Grove City College, my alma mater from which I graduated with a BA in Philosophy and a minor in Religion in 2000, is an Evangelical Christian college which ranks among America’s most religiously and politically conservative colleges. Princeton Review ranks Grove City among the “Best Northeastern Colleges” and among the 373 best colleges in the country overall. Of the students at those 373 colleges, Princeton ranks the students of Grove City as 8th most politically conservative, 9th most religious, 11th most “stone-cold sober”, 14th best at not doing marijuana, 7th most not drinking beer, and 6th in not drinking hard liquor.
Grove City ranks #3 for “Future Rotarians and Daughters of the American Revolution”, which is a category “based on a combination of survey questions concerning political persuasion, the use of marijuana and hallucinogens, the prevalence of religion, the popularity of student government, and the students’ level of acceptance of the gay community on campus.”
And, most relevant to today’s interview, Grove City College is ranked by Princeton Review as the single most “LBGT-Unfriendly” school among the 373 best colleges.
So, since I am personally a fierce supporter of the full ethical and legal dignity of gays, I was delighted recently to learn of the formation of a new gay/straight group on campus called “Rainbow Bridge”. (The campus has a popular bridge by the same name.) Recently, Grove City’s student newspaper The Collegian ran a somewhat lopsided article about the group’s first meeting (March 2, 2011), which focused more on the views of the group’s detractors than of its founders. I reached out to the group’s leader, senior Jesy Littlejohn, and she graciously agreed to an interview about who she is as a Christian, as a gay person, as a Grover, and as a gay Christian Grover, and what she hopes her group will offer to Grove City College.
What follows is our interview, unedited except for minor issues of style, grammar, spelling, and clarity. You can learn more about her group and offer your views on it by going to the Rainbow Bridge Facebook page.
Daniel Fincke: How long have you been a Christian and how did you come to be one?
Jesy Littlejohn: Well that’s a fun question. I was raised in a “church” of sorts called The Way International. I won’t bore you with the fundamentals of their beliefs, but we’ll say that they are a “we’re the truth and all other denominational churches are liars and heathens” kind of church. There were SO many contradictions in their teaching, things that weren’t even in the Bible and they would tell them as absolutes. Everything to them was absolute. Needless to say I didn’t really understand it, but I was forced into it. I believed in the whole Jesus/God bit, but other than that I didn’t understand a word of what was taught.
When I moved to PA in 2005, my parents couldn’t find a place that was a part of the Way so they stopped going, which wasn’t a problem to me. My Senior year of high school, things got really bad for me, and my friends could tell. One of them, Emily, said I should attend church with her.
First I would go to youth group, then Bible study, then a full service. She knew that my former church opposed any other church and I had never even stepped foot in another church, so she thought she’d ease me into the process. Long story short I loved it, and within a few months I converted to Methodism and really called myself a Christian. I changed my life completely, transferred out of Slippery Rock University after my first semester, and ended up at Grove City (where Emily also goes).
Daniel Fincke: So you specifically transferred to Grove City because it was a self-consciously evangelical Christian school then?
Jesy Littlejohn: Yes. I had applied to SRU December of my senior year, before becoming a Christian. It was an inexpensive school, and I knew nothing of the reputation of the college concerning religion (it didn’t matter then). When I became a Christian I invested myself in learning more about my choice of college and wasn’t pleased, nor were any of my new found Christian friends. Within a month of being there I was miserable, and held myself to a higher standard than most of the people there. I wanted to leave, I wanted to be in a Christian place to help foster the new scheme of beliefs I had. Grove City was right down the road and I knew people there. Plus it was “Authentically Christian”–could it have been more perfect? Nope, at least that’s what I thought.
Daniel Fincke: I see, so what do you mean when you say that becoming a Christian “changed your life completely” and involved “holding yourself to a higher standard”? What did this mean in practical terms?
Jesy Littlejohn: Well, in a lot of ways I looked at how I had been living, how my parents lived, how my classmates lived at SRU and I, honestly, looked down on them. I thought that I knew the answers. I looked at my parents’ religion and looked at mine and believed mine was better. I looked at the way my friends lived at SRU and knew I was more moral (I didn’t cheat, have sex, fool around, use profanity, engage in homosexual activity, etc). When I became a Christian I stopped listening to secular music, I spent most of my time reading the Bible instead of books for leisure, I spent most of my time at the church instead of anywhere else. I stopped watching offensive TV programs, and the like.
