Wingnut: Abortion Providers Are Drug Addicts, Abusers

Wingnut: Abortion Providers Are Drug Addicts, Abusers November 2, 2011

Troy Newman of Operation Rescue was on the Janet Mefferd show recently and made an outlandish and totally unsupported claim that those who run family planning clinics are just feeding their drug, sex and abusive habits. Right Wing Watch has the transcript:

Mefferd: When you talk about these clinics, and we’ve seen this so many times before, that these abortion clinics are just gross, they’re dirty, they’re poorly maintained, why do you think that is? I mean, they seem to have enough money coming in from abortions to be able to get some Clorox, why are they so gross?

Newman: Well, there’s a number of reasons. First of all, there’s really no pride of ownership there. It’s an abortion facility and often times the abortionist takes every drop of money that he can get out of that to feed sometimes his drug addiction habit, his sexual abuse habit, or any other number of worldly habits that they got themselves into, often times gambling, and it just takes every dollar out of it. But again, you can’t practice vice, with virtue. We look at it through the prism of a Christian worldview and we think, why not take care of your facility? But this is truly a demonic enterprise.

He doesn’t even attempt to offer any evidence for this assertion. Of course, he doesn’t have to with the people who would take him seriously. I know that the plural of anecdote is not data, but I’ve known lots of people who worked in and volunteered at such clinics. To a person, they are dedicated, caring and committed to caring for the needs of women, often on a shoestring budget.

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  • MikeMa

    And to add to Ed’s anecdotal data, the folks I know who volunteer face danger from jesusloons every day to help strangers in need.

    If these places didn’t have to spend so much for security, they might be able to provide more and better service. I do not believe the ‘filthy’ part of the story but old tattered furniture out front is very likely.

  • Captain Mike

    I’m going to ignore the rest of the stupid to concentrate on this …

    But again, you can’t practice vice, with virtue.

    … which apparently means that you can’t keep your place of work clean if the enterprise isn’t Godly. Someone needs to take this fellow to some of the big casinos in Las Vegas. “Sin” of various sorts are the only reasons they’re open in the first place, and yet they’re always sparkling.

  • davidct

    The mentality it to add to the idea that a significant number of abortions are late term with bloody body parts and other gore. It is the image that Ron Paul puts forward when he explains his antiabortion stance. The reality is so much less bloody that it does not serve to shock. Of course when “saving lives” lying is the lesser evil to these fanatics.

    With the world at 7 billion and declining resources, just how much value will these extra lives have. It is already clear the those in the third world are distinctly less precious.

  • dochopper

    Ed you are right on with your point.

    “He doesn’t even attempt to offer any evidence for this assertion. Of course, he doesn’t have to with the people who would take him seriously.”

    This has become a living breathing part of the American way of of life.

    The “RUSH” has made a fortune off of this crafting whole lines of false history out of thin air.

    Sadly this THINK IT INTO REALITY mentality has gained believers in in the real BUSINESS world.

  • greg1466

    “…takes every drop of money that he can get out of that to feed sometimes his drug addiction habit, his sexual abuse habit, or any other number of worldly habits that they got themselves into, often times gambling, and it just takes every dollar out of it.” Funny, sounds like a pretty good description of a priest to me…

  • @Captain Mike: but in that case, the devil is tempting you with superficial splendor.

    You know, like those mega-churches do.

    Hey, if you have a belief that can never be shown to be wrong, you don’t need to be consistent anymore either.

  • lofgren

    I mean, they seem to have enough money coming in from abortions to be able to get some Clorox, why are they so gross?

    I’m not willing to just take their word for it that these clinics are “gross” or “poorly maintained” to begin with, but even if we assume that the clinics are actually unsanitary I’m pretty sure they don’t make much money from abortions.

    First of all, there’s really no pride of ownership there.

    This seems to suggest that an “abortionist” (in scare quotes since I highly doubt there are any doctors who are just abortionists, rather than doctors with other specialties who also perform abortions) wholly owns and runs his own clinic where he can just do whatever he pleases, for example using profits from his abortions to buy drugs, without any interference from the IRS or the medical licensing board or sanction from some other professional organization or watchdog group. If the clinics were legitimately unsanitary, and their owners and primary medical service providers legitimately corrupt, you can bet that somebody would have used that to get the place shut down. The Christians would not be outside chanting, they would be organizing massive law suits on behalf of the victims who died from preventable infections following their procedure. Normally I don’t buy statements like “If you really believed X you would act like Y,” but in this case if Newman is aware of a dangerous or corrupt abortion clinic he would have a moral obligation to shut the place down by any legals means possible by his own standard.

  • Dennis N

    If these places didn’t have to spend so much for security, they might be able to provide more and better service.

    The extreme anti-choicers consider that a sign of success, with their ultimate goal being dirty back alley abortions or the Handmaid’s Tale.

  • jameshanley

    which apparently means that you can’t keep your place of work clean if the enterprise isn’t Godly.

    Not that I’ve ever been in one, but I’d bet a high-class whorehouse is kept shiny clean, too.

