Herman Cain: You Could Have Stopped There

Herman Cain: You Could Have Stopped There October 13, 2011

This statement from Herman Cain cracks me up, not for the claim that if you aren’t rich you have only yourself to blame — try telling that to a Kennedy or a Koch brother — but for the way the sentence started:

“I don’t have facts to back this up, but I happen to believe that these demonstrations are planned and orchestrated to distract from the failed policies of the Obama administration,” Cain said Wednesday to the Associated Press during a book signing event. “Don’t blame Wall Street, don’t blame the big banks, if you don’t have a job and you’re not rich, blame yourself!”

He should really start every sentence with the phrase “I don’t have the facts to back this up.” Then we should ignore everything else he says. Hell, that should be his campaign slogan.


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  • fifthdentist

    I interviewed this loon when he ran for U.S. Senate in Georgia. His schtick back then was the flat tax. He couldn’t answer even elementary questions about it. He had his talking points about “eliminating the IRS” and nothing else beyond that. Sadly, the winning candidate in that election, Johnny Isakson, is the best we could even think about getting elected in this state. Isakson was considered a RINO as he racked up an impressive list of primary losses for governor and Senate before finally winning in a weak field.

  • Randomfactor

    He also seems to think that Obama isn’t black enough, and any blacks who vote for Obama over him are practicing racism.

    And what’s with the “999” crap? Is he trying to say he’s half-again as evil as the Beast?

  • JustaTech

    “I don’t have the facts to back this up” should be the new “Not intended as a factual statement”.

  • Randomfactor

    Just read elsewhere that Cain’s response to how the poor could afford his proposed 9% sales tax on food is that they could “buy used.”

  • “And what’s with the “999″ crap? Is he trying to say he’s half-again as evil as the Beast?”

    Perhaps he’s the Beast hanging upside down.

  • muzakbox

    There is a twitter hashtag based on this promoted by the daily show. #Idonthavefactstobackthisup

  • anarchicteapot

    Is this clown the current favourite? America, what have you done with your senses?

    Let’s see: anti-abortion, period. “He accuses Planned Parenthood of being fundamentally racist and points to the fact that 75% of their organizations are located in black communities.” (No shit, Sherlock. Poverty would have nothing to do with it)

    Thinks homosexuality is a choice and a sin, would reinstate DADT…

    Simple arithmetic #Fail

    Though after a resounding victory in the Florida Straw Poll where my 37 percent was more than double the combined 29 percent for my friends Mitt Romney and Rick Perry

    Wants to reduce taxes on businesses and tax more low-income families.

    Ah, another “drill baby drill” kook, too.

    And of course, a godbotherer.

  • anarchicteapot

    @richardelguru 9-9-9 is what you call in the UK in the case of an emergency.

    Alternatively, it’s what the German au pair says every night.

  • scienceavenger

    “I don’t have facts to back am making this up”

    Fixed it for you.

  • DaveL

    Just read elsewhere that Cain’s response to how the poor could afford his proposed 9% sales tax on food is that they could “buy used.”

    Herman Cain to Poor: “Eat Shit.”

  • LightningRose

    Says the man who made much of his wealth on the backs of minimum wage workers.

  • D. C. Sessions

    Apparently that little sound bite is a very popular ringtone.

  • Michael Heath

    fifthdentist:

    I interviewed this loon when he ran for U.S. Senate in Georgia. His schtick back then was the flat tax. He couldn’t answer even elementary questions about it.

    When Michael Huckabee ran in the ’08 election he was interviewed by then host Tim Russert on Meet the Press. While Mr. Russert was clearly clueless regarding the economic arguments supportive of a consumption/VAT tax and attempted only to trash the Fairtax in a most ignorant, biased way, Mr. Huckabee also revealed his complete cluelessness. So you had one ideological idiot in Mr. Russert trying to make a conservative look evil while the conservative revealed himself as just another garden variety ignoramus looking for a marketing niche without even attempting to bone-up on the sales pitch beyond the shallowest of talking points. A revelatory moment in how the media and politicians both suck. I find Herman Cain even more ignorant than Mr. Huckabee.

    To his credit Mr. Russert’s replacement David Gregory boned-up on the economically-literate arguments on recessionary economics and mostly did a fine job challenging both Democrats and Republicans in early-2009 when the stimulus bill was being debated. Not as good as Fareed Zakaria who destroys his field of peers, but better than I expected.

  • Michael Heath

    Here’s Mr. Cain’s entire 999 plan: http://www.hermancain.com/999plan.