Everything I did was based on whether the church would approve. Still, even in all of that….I slipped. I wasn’t perfect, but I would read my bible or pray extra hard to make up for it. It cancelled it out in my opinion.
Daniel Fincke: Now, there are a lot of Christians at Grove City who would say that your embracing your homosexuality is a matter of “slipping” and not “holding yourself to a higher standard” or completely letting Christ change your life. What do you say to those sorts of challenges?
Jesy Littlejohn: I would say I used to be one of them. When I came to Grove City I thought life would be perfect. When I came out, to myself and a SMALL handful of others, life changed. My entire view of Scripture changed. I didn’t know what to believe or what to adhere to. I knew I wasn’t supposed to be gay, or at least that was what I was taught for as long as I could remember, so I prayed. I prayed God would make me straight, would put a man in my life. I prayed, my friends prayed, my mentors prayed. Nothing worked. Over the summer, and since initially coming out I realized that there ARE other views and interpretations of scripture. There is no absolute. Still it didn’t do anything to help me in my confusion.
But to answer your question, to the people who say I am slipping, or go as far to say I am not a Christian, I blatantly tell them they are wrong. It’s the whole Plank vs. Speck bit. They have no right to question my religious authenticity any more than I have the right question theirs. I pray, I study, I have a relationship with God that is my own. He and I are on the same page. If He wants me on a different path than I am, in some way He’ll make it known. I have been waiting for 3 years now, though, and I’ve not been told to deviate from where I am walking.
Daniel Fincke: Now you say you “came out to yourself” at Grove City. What does that mean exactly? How far back do you remember being attracted to girls and/or women and were you ever in relationships with boys and/or men, and if so how did you feel about them? How did you come to identity as gay? Would you have come out earlier if it weren’t for so much stigma against it?
Jesy Littlejohn: Well, for as long as I can remember I have been attracted/drawn to girls, before I even knew what being gay was. It just felt right to me. It didn’t take long though to understand that whatever it was I was feeling wasn’t supposed to be there. So I did everything in my power to push it down and not pay attention to it. It didn’t always work, but I tried nonetheless. My Freshman year at college, for whatever reason, I couldn’t push it down anymore. So I quietly and slowly admitted to myself that I was gay, that what was going on was real and not just a flippant curiosity.
I was in ‘relationships’, if you can call them that, with a boy. It was 5th grade though, so I don’t know how much it counts. He was my first kiss though. Honestly, though, I felt nothing. I liked the fact that I was kissing someone. It made me feel grown up, but other than that there were no sparks or anything. My Freshman year of high school that boy came out. The whole thing, looking back, is incredibly ironic!
Daniel Fincke: (laughing) See, he spread it to you! Or maybe you spread it to him…
Jesy Littlejohn: (laughing) It’s all fucked up in the end!
Daniel Fincke: (laughing)
Jesy Littlejohn: I don’t know if I would have come out earlier though. Just with the nature of my family and the culture I grew up in…it would have been too hard, too traumatizing. I think I came out when I was supposed to. I was putting myself up on a pedestal and I think I needed to be reminded that I wasn’t better than anyone, that I had issues I needed to confront. Retrospectively, I was a total bitch when I became a Christian. I was everything I can’t stand now. I think in the end, I needed to see myself for what I was doing, what I was. I am not saying being gay was the solution, but identifying it, not hiding, not being hypocritical anymore…that was the solution.
Daniel Fincke: But when you first came out it was in a “confessional” way, right? It was a matter of seeking help? What were those first conversations with Christian friends and mentors like? And did you come out to anyone who was either secular or at least not a “Grover” kind of fundamentalist Christian, and was that experience any different?
Jesy Littlejohn: Absolutely! I was scared shitless. I first thought I was going to hell and needed to change ASAP! I only told a few people, and it was basically a “what do I do!” A lot of those conversations consisted of “We’ll pray for you and with you” or “We can beat this” or “Here’s a link to this ministry, it might help you” or “It’s going to be okay. God loves you and will help you fix this”….On the other end of the spectrum, I have a friend, Stephanie (who for all purposes is my mother minus any biological relation), who is NOT a Christian, is completely gay-friendly, and honestly suspected my sexuality before I even told her (and she was the first person I told). She was all for exploring it, not hiding it, and being me. She understood my being a Christian and respected it. She was the one who initially told me that it was okay to be gay and a Christian.