  • “we’ve seen this so many times before, that these abortion clinics are just gross, they’re dirty, they’re poorly maintained…”

    He’s seen it where? Name one place. Show pix. Give proof. Why isn’t Breitbart doing an expose?

    Obviously honest is not among Mefferd’s Christian values.

  • @ jameshanley

    Maybe you should write David Vitter about that. I’m sure he could confirm your suspicions if true.

  • Hercules Grytpype-Thynne

    We look at it through the prism of a Christian worldview and we think, why not take care of your facility?

    So how come so many of those with a “Christian worldview” don’t want to deal with global climate change?

  • freemage

    “we’ve seen this so many times before, that these abortion clinics are just gross, they’re dirty, they’re poorly maintained…”

    He’s seen it where? Name one place. Show pix. Give proof. Why isn’t Breitbart doing an expose?

    Obviously honest is not among Mefferd’s Christian values.

    Unfortunately, “Name one” isn’t a difficult challenge, anymore. Dr. Kermit Gosnell was operating a largely unregulated clinic in Philadelphia, with a second one he worked at in Delaware. Both were abysmal pits of filth, and resulted in the deaths of 2 women and several children.

    Of course, if the two states in question had just treated abortion clinics like any other medical facility, with basic inspections for cleanliness and care, things never would’ve reached that point. And if they hadn’t created such a furor over late-term abortions, women seeking one wouldn’t have had to choose between not getting the procedure done, or having it done in a facility staffed by teenagers with blood on the floor and cats running around inside the operating room. That these women didn’t turn around and run away screaming the moment they saw the place indicates just how deep the lie that these abortions are performed casually as a means of birth control really is.

  • raven

    On September 11, 2006, the IRS revoked Operation Rescue West’s 501(c)(3) nonprofit, tax-exempt status.[5] Newman’s organization now operates under the name “Operation Rescue.”

    Troy Newman is just a xian terrorist supporter.

    He’s also been in trouble with the law and lost his nonprofit status. That is hard to do, the IRS is very lax about xian organizations.

    Don’t know why, but usually it is because the nonprofit organization is spending all their donations on high salaries and high living for the people who run them. In other words, they are little better than scams.

  • raven

    Cheryl SullengerFrom Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaJump to: navigation, search

    Cheryl Deann Sullenger (born 1955) is an American pro-life activist and convicted federal felon.

    Sullenger and her husband, Randall, both pled guilty in 1988 to conspiring to blow up the Alavarado Medical Center abortion clinic with a gasoline bomb [1] She served two years in U.S. federal prison. After her release in 1990[2], she relocated her anti-abortion activities from California to Kansas.

    Cheryl sullenger is a convicted xian terrorist. She is also the senior policy advisor to Newman’s Operation Rescue.

    She has also been linked to Scott Roeder, another xian terrorist who assassinated Dr. George Tiller.

  • sceptinurse

    Cleanliness is next to godliness?

    I worked in a Catholic hospital (I know, they aren’t “true christians”) that was filthy. They didn’t even terminally clean their operating rooms every night. I realize this is largely a result of cutting costs. They outsourced everything that could be outsourced. All of their housekeeping staff had to resign and be employed by the other company, at lower pay and with lousy benefits, I can see why none of them would even want to do a good job.

    This hospital has recently laid off quite a few workers, some of them nurses, but seems to have enough money to launch what has to be an extremely expensive ad campaign. Their ads pop up on the internet (those obnoxious ones that are just there and you can’t find the skip button for), and I’ve heard them on the radio. I’m sure if I watched TV I would see them there as well. Most annoying are the billboards everywhere. I realize they need to get new patients in there, but they are doing it at the expense of patient care and safety.

    Compared to other facilities I’ve worked in this is atrocious. And yet it is a christian organization and so should understand that “pride of ownership” that apparently only they are capable of.

  • Aquaria

    Mefferd: When you talk about these clinics, and we’ve seen this so many times before, that these abortion clinics are just gross, they’re dirty, they’re poorly maintained, why do you think that is?

    Uh huh. When have you ever set foot in one before one of you scumbags bombed it or shot people in one. How neat do you think those places can be after you lot are done with them?

    I know that the plural of anecdote is not data, but I’ve known lots of people who worked in and volunteered at such clinics. To a person, they are dedicated, caring and committed to caring for the needs of women, often on a shoestring budget.

    Thank you. I was a volunteer at one of the clinics in Dallas who brought juice and cookies to the recovering patients, held hands and listened and comforted.

    Our clinic was spotless, day in day out, inside and out. We had a constant cleaning staff on hand. Abortion is messy–there’s no getting around that, but that’s why we had them there. People are stressed enough when they’re at an abortion clinic. They don’t need to be freaking about the cleanliness, too!

  • twincats

    After I separated from the USAF in 1987, Planned Parenthood was my only health care provider until I landed a job with benefits in 1990. I went every six months for my pap and oral birth control and every facility I went to was as clean as any other clinic I’d ever been in.

    Of course, this was in CA before the fundies made escorts necessary.

    But yeah, still anecdotal even though I went (once) to a dentist whose facilities were more than a bit scary during that same period.