Catholic Bishop: Obama Just Like Stalin, Hitler

Catholic Bishop: Obama Just Like Stalin, Hitler April 19, 2012

The Catholic bishop from Peoria, Illinois, Daniel Jenky, gave a sermon last Sunday in which he compared President Obama to Hitler and Stalin and claimed that Christians were the victims of persecution. Right Wing Watch has the transcript and the audio.

For 2,000 years the enemies of Christ have certainly tried their best. But think about it. The Church survived and even flourished during centuries of terrible persecution, during the days of the Roman Empire.

The Church survived barbarian invasions. The Church survived wave after wave of Jihads. The Church survived the age of revolution. The Church survived Nazism and Communism. And in the power of the resurrection, the Church will survive the hatred of Hollywood, the malice of the media, and the mendacious wickedness of the abortion industry.

The Church will survive the entrenched corruption and sheer incompetence of our Illinois state government, and even the calculated disdain of the President of the United States, his appointed bureaucrats in HHS, and of the current majority of the federal Senate.

May God have mercy especially on the souls of those politicians who pretend to be Catholic in church, but in their public lives, rather like Judas Iscariot, betray Jesus Christ by how they vote and how they willingly cooperate with intrinsic evil.

As Christians we must love our enemies and pray for those who persecute us, but as Christians we must also stand up for what we believe and be ready to fight to defend our faith. The days in which we live now require heroic Catholicism, not casual Catholicism. We can no longer be Catholics by accident, but instead be Catholics by conviction.

In our own families, in our parishes, where we live and where we work – like that very first apostolic generation – we must be bold witnesses to the Lordship of Jesus Christ. We must be a fearless army of Catholic men, ready to give everything we have for the Lord, who gave everything for our salvation.

Remember that in past history other governments have tried to force Christians to huddle and hide only within the confines of their churches like those first disciples before the Resurrection locked together in the Upper Room.

In the late 19th century, Bismark waged his “Kulturkamf,” a culture war against the Roman Catholic Church, closing down every Catholic school and hospital, convent and monastery in Imperial Germany. Clemenceau, nicknamed “the priest eater,” tried the same thing in France in the first decade of the 20th Century.

Hitler and Stalin, at their better moments, would just barely tolerate some churches remaining open, but would not tolerate any competition with the state in education, social services, and health care.

In clear violation of our First Amendment rights, President Obama – with his radical, pro-abortion and extreme secularist agenda, now seems intent on following a similar path.

Now things have come to such a pass in our beloved country that this is a battle that we could lose, but before the awesome judgement seat of Almighty God this is not a war where any believing Catholic may remain neutral.

I love the fact that he casts Christians, and the Catholic Church specifically, in the role of the persecuted minority. You’d think that a leader in a church with a long history of pogroms and inquisitions would be a tad bit more embarrassed by reality than to try that ploy.


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  • The Amazing Rando

    Well the Catholic Church would be an expert on Hitler level evil. The Pope was a member of the Hitler Youth, so they should have a good idea of the evil of the Nazi Party.

  • steve oberski

    Hitler and Stalin, at their better moments, would just barely tolerate some churches remaining open, but would not tolerate any competition with the state in education, social services, and health care.

    Hitler and Stalin would not tolerate any competition at all.

    Which is why the catholic church did deals with every fascist regime of the day, Italian, German and Spanish.

    And Stalin revived the Russian Orthodox Church during WW II in return for their support of the war effort.

  • dingojack

    The Church survived Nazism and Communism“.

    Mainly through capitulating to their totalitarian brethren.

    Dingo

  • raven

    The Catholic church hasn’t been able to get many sane and intelligent priests for a long time. Very few want to be life long (supposed) virgins with no girl (or boy)friends, wives, or family.

    It’s starting to show.

    Even the hierarchy come across as twisted and none too bright old men these days.

    I’m not sure this is even legal. IIRC, the tax exemption of the churches is predicated on the basis that they don’t endorse political candidates.

    Then again, when have the churches or the priests ever worried about the law, morality, or ethics?

  • Skip White

    Interesting that he doesn’t bring up the child sex abuse scandals of the last decade. It should’ve been easy for him to pin that on secular Marxist liberals who hate the constitution and baby Jesus. Maybe he just wasn’t trying hard enough?

  • raven

    BTW, Bishop Jenky, Hitler and half the Nazis were…Catholics. You would be more correct comparing the Pope, also a German Catholic and Hitler youth member to Hitler.