She introduced me to a Pastor and his wife in Monroeville, who preached a gay-friendly message and reconciled the gay lifestyle and Christianity. They were awesome and awe inspiring. I loved them. They made me feel better about myself, like I wasn’t someone who needed to be fixed.
Still it was all very confusing. I almost lost my friend, Stephanie, in the process because I was still so wrapped up in my Christianity that I thought I had to purge myself of all things not Christian, that were encouraging my sexuality.
I realized in the end, though, that I couldn’t keep listening to everyone else’s views–for or against. I needed to make up my own mind, have my own one-on-one with God. I reconciled with Steph. I reconciled with my friends, and for a while my sexuality was a moot issue. I didn’t talk about it unless I wanted to. When people asked I was honest but other than that I didn’t concern anyone with it unless I was the one who initiated the conversation.
I made my sexuality my own.
Daniel Fincke: And did you develop friendships with a lot of other gay students at Grove City along this way? Did closeted students start seeking you out as word spread? Did out of the closet students? Were there some you tried to “kick the gayness” with and were there others who encouraged you to stay out?
Jesy Littlejohn: Honestly, I didn’t meet another gay student at GCC until this year. I was walking my girlfriend, Sara, to her car and was holding her hand. When she got in her car I gave her a kiss and said goodbye. It turns out that in the process of this brief exchange someone saw us. An hour or so later I got a message on Facebook from a Grover, who was gay and had seen Sara and I and was inquiring about my sexuality. From there things became a whirlwind. Suddenly people were coming out of the woodwork and were everywhere. People don’t think GCC has gay students, but they are VERY wrong! I have made friends since that first initial moment of being caught, but it hasn’t been an abundance. If anything Rainbow Bridge has been a huge help networking with people, and has opened up a lot of doors.
When I accepted my sexuality and entered into my relationship with Sara I lost a lot of friends. People said they could associate with me if I was struggling with my sexuality, but now that I am okay with it, good with it, and accept it, they can’t. Being with Sara just cemented that for them. It was in their face. I was no longer something they could fix, I wasn’t their project anymore. I was my own person and they didn’t have a say so anymore.
It’s been a very lonely year, a lonely end to my time at Grove City. But Rainbow Bridge has helped and been very encouraging in the process. I lost some friends, a lot of friends, but gained a whole new group. We aren’t super close, but I can go to them if I need them. And for the first time in the 4 years of being here, I don’t feel alone.
Daniel Fincke: This is exactly the problem with the attempt to try to love gays while hating homosexuality—it’s nearly impossible to love someone while hating their love relationships. And wishing them to be alone—romantically and sexually and emotionally unfulfilled, in perpetuity.
Jesy Littlejohn: EXACTLY!
Daniel Fincke: I mean, if there is a Christian who can consistently show up at your gay wedding, be like a mother or father to the kids which you mother with another woman, etc. and STILL hold the thought in their head “but of course this is all wrong”, then I guess that person could love gays but hate homosexuality. But it’s an absurd proposition. And how can you say you love someone whose wedding you’d refuse to attend? But, anyway…
Jesy Littlejohn: That’s what I have always wanted to know? The whole Love the Sinner, Hate the Sin concept is often lost on me.
Daniel Fincke: How did the situation last year involving John Gechter (a Grove City student who was earning his way through college by starring in pornographic gay films before being outed by a fellow student) affect the campus discussion of homosexuality and how, if at all, has it impacted positively or negatively your attempts to increase visibility, acceptance, and pride for gays on campus?
Jesy Littlejohn: Honestly, from what I know and heard people were upset by it and disgusted. At the same time though the conversation didn’t last long. Aside from the controversy that came from the topic of him being “kicked out” or “leaving voluntarily” there wasn’t a lot of hype around it. People were uncomfortable with the topic (one pornography, two gay pornography) and so it quietly and quickly disappeared.
Personally the only question I had was why did he want to be at Grove City? Not asking this from a judgmental view, but looking at myself and my experience I often ask myself the same question. Regardless whether he was gay, the fact that he was going against a “traditional” value of the school concerning pornography made me wonder if it was worth it to be at Grove City. He knew, according to the school, what he was doing was wrong so why stay, why put up with it, why not go to a school where you can get government aid?