    H/T – Andrew Sullivan posted it earlier today.

  • JustaTech @3 beat me to it. Herman Cain’s words were obviously not intended as factual statements.

  • Doc Bill

    I blame the interviewer for not following up with

    “Mr. Cain, if you don’t have the facts to back your statement up, then your statement is just your personal opinion and is meaningless. Why are you wasting my time with this childish nonsense?”

    It says a lot about polls that this blithering idiot is the GOP “leader” or maybe it says more about the GOP.

  • freemage

    I followed Mr. Heath’s link to the 9-9-9 site. It’s astoundingly illiterate and poorly designed. I can tell Mr. Cain is an American businessman; his randomly bulleted non-bullet-points are classic signs of someone who doesn’t get how to use PowerPoint, but thinks he does.

  • bahrfeldt

    Thanks for the link, from the quick glance at Hermie’s description of 999.

    Specifies no Social Security at all. The war on the elderly escalates.

    Specifies no company deduction for employee’s wages (outside of “empowerment zones”), but yes for dividends to owners. Of course you still pay tax on your wages, isn’t that double taxation? Wanna bet many of us will find ourselves working for dividends.

    Specifies no capital gains tax. So the frauds who pretend their income is capital gains pay no tax at all instead of a reduced rate.

    Specifies no individual tax deductions except “Charitable”. Can you see more churches sprouting up in people’s basements. (Oh yeah, are we keeping the current definition of charities?) Any family making under (my guesstimate) $70,000 will pay more under 9% of gross. Make much less, pay much more.

    He claims that his plan “Provides the least incentive to evade taxes and the fewest opportunities to do so”. Bullshit. A 9% incentive is plenty, just ask those who maintain a part time home in a lower tax state to save a third of that amount. (Okay, don’t ask, they won’t tell.) Or, just do a “Jo the Plumber” and never report (some or all of) your income. And if the employer cannot deduct the wages, have them work “off the books” (fully or partially, it’s being done now.)

    999= 666= The Sign of the Pizza

  • timberwoof

    Zero capital gains tax? Well, then, fuck payroll; pay me in stock!

    Oh. “It ends the Payroll Tax completely – a permanent holiday!”

    But wait a moment. I sense a contradiction.

    “Individual Flat Tax – 9%.” Except for charitable deductions (which means that churches are still legally sanctioned scams) and some Empowerment Zones … which mean what, exactly? Neighborhood where friends of political appointees live?

    The guy is a dumbass. The problem is, this will appwal mightily to all the Libertarian dumbasses.

    To me, “999” screams “Nein, Nein, um Gotteswillens Nein!”

  • BobApril

    “…I happen to believe that these demonstrations are planned and orchestrated to distract from the failed policies of the Obama administration…”

    Classic projection? As a reasonably credible threat for the GOP nomination, he probably knows who funded the “grass roots” Tea Party movement. It’s probably hard for him to imagine that such protests might actually arise spontaneously.

  • Who Knows?

    Timberwolf, it works out perfectly. The payroll tax Cain is talking about is the tax that employers pay out of their funds for employing a worker. Not income tax or the payroll tax that comes out of your wages.

    Then of course, the people who make real money aren’t paid in wages and their taxes are just eliminated.

  • walton

    @richardelguru 9-9-9 is what you call in the UK in the case of an emergency.

    Alternatively, it’s what the German au pair says every night.

    If this “joke” is an allusion to rape and/or violence towards said au pair, it is not funny. Seriously.

  • Shawn Smith

    anarchicteapot,

    Is this clown the current favourite? America, what have you done with your senses?

    We do it mainly to see the look on the rest of the world’s face when they realize that absolutely insane people have or could get control of many hundreds of nuclear warheads with the ability to deliver them anywhere on the planet with less than one day’s notice. It makes living in this world so much more interesting.

  • The United States has a two party system: Corporate Sellouts and Batshit Crazy Corporate Shills.

  • Michael Heath:

    I think you’re correct about Huckababble and Markdown Cain, but Tim Russert was what? a liberal? His politics were not in evidence the few times I was forced by circumstance to be in the same room as a television with his program being shown. He served a higher master, his paymaster.

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  • The only good part of this 9-9-9 plan is that every time I hear about it I get this song stuck in my head http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1bimNMiz250

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  • dingojack

    Noadi – completely talentless wankers?

    Why would that remind you Marko Cain? Oh wait, now I see what you’re getting at…

    😉 Dingo