Barber: Family Member Got What He Deserved

Barber: Family Member Got What He Deserved June 7, 2012

Uber-bigot Matt Barber participated in a panel discussion at a wingnut conference recently and told the story of a “very dear family member” who is gay and HIV-positive. After telling his story, he concludes by blaming him for it, that AIDS is the natural result of his “sin.”

“He was seduced. Found a group of people who welcomed him and embraced him and accepted him. And they had counselors and others who said, ‘This is what you are, you’re gay, embrace it and be proud of it.’ You know the rest of the story. He’s in his thirties, his young thirties now, and he’s dying of HIV/AIDS. The wages of sin is death.”

I’m sure his life would have been so much better if he’d gone through “ex-gay therapy” and pretended not to be gay in order to please bigots like Barber.


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  • The wages of sin is death

    I wonder if he’d be so glib about that if it was his own son or daughter would became infected after getting carried away and forgetting to use protection one time.

  • tacitus: no, he wouldn’t be glib; he’d sound more solemn and sad and compassionate — but he’d probably be saying the same thing.

  • matty1

    So easy to change

    “He was seduced. Found a group of people who welcomed him and embraced him and accepted him. And they had counselors and others who said, ‘This is what you are, you’re gay a true believer, embrace it and be proud of it.’ You know the rest of the story. He’s in his thirties, his young thirties now, and he’s dying of HIV/AIDS because his church opposed measures like easily available condoms that could have reduced his risk of infection then told him not to take antiretrovirals because it was God’s judgement. The wages of sin ignorance is death.”

  • John Hinkle

    The wages of sin is death.

    We’re all going to die. So according to his ridiculous theology, we’re all fucked up beyond repair, and it’s our own fault. But hey, keep in mind his god loves us.

  • cptdoom

    So when Barber, who is not, shall we say, in the best of shape, gets Type II diabetes and has to begin having his limbs amputated, we can all just say “you deserve it for being a glutton?”

  • Cal

    Sadly, this type of attitude from family was what kept me in the closet for so long. When I was about 21 I had an uncle who was beat nearly to death by too good Mormon boys while leaving a gay bar in Salt Lake. My families attitude was basically it was his fault for being there. I knew I was gay at that point and had known for years but that kind of attitude about gay people from your own family is hard to take. How could I have come out to a family with that kind of thinking? This story reminds me of that and of too many friends who lost their families because they were gay or HIV positive because it was seen as a failing of that person…

  • Mr Ed

    and Jesus said happy are those who call themselves by my name for they shall gloat at others misfortune.

    2 Ronald 2:3-4

  • d cwilson

    I wonder if he’d be so glib about that if it was his own son or daughter would became infected after getting carried away and forgetting to use protection one time.

    Of course he would be glib.

  • d cwilson

    The teachers of the law and the Pharisees brought in a woman caught in adultery. They made her stand before the group and said to Jesus, “Teacher, this woman was caught in the act of adultery. In the Law Moses commanded us to stone such women. Now what do you say?” But Jesus bent down. When they kept on questioning him, he picked up a rock, straightened up, and beaned her on the head with the rock.

    Ronald 8:4-8

  • scienceavenger

    But Matt, whny doesn’t God punish lesbians for their sin? Does God love lesians most?

  • bornagainatheist

    The wages of sin is death

    Let’s see, Christians have had their sins washed away by Jesus, and the wages of sin is death, so Christians don’t die. Oh, wait, they do? So the gay guy will die and Mr. Barber will die, so what exactly is the the significance of that particular bible verse in connection with what he was talking about? Oh, I know. Mr. Barber and all Christians are secret homosexuals. Got it.

  • ArtK

    @ bornagainatheist

    You see, they don’t really die. It’s just a pretend-die when they go to live with their Sky Daddy and eat endless casseroles and sing endless praise to Sky Daddy and his Son/Doppleganger/Ghost/Whatever.

    Other than that, I’d give it a good 85% chance that Mr. Barber is a self-hating homosexual.

  • “Found a group of people who welcomed him and embraced him and accepted him. And they had counselors and others who said, ‘This is what you are, you’re Christian, embrace it and be proud of it.’”

    Doesn’t this version happen far more often?

  • axilet

    If he is so very dear, Mr. Barber, why the hell are you discussing his personal business in front of an audience of strangers and talking shit about him? >:(

  • dan4

    I always thought the “death” portion of “the wages of sin is death” was supposed to mean SPIRITUAL “death” (i.e. hell). The maxim doesn’t really make much sense in the literal context that Barber applies it to his anecdote (after all, all of us, including heterosexuals who never acquire AIDS, are going to eventually die).

  • M Groesbeck

    ArtK @ 12 —

    Other than that, I’d give it a good 85% chance that Mr. Barber is a self-hating homosexual.

    Nope, sorry. Matt Barber is officially 100% heterosexual. We in the Gay Illuminati preemptively voted him off the island; we don’t want him. He’s the heterosexuals’ problem to deal with.

  • ArtK

    @ M Groesbeck

    Fair enough. We don’t want him either. Can we agree that he’s a despicable waste of resources and lacks any shred of human decency?

  • williamsnedden

    Barber is not only a bigot, he’s also a complete idiot. Even if you accept arguendo that the “wages of sin is death”, AIDS was the result of unprotected sex, NOT “homosexuality” or even “gay sex”. Barber = logic fail. Actually, I could just shorten that to: Barber = fail.

  • Has anyone informed Barber that HIV is no longer a death sentence in the US? HIV is for many people a manageable chronic illness with anti-retroviral treatment. Medical science has come quite a ways since the 80s.