I don’t personally think what he did was anyone’s business. He wasn’t doing drugs or selling them. He wasn’t engaging in illegal activity of any kind. He did what he knew to do to get the money he needed. Maybe there were other options, but maybe there weren’t. That’s his business. And personally, I’d like to talk to the person who outed him. Why was he on a gay porn site?
In terms of visibility or acceptance I don’t think it did anything to help or harm the gay population. Because it was pushed under the rug so quickly, there wasn’t a lot of time to make a big hype out of it. If anything the already cemented judgement or beliefs of those who opposed homosexuality were confirmed. Only this time, they were linked with gay porn.
Daniel Fincke: Do you still oppose premarital sex morally? Which, to be completely explicit, is not to ask whether you are yourself sexually active, which of course is against Grove City’s policies for gays and straights alike and which is enforced in both cases.
Jesy Littlejohn: Well, it’s none of my business what other people do. It would be nice to be able to wait, but at the same time if people don’t want to, it’s up to them, and between them and God. In terms of Gay Sex, some people don’t agree that it constitutes actual sex because it doesn’t involve “intercourse.” Personally, I think that’s bullshit. Gay people can fuck just as much as straight people can.
Am I sexually active? Yes. It was a decision that my girlfriend and I thought about A LOT. HOWEVER, we don’t disrespect the rules of GCC and engage in sex on campus. That is the violation. What we do off campus, in our room at home, is our business. We, however, have not let sex become the center of our relationship. We’ve been best friends for 2 years. There is SO much more to us than sex.
Does that make me a bad person? I don’t know. Does it make me a bad Grover? Probably, but I am gay, I am already a bad Grover.
Daniel Fincke: I certainly don’t think it makes you a bad person at all and I disagree with Grove City’s sexual restrictiveness in general. But what do you say to the Grove City student who says, “Look, I came to Grove City to be with other people who shared my own values and who reinforced them. There are plenty of other colleges where gays can be fully welcomed as openly out and where few will condemn you for having sex outside of marriage, why do you want to influence Grove City to change its absolute opposition to these things when that would mean overturning core, identity-forming values of the institution? Why not just transfer out?”
Jesy Littlejohn: Honestly I have asked myself that too. In seriousness though, it’s not just gay people who are engaging in sex outside of marriage there. There are many respectable Christians who have pulled down their pants and broken intervisitation rules. I used to be roommate with some of them. They cover it up and say “oh it was wrong” but then they do it again the next weekend.
I am honest about my sexuality. I am honest about my sex life. I don’t lie to people, or I try really hard not to. That’s a lot more than I can say for the majority of the campus. So what makes me the bad guy?
So I am gay? I don’t rub it in or try to force it on anyone? I don’t defame Jesus or other believers. I don’t try to “fix” their problems, if you can call them problems. I am equal to everyone on that campus. I have a right to be there.
There isn’t a no tolerance policy. Student Life hasn’t kicked me out yet, and they aren’t going to, nor any other gay student and they pride themselves on that ‘liberal’ stance. Maybe they keep me there to try to reform me; who knows? But the fact is, I am not wrong in being there. I am more authentic than most people there. I am just gay.
Daniel Fincke: So, then what do you hope to accomplish with the Rainbow Bridge group?
Jesy Littlejohn: Here’s the deal: Our group isn’t a recruiting station. We aren’t thinking of ways to bring a gay culture to Grove City College. We aren’t trying to convert anyone. That’s not our mission and it never has been. Furthermore, our mission, and this was stated clearly in the meeting, is not to bash Grove City College. Do we get frustrated sometimes? Yes. Everyone does. Do we make it available to talk about those frustrations in our meetings or on Facebook? Yes, but we aren’t here to say that Grove City College is a wretched institution, because that’s not what we believe
This group isn’t about whether homosexuality is right or wrong, because unfortunately I don’t believe as a body we will ever come to a consensus. The beauty is that people can disagree, it’s allowed. Not everyone in this group thinks the same way and that’s allowed. What we want is for LGBTQ students and straight students to peaceably coexist without secrets and without lies and without silence. This group is here to see that that can happen.
