Jacobs: Gay People Want to Throw Us In Jail!

Jacobs: Gay People Want to Throw Us In Jail! October 6, 2011

Wingnuts Cindy Jacobs and Michael Brown say that part of the gay agenda is wanting to throw Christians in jail:

Brown: Here it is in a nutshell: the activists who came out of the closet about forty years ago first said “we demand our rights.” Then they began to point to others and said “you have to accept our rights.” Then they began to point to conservatives, especially conservative Christians, and said “we’re taking away your rights.” And next thing, they want to put us in the closet.

Cindy Jacobs: Or in jail.

Brown: Or in jail. In fact an attorney friend of mine said “cycle it once more: it’s not just they came out of the closet and want to put us in the closet; they were put in jail, they want to put us in jail.”

Can you name a single gay rights activist who wants Christians thrown in jail? I can’t. I can name lots and lots of Christians that still want gay people thrown in jail. That’s the position of Bryan Fischer and the Family Research Council. It’s the position of more than one state Republican party. They screamed holy hell when the Supreme Court struck down sodomy laws. This martyr complex is the exact opposite of reality.

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  • heironymous

    It’s the same as fascists calling liberals “Nazi”s. There must be a figure of speech for accusing your opponent of something you do to preempt the position. Like when far right wingers refer to liberals as Nazis.

  • Chiroptera

    Here it is in a nutshell: the activists who came out of the closet about forty years ago first said “we demand our rights.” Then they began to point to others and said “you have to accept our rights.”

    Um, yeah, that’s kind of what it means to demand rights. It means a demand that appropriate legislation is passed (or that basic Constitutional principles are recognized by the state) and that everyone else must then obey the law.

    How else is this supposed to work?

  • dingojack

    Oh Cindi is just salivating, imagining all that hawt girl-on-girl martyrdom action, as seen in ‘Cellblock H’ (or some such nonsense) – Dingo

  • d cwilson

    Can you name a single gay rights activist who wants Christians thrown in jail?

    Cycle it back to their previous step. Can you name a single gay rights activist who has threatened to take away rights from conservatives Christians? Which rights? The right to treat others like second-class citizens?

  • Of course, if Christians violate the rights of gay people and then try to hide behind “religious freedom”, they very well might end up in jail. And there would be nothing wrong with that.

  • Which rights? The right to treat others like second-class citizens?

    The right to discriminate, yes.

  • raven

    Cindy Jacobs!!!

    I thought that name was familiar. She has a reputation as a fundie xian scammer, a Benny Hinn wannabe faith healer. She’s also a xian Dominionist who openly hates the USA and its democracy and a good friend of…Rick Perry, Texas wingnut governor and possible future US president.

    As a New Apostolic Reformation crazy, she might claim to have magic powers given to her by the gods. I’ll have to check on that one but super powers is a common claim of theirs.

    Probably she would say anthing and claim anything if it made her a few US dollars.

    Odd factoid. According to Wikipedia, she used to write for the Batman TV show. LOL

  • dingojack

    Raven – and can you imagine anything more camp than the ’60’s TV version of Batman?

    KAPOWW!!! BLAMMO!!! THWOCK!!! – Dingo

  • dafydd

    Maybe that’s the problem? She ODed on camp back in the Sixties and just can’t handle it any more?

  • raven

    wikipedia:

    The New Apostolic Reformation is a movement in Protestant Christianity largely associated with the Pentecostal and Charismatic movements. The basic thesis asserts that

    God is restoring the lost offices of church governance, namely the offices of Prophet and Apostle.

    FYI. Anyone wanting some superpowers could join the New Apostolic Reformation.

    The choice does seem to be a bit limited though. Apostle or Prophet. I’d go with Profit myself. You could do well in Las Vegas, the stock markets, and sports betting.

    It’s not stated but the other superpowers seem to be babbling like a loon, hating everybody else, appearing brain dead, and repulsing most of the human race.

  • MikeMa

    For these asswipes, not being able to force another to do your bidding is worse than jail. Maybe.

  • Pierce R. Butler

    I’m not a “gay rights activist” (except insofar as a progressive activist supporting local projects including those by/for gays can claim that status), but I can think of lots and lots of Christians I want to see behind bars.

    F’rinstance, name a major US war criminal who is not a Christian…

  • timberwoof

    Fundagelicals are well-known (to me, anyway) for projecting onto us the very things they wish to do to us. For example, the business about recruiting kids comes from their own practice of recruiting: in Colorado Springs, one church set up a school bus (a school bus!) with a wading pool. They’d lure kids in with candy, get them into the pool, and baptize them.

    The claim about liberal reeducation camps comes from their own Christian reeducation camps.

    So this claim that we want to put them in jail is not entirely surprising, and I should even have predicted it.

  • Hercules Grytpype-Thynne

    There must be a figure of speech for accusing your opponent of something you do to preempt the position. Like when far right wingers refer to liberals as Nazis.

    The adjective would be “Rovian”, since Karl Rove is probably the best-known practitioner of this kind of behavior. Don’t know what the noun would be: “Rovianism”? “Rovism”? “Roving”?

  • MikeMa

    @Hercules Grytpype-Thynne

    Don’t know what the noun would be (of Rovian)

    A lie? Lying?

  • scifi1

    @dafydd

    I think she probably popped a tab at uni and is still trippin’.

  • wheatdogg

    Then they began to point to conservatives, especially conservative Christians, and said “we’re taking away your rights.”

    Exactly which rights are we talking about here? Christians can marry anyone they like, as long as they’re of age and (presumably) the opposite gender. Christians can buy houses together and live in them, even if they are not married. AFAIK, Christians can keep their jobs if they come out of the closet, so to speak. Christians could openly enlist in the military, run for political office (or run away from, in the case of Sarah Palin), hold down teaching jobs, and even get on reality TV.

    Or does giving one group rights somehow remove rights from another group, like some kind of zero-sum game?

  • dingojack

    Strangely, authoritarians often do tend to see the world as being a zero sum game. Perhaps it’s a form of rationalisation for their selfish impulses, or for their masochism toward superiors and sadism toward inferiors in the ‘pecking order’? – Dingo

  • I guess people like Cindy are still not getting the memo that was sent out by progressive some time back.

    Cindy for your edumification.

    “It’s okay if you act like an asshole. In fact we’d prefer that you do, it makes it easier to keep track of you. It’s just NOT okay to try and make other folks live by your assholistic notions of what’s right and wrong.”

    Cut and paste this and put in on your refrigerator or on oneathem laminated bookmarks for your Wholly Babble.

    You’re welcome.

  • =8)-DX

    Hmm, that’s like Christians accusing liberals or atheists of “indoctrinating children!”. as if they ever had qualms about that.