    The RCC played an important role in the rise of the Nazis. They signed a deal with them in 1933, the Reichskonkordat, that granted privileges to the Catholic church in return for them not involving themselves in politics. This was negotiated by Pacelli, who soon became Pope Pius XII.

    Oddly enough, the Reichskondordat is still in effect in Germany.

    Read Hitler’s Pope by a Catholic historian, Cornwell.

  • I really hate the claim that the pope was a Nazi. Everyone was automatically inducted into the Hitler Youth at a certain age. That doesn’t make him a Nazi. There are so many perfectly valid reasons to criticize the guy, there’s no need to use that nonsense.

  • dingojack

    I’m not sure this is even legal. IIRC, the tax exemption of the churches is predicated on the basis that they don’t endorse political candidates“.

    And who made sure of this cozy alliance between the Italian church and state?

    Oh that’s right Benito Amilcare Andrea Mussolini the Fascist known as: ‘Il Duce’.

    Next argument!

    Dingo

  • All of this over the fact that women are people and should be treated like people. Fuck the RCC.

  • raven

    All of this over the fact that women are people and should be treated like people. Fuck the RCC.

    QFT.

    I feel like leaving the RCC and I’ve never even been a member.

    OTOH, as a former Protestant, at least my distant in time coreligionists managed to slow them down during the Reformation Wars.

  • Remember that in past history other governments have tried to force Christians to huddle and hide only within the confines of their churches like those first disciples before the Resurrection locked together in the Upper Room.

    In the late 19th century, Bismark waged his “Kulturkamf,” a culture war against the Roman Catholic Church…

    Let’s put aside the misspellings of both Bismarck and Kulturkampf, which don’t bode well for his historical understanding…

    This is the classic case of conflating “Christian” and “Catholic” in one breath and then invoking anti-Catholic behavior as if it were anti-Christian in the next. It’s blatant intellectual dishonesty. In reality, the Kulturkampf was a matter of Protestants persecuting Catholics, in an attempt to turn Prussia into a monolithically Protestant state, as the Catholics had done to the Protestants on many occasions elsewhere. This was not the government attacking “Christians”, it was Christians attacking other Christians with government support.

  • The Lorax

    Fewer and fewer people require that whole “god” hypothesis in their daily lives. The worst enemy of faith isn’t Obama or evolution or even science; it’s reality, and reality is nothing if not persistent.

    We just give credit to science because it brings reality into everyone’s lives~

    But don’t shoot the messenger. Reality is the real enemy of faith.

  • scienceavenger

    This whole discussion is stupid on a very basic level: Obama isn’t just like Hitler and Stalin because Hitler wasn’t just like Stalin. Just ask Stalin.

  • Alverant

    Since when is not getting special rights or being told you have to follow the same rules as everyone else a violation of freedom of religion?

    And let’s not forget that Hitler got most of his bad ideas from a catholic known as Martin Luther.

  • busterggi

    Mullah Jenky’s remarks are exactly why Shariah law must not be allowed in the US.

  • slc1

    Re Alverant @ #14

    It is my information that Luther’s antisemitism was acquired after he had left the Catholic Church.

  • cptdoom

    The worst part of Jenky’s words were:

    May God have mercy especially on the souls of those politicians who pretend to be Catholic in church, but in their public lives, rather like Judas Iscariot, betray Jesus Christ by how they vote and how they willingly cooperate with intrinsic evil.

    Translation – if you believe, as JFK did, that Catholic politicians cannot enfore Catholic theology on non-Catholics, you “cooperate with intrinsic evil” and are just like Judas. How lovely. Remember, Rudy Guiliani, a Roman Catholic, received absolutely zero criticism for dumping his wife – during a televised press conference, no less – but was threatened with refusal of communion by one bishop for being pro-choice. Somehow that does not sound like the Roman Catholic Church in which I was raised.

    Jenky does get one thing right:

    …this is not a war where any believing Catholic may remain neutral.

    Although I would argue his church joint the war against LGBT Americans, at least in part, to cover up their participation in the largest criminal conspiracy in the history of humanity, he is abosolutely right that believing Catholics cannot remain neutral. If he took a long hard look at his dwindling numbers during Mass, however, he might notice that more and more of them are choosing to ignore the church entirely. May not be the outcome he was hoping for.

  • anubisprime

    @7

    Fair point Ed…but…always one of those…

    “The official Vatican spokesman said today that the German-born Pope Benedict XVI was never a member of the Hitler Youth.

    Reverend Federico Lombardi claimed that the pope, whose speech at the Yad Vashem Holocaust memorial Monday was slammed in Israel as too abstract, impersonal and unapologetic, “was never in the Hitler Youth, never, never, never.”