Straight people, conservative people, liberal people—anyone can come. I just ask that if they choose to they don’t come with the intent to try and convert anyone or spread an agenda or bring any hostility. This isn’t a gay vs. straight issue. It’s not a “we’re right, you’re wrong” issue. We want peace, civility and community. We want to coexist.It saddens me that people don’t want to come. We had people come to our meeting on Wednesday that don’t agree with homosexuality, but they were there because they were disheartened by the way LGBTQ people were treated on campus, the way they are perceived. They just want to be our friends, and that’s okay. We agree to disagree and it doesn’t get in the way of anything. If for some reason something were to come up that would put us on opposite sides of the spectrum, which I don’t see happening, but if it does, we will work through it.
We want to educate people about homosexuality, about the people on this campus who are gay. We want people to KNOW what homosexuality looks like up close and personal. People know what their church has told them, but they don’t know gay people. They have preconceived ideas but they don’t have truth.
We want people to know us…We’re normal. We’re not horrible people. We’re not trying to wreck Grove City. We’re trying to make it better. We respect the traditions, but sometimes tradition needs to be modified or adapted.
Will what we’re doing work? Maybe not right away, but we’re a force to be reckoned with. It’s easy to say no to 1 person, not as easy to say no to a group. I will include the mission of the group as stated on the FB page:
Since 1876 Grove City College has been notorious for its genuinely Christian stance and its rigorous academics. Recently, however, this very same institution has been labeled by the Princeton Review has the number 1 most intolerant school in the country.
As a Senior at GCC, as a gay Senior, I have had enough of feeling alone. I am tired of judgment. I am tired of isolation. I am tired of secrets. I am tried of people being chastised just for associating with others who are gay, for showing support, for being a friend.
People at Grove City are struggling…Struggling to be themselves. Struggling to have a voice. Struggling to figure out who they are. Struggling to figure out what they believe. Wouldn’t it be nice to be able to have a place, where regardless of whether you are gay, straight, or even just questioning you can feel safe to talk about how you feel, what’s bothering you, your joys and triumphs, and whatever else is rolling around in your noggin (and better yet to do so with your peers).
It’s been too long. But now is the time for change.
We as a body of believers, students, or sympathizers need to feel as genuine in our beliefs and in this institution as our mission statement calls us to. We need to be tolerant, and loving, and act in a way which we expect of others. We must be the change we wish to see in Grove City.
Rainbow Bridge is not only a place to reconcile the relationships between gay and straight students but it’s also a place that struggling people can come and find solace–a place that isn’t the counseling center or church or student life and learning. It’s a place among peers. It’s a place that they don’t have to feel alone. It’s a place to talk, or not talk. It’s just a place that hasn’t ever existed.
Daniel Fincke: How do you feel about the administration’s gesture by which they have stressed explicitly that you are allowed to meet, whether on campus or off, but that you can only be seen as a “non-college-affiliated” group? Is this an adequate compromise or unjust discrimination, and why? They say that your group’s goal is inconsistent with the college’s mission statement. Is it?
Jesy Littlejohn: I knew that they wouldn’t acknowledge us as an official group. I went in hoping, but knowing the reality. In the end though it still bothers me. It feels like we are being given a courtesy, a little pat on the end and a “be good.” We’re the black sheep of Grove City organizations. They don’t want to know us, but they are forced to. They just pretend we aren’t there. It sucks.
And as far as policy, there is nothing in the Crimson that says that I can’t be gay. Their “policy” is not what they are preaching to me. They are preaching their “authentically Christian” stance. What I want to know is what “Authentic Christian” denies someone’s existence because of their sexuality, because they are trying to do good? Tradition concerning homosexuality and the bible isn’t the same as it was in 1876. People grow, views change.
Daniel Fincke: In the school newspaper The Collegian, there was a critical quote from a student named Micah List who represented another group on campus, one for repentant gays, called “Less”. Have you thought of reaching out to him for any kind of formal detente or debate? How do you feel when you read Christian gays talking about, as List put it, finding “freedom in Christ” from homosexuality?
Jesy Littlejohn: The person who leads the group is actually one of the people who cut me off and stopped being my friend. I have talked to her about it, and she basically tells me I am wrong and disobedient. I think being gay isn’t a choice. I think how you act on it is. Micah chooses to suppress it, I don’t. I think, however, I am still free in Christ. I think going to a group like “Less” is another way to say that homosexuals need to be fixed, or cured. You want to know how I was fixed? I accepted myself.
Daniel Fincke: So, I take it that the purpose of your group is to create awareness first of all; to help the average Grover get to understand their unapologetically gay Christian friends, and to see you not as projects to change but people to understand. Do I have that right?
