though they hadn’t been able to pass a budget since 06, er, when , the democrats took over both houses.

        • unbound55

          A bill regarding housing tax breaks is hardly a budget process (HR 3590 was used to define the ACA at the time). Of course, you are ignoring the fact that it could have (and was threatened) to be filibustered at that time. There was actually negotiations and compromises (despite your implication that there was none) that prevented the filibuster.

          I have really bad news for your twisted world view, but the law passed on its own with full consideration of congress involved. It wasn’t snuck into a budget line-item or whatever other nonsense you are trying to spout.

          Considering your thoughts on how it got passed, I have more bad news for your twisted world view. The ACA is actually a Heritage Foundation plan (yep, conservative plan) that implements market-place principles. It should have been championed by the Republicans from the very beginning, but their attitude is simply anything anti-Obama, so, like petulant little children, they have to say nothing but bad things about it.

          Do yourself a favor and learn about what is going on around you. Democrats do indeed suck. Unfortunately, Republicans suck even more. I don’t advocate defending either…learn the truth of what is going on.

          • Pofarmer

            Afaik the heritage plan considered health care exchanges, not sure what else. I think the controversy comes in with mandating coverages, mandating, profit levels, mandating etc, etc, etc, and then not doing ANYTHING to cut health care costs, which is what this bill supposedly was about.

          • Gehennah

            They had to mandate coverage to protect the insurance companies.

            Since they could no longer deny you coverage due to preexisting conditions, they had to mandate coverage to keep people from picking up insurance for a few months to cover something and then immediately drop it, which would have pretty much bankrupted insurance companies.

          • Pofarmer

            I’m thinking more about mandating specific types of coverage and services.

  • Fred

    The House voted over 40 times on something that had no chance to pass in the Senate. Yet they’re still refusing to vote on something they claim will Fail?