    Most folks would understand that some situations are out of personal control…but the Vatican run with that spin for a while before it became more of a hindrance then the fact they were denying.

    Nothing to hide no need to lie…

    Second point was Ratty could possibly have claimed seminary study which would exempt him from service, he and his brother did not invoke that study exemption apparently, but there is no real clarity here.

    When Benny was inducted 1941…it is passing odd that there was little need at that time the volunteer membership was sufficient …they only started seriously inducting when the war went totally pear shaped on their ass around 1943 and frontline losses due to death and desertion was crippling their effort!

  • raven42

    I like how the bishop completely fails to give any actual evidence of anything whatsoever against the church or Christians happening in the present day in real life. The last I checked, the stuff he’s vaguely alluding to is how the government is in some cases not giving Catholic institutions free money as a result of those institutions being unwilling to do things like treat gays as full citizens or allow abortions even in cases where it’s plainly a lifesaving procedure.

  • TheAllen

    “Remember that in past history…”

    I think it’s much more important to not forget to remember future history. I’m just saying…

  • Who Knows?

    If so, then the Pope is just like John Wayne Gacy.

  • Randomfactor

    Now things have come to such a pass in our beloved country that this is a battle that we could lose,

    God willing.

    Don’t forget that the German Catholic Center Party put Hitler INTO power as the deciding faction.

  • Rip Steakface

    Careful, this bishop may actually be PZ Myers’ doppelganger.

  • Rip Steakface

    Oops, wrong link.

  • bananacat

    This is apparently A Thing now. Just a week ago my conservative coworker told me that “Hilter, Stalin, and FDR” were all cut from the same cloth. Someone must have sent out a memo.

  • Matthew Cline

    @slc1:

    As far as I recall, Luther actually liked the Jews immediately after he left the Catholic church. He figured that not many Jews converted to Catholicism because they recognized how bad the Catholic church was, and likewise they’d recognize that Protestantism didn’t have any of Catholicism’s flaws and thus droves of them would convert to Protestantism. When Jews didn’t convert to Protestantism in droves it really pissed him off.

  • davem

    The Church survived and even flourished during centuries of terrible persecution, during the days of the Roman Empire.

    Like, when it was the official church? Yeah, that’s persecution.

  • dan4

    @19: On a federal level, he’s obviously alluding to the HHS contraception mandate in “Obamacare.” Wonder what he’s talking about with the “diss” against the Illinois state government.

  • michaelgaribaldi

    I refer the apparently ignorant fellow to the history of his own church. Specifically the Croation-Catholic-Facist Ustashi movement. They gleefully slaughterd the Orthodox Serbs, and then tried to convert those who still remained.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usta%C5%A1e

  • matty1

    Re the Pope in the Hitler Youth. Is it true what I heard that there was never actually a local HY group in Ratzingers town so although his name was put down he never got involved in the organisation?

  • Chris from Europe

    @Randomfactor

    And don’t forget that its successor party is currently pushing Europe into the abyss.

  • slc1

    Re Matthew Cline @ #26

    That’s correct. Of course, after he got pissed off, he wrote a number of tracts that were as bad or worse then anything in Mein Kampf, and certainly were a significant influence on Frankenberger, despite the latter’s Catholic upbringing.

  • abb3w

    Incidentally… via Religion Clause blog, there’s been a complaint filed with the IRS by Americans United as a violation of the rules that “absolutely” prohibit tax-exempt organizations “from directly or indirectly participating in, or intervening in, any political campaign on behalf of (or in opposition to) any candidate for elective public office” and state “public statements of position (verbal or written) made by or on behalf of the organization in favor of or in opposition to any candidate for public office clearly violate the prohibition against political campaign activity”.

    Mind you, the RC Church is too big (and has too many voters) to strip outright for a “first offense”, I suspect. Worst case, the IRS might strip the whole ecclesiastical territory of Chicago if the Bishop’s Archbishop is overly uncooperative (and the Pope might find it politically necessary to make a few transfers around, all the way up to the Cardinal level, to see it goes no higher), but Benny #16 doesn’t seem foolhardy enough to sound off in explicit support without consulting lawyers. I can’t see Benny #16 incautious enough to go all-in; the US church can’t afford a full “Render Unto Caesar” bill on its assets.

  • Pierce R. Butler

    Ed Brayton @ # 7: Everyone was automatically inducted into the Hitler Youth at a certain age.

    On paper, it worked that way. In practice, lots and lots of boys avoided Hitlerjugende participation. The organization was originally created as a recruiting agency for Himmler’s SS, and neither he nor Hitler gave mandatory membership a high priority.