Jesy Littlejohn: Absolutely right!
Daniel Fincke: Now, would you like to be able to have actual open-ended explorations of the philosophical and theological issues in that safe space or do you fear that that would wreck it; i.e., that debate would be at cross purposes with the group’s goals?
Jesy Littlejohn: I think that because we’re in the minority it will turn into a blood bath. I like discussion, but debate isn’t my favorite. I don’t want to turn this into a “who’s wrong? who’s right?” issue. No one is ever going to agree on that. While I encourage civil discussion, I would rather focus my efforts and energy on reconciling the campus, the community, and not the theological dead ends that have gone on for ages.
Daniel Fincke: How many openly gay students are in the group so far, how many supportive straight students do you have, and how many more closeted gays do you know who secretly support you but are thus far too worried to come forward?
Jesy Littlejohn: Honestly, when we had the meeting on Wednesday last week there was an even split among the gay-straight attendance. I think our group, however, is made up of mainly straight people which is crazy surprising. What’s interesting is a lot of our membership is alumni, they are the majority actually. So as far as who is out and open and who’s not…that’s still up in the air.
Daniel Fincke: I know I speak for a lot of alumni when I say that it was a rush of joy and hope to see you start this group.
Jesy Littlejohn: I am glad to hear that.
Daniel Fincke: Can you characterize any of the negative psychological, social, intellectual, or emotional consequences that being closeted or that seeing your homosexuality as sinful have caused you or other Grovers which you don’t think the average Grove City student properly understands or empathizes with currently?
Jesy Littlejohn: To speak for myself personally: I am on Prozac. I go to counseling, both individual and group counseling. I have attempted suicide, and struggle with suicidal thoughts. I was a cutter, and still fight against that as well. Being closeted, being ostracized, being misunderstood, being discriminated against, it all takes its toll. SO many times I have wondered if coming out, forming this group, has been worth the backlash. In the end, I have enough people around me showing me what I can’t see to remind me of what I am doing, and how good it actually is. It’s a fight. Everyday is a fight, but I am willing (most days) to keep my gloves up.
Daniel Fincke: I’m so sorry to hear about so much of this struggle and so proud of you for enduring. I know you’re not the only Grover to struggle with suicidal thoughts over your homosexuality–one of my closest friends at Grove City did too, which is part of why I am so passionate in supporting what you do here.
Do you have any role models in the gay community, be they famous or not, who have meant a lot to you?
Jesy Littlejohn: Cheesy as it may be Ellen DeGeneres is on the top of my celeb list and Liesha Hailey (The L Word, Uh Huh Her). I also know some people through Stephanie that have been really great to me. Honestly I look at the people in our group, and the gay students at this school, and am so proud to be associated with them. I look up to them for coming out, and doing it in such a big way!
Daniel Fincke: Do you believe the Bible is the Word of God?
Jesy Littlejohn: Yes.
I also believe that Jesus didn’t say anything about homosexuality, and that separated from the time of the Old and New Testaments times have changed and so have interpretations.
Daniel Fincke: Interpretations have definitely changed and for the morally better in many cases, so I am grateful for that. But why think that a good God wrote a book that features so much misogyny and homophobia, even if “only in parts”? Isn’t it easier and more logical to take those morally bankrupt passages as evidence that the book is not divinely inspired?
Jesy Littlejohn: I ask myself that all the time. Honestly I do. My answer comes down to the following: If Heaven is real and so it God, when it comes to me facing Him I am going to ask “What the fuck was going on!? Because none of that seemed like the REAL you. Care to explain?”
Daniel Fincke: (laughing) Well, we’ll be there together with our Grove City degrees in hand saying we even went to Grove City College and never got a good answer on Earth!
Jesy Littlejohn: Seriously!!
Daniel Fincke: Okay, thanks so much for answering my questions, Jesy, is there anything else you’d like to add?
Jesy Littlejohn: Thanks for giving me and this group the time of day. It would be easy to walk away from Grove City and write it off. Thank you to you and the rest of the Alumni who have stuck up for us. We appreciate you and your efforts to help us. You are doing the real good in all of this. I applaud you.
Daniel Fincke: It’s an honor, thank you. I can never write off Grove City and I hope Grove City never writes me or any of its other alumni off. Our fates are inextricably bound together, so we must do our best to make peace with each other.
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