    The strongest youth resistance to HJ actions occurred in the Rhineland area (where Joseph Ratzinger was born and raised). But he could have gone a different route, such as the Edelweiss Pirates.

    Of course young Joseph rightfully perceived certain problems in taking that route: it required courage; the EP did not offer seminary scholarships (which I suspect was JR’s main motivation for joining HJ); and – possibly most shocking & intolerable of all – their membership included girls.

  • Pierce R. Butler

    matty1 @ # 30 – Don’t make any major bets based on that story.

    Young Ratzinger’s involvement with the Hitler Jugende went deep enough that he was among those swept up into Army service during the last year or so of the war.

    His duties took him as far as Hungary, where he guarded prison camps. Earlier, he also did his part on the home front as part of an anti-aircraft battery team. Benny Hex can proudly and factually claim to be the only Pope who has ever fired on US and British troops!

    Apologists claim he finally deserted, but a close look at the timeline suggests Ratzinger did not begin his walk home until his unit disintegrated around him at the very end.

  • Chris from Europe

    @Pierce R. Butler

    What sources are you using? The Pope wasn’t born in the Rhineland, but in Bavaria, for example. (And it’s Jugend, not Jugende.)

    My father’s uncle was forced into service because he and others beat up the son of a local Nazi. (The HJ made noise outside the church during service.)

  • stumbledin

    Oh boy! I’m betting this one gets the attention. While sincerely hoping I do not become the very thing against which I rail I do so hope the Koch brothers put this fellow in quite a few of their attack adds. That just might do the trick! Another silver lining might be Allen West feeling a calling requiring him to move to this fellow’s diocese. Not for religious reasons rather merely for a bit of regular, pleasant chat with someone who actually get his meaning.

  • Pierce R. Butler

    Chris from Europe @ # 36: What sources are you using?

    Memories of various general & cultural 3rd Reich histories, plus Peter Loewenberg, “The Appeal to Youth” in Allan Mitchell’s The Nazi Revolution (3rd ed) and others I can’t find in my notes at the moment.

    “… before 1933 the HJ was weakest in precisely those areas where Catholic religiosity and membership in Catholic Youth was strongest: Bavaria, the Rhineland, and parts of Silesia. This is accountable both the institutional centralization of Catholic youth and to ideological opposition to Nazi racial thought.” – Richard Steigmann-Gall, The Holy Reich: Nazi Conceptions of Christianity, 1919-1945

    My bad on the spelling, and for rashly assuming that “Rhineland” includes all lands through which the Rhine flows.

    My father’s uncle was forced into service …

    This implies that had he not thumped the HJs, he might have remained out of uniform. No?

  • KG

    <blockquote<he wrote a number of tracts that were as bad or worse then anything in Mein Kampf, and certainly were a significant influence on Frankenberger, despite the latter’s Catholic upbringing. – slc1

    It shouldn’t be a surprise that a genocidal maniac such as slc1 is also a pretentious idiot. I suppose slc1 thinks he’s showing his erudition and sophistication by referring to Adolf Hitler as “Frankenberger”. For those who don’t know, Hans Frank, Hitler’s former lawyer, claimed after WWII that Hitler had told him a relative was attempting to blackmail him over alleged Jewish ancestry, and asked Frank to find out the facts. Frank claimed to have discovered that at the time of the birth of Alois Hitler (born Schicklgruber), Adolf Hitler’s father, Alois’s unmarried mother was working for a Jewish family called Frankenberger. There are numerous implausibilities in Frank’s account, which no reputable scholar takes seriously. There is no other evidence whatever that Hitler had Jewish ancestry, or believed he had. Of course, even if his father had been a Jew named Frankenberger, that would not change the simple fact that Adolf Hitler’s legal name, and the name by which he was known throughout his life, was “Adolf Hitler”.

  • Chris from Europe

    My bad on the spelling, and for rashly assuming that “Rhineland” includes all lands through which the Rhine flows.

    It depends on the context, but in German geography it’s virtually always a reference to the region Rhineland. But the Rhine doesn’t flow through (modern) Bavaria at all. The Palatinate belonged to the Kingdom and later Free State of Bavaria, but Ratzinger is from Upper Bavaria.

    No?

    I’m not sure that he wouldn’t have been drafted at all. My great uncle was also directly sent to the front as punishment, not just drafted. As far as I have read, Ratzinger’s whole seminary group was drafted. While the atmosphere between certain bishops and high-level Nazis was apparently quite good, that didn’t extend to Catholics in general.