Awww. Scott Lively Wants to Be Friends

Awww. Scott Lively Wants to Be Friends August 1, 2012

Scott Lively, the utterly deranged bigot who thinks the Nazis were only really bad guys because they were gay, is trying to bond with us “classic liberals” who have criticized a couple of local officials for trying to stop Chick-Fil-A from opening new stores in their cities. And naturally, the Worldnutdaily is giving him a forum to do so.

Salon’s Glenn Greenwald chided his fellow travelers on the left in a column titled “Rahm Emanuel’s Dangerous Free Speech Attack,” remarking “You can’t cheer when political officials punish the expression of views you dislike and then expect to be taken seriously when you wrap yourself in the banner of free speech in order to protest state punishment of views you like and share.” He listed a number of other liberal journalists and groups like the ACLU who had also gone public with their criticism.

Welcome to the brave new world of homo-fascism, Mr. Greenwald, but watch your back. You’re now officially a “homophobe” because you have dared to oppose something that is favorable to the “gay” cause. Sure, you tried to cover your backside by tossing in a couple of cheap shots at the “chicken CEO” but that won’t save you from the brownshirts. They don’t really care about free speech. They care about power. Indeed, if you had been paying attention over the past few years, you would have noticed that their official position is that “anti-gay bigots” don’t deserve free speech at all.

Perhaps you are unaware of the “Commentator Accountability Project” of the powerful Gay and Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation (GLADD). It was launched earlier this year to hold media outlets (not commentators) accountable for allowing traditional marriage advocates (including this writer) to have a voice in the public debate.

Ah, there’s that famous bit of stupidity where criticism is censorship — no, make that “homo-fascism.” He doesn’t cite anyone who actually says that Greenwald is now a homophobe because he, like me, defends free speech even for those we disagree with. Given that Greenwald is gay himself and a staunch advocate of equal rights, it’s not likely that anyone outside of Lively’s fevered imagination would ever do so (or try to do that to me, for that matter). Lively, on the other hand, actually is a homophobe, and one of the most virulent and pathetic in the entire world. He’s basically Fred Phelps without the crazy family.

But surely, Mr. Greenwald, you are not unaware of the many incidents of “gay” bullying of Christians in recent years, from the celebrity-level character assassination of beauty queen Carrie Prejean (for saying nothing more than that marriage should be between a man and a woman), to the recent bashing of Brad Pitt’s mom for giving her opinion that homosexuality is wrong in a letter to her local newspaper. Reportedly, death threats have since intimidated her into silence. Last year, just outside of Rahm’s Chicago in Arlington Heights, a church school that hosted me for a talk on the biblical view of homosexuality was vandalized when a chunk of pavement was thrown through a window. On it was written the message “Shut Down Lively” and a note was attached threatening future violence. Come to mention it, though, you wouldn’t have known about this hate crime because it got almost no press coverage, even locally. I wonder why?

True, these examples are not precisely equivalent to the case of public officials abusing their offices to punish pro-family speech, but they do share in common an implicit belief that all disapproval of homosexuality must be suppressed. And that the urgency of this goal trumps all other considerations.

Well sure. On Planet Wingnuttia, you see, criticism of a vapid beauty queen and a random, anonymous brick through a window is just like his own advocacy of putting all gay people in prison and lying about history in order to dehumanize them. The former makes you a “homo-fascist” but the latter just makes you “traditional values advocate” and a godly man.

Don’t get me wrong; I genuinely appreciate that some of you classic liberals have jumped to the defense of Dan Cathy’s free-speech rights. Forgive me for my skepticism of your motives, however, in light of all the other examples of “gay” bullying that have largely gone unchallenged by you all. One can’t help but wonder if the “danger” you sense is not actually to the First Amendment, but to the “gay” agenda itself, by the prospect of a too-early awakening of the sleeping giant of American public opinion. The frog must not be prompted to jump out of the pot by a too-sudden rise in heat.

Let me flip that on its head. Don’t get me wrong, I genuinely appreciate your concern for our well being and your sincere warning to us to “watch our back” in the face of “homo-fascism” that will, in your delusional brain, will now result in us all getting ostracized from our allies in the fight for equality (yes, that was sarcasm), you’ll have to forgive my skepticism that a genuine fascist like yourself really gives a shit. So fuck off.

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  • F

    They don’t really care about free speech. They care about power.

    This sounds more like psychological projection, and more accurately describes Lively’s area of the political landscape.

    Or maybe not. Maybe one polly’s attempt at unConstitutional legislation really reflects what all critics of Chickens-Can’t-Spell intend. Maybe one brick through a window is equivalent to endless beatings and real, harmful discrimination.

  • Aliasalpha

    So is homo-fascism fascism specifically directed against ones own gender? Would that then mean that Hitler was a bi-fascist because he didn’t discriminate based on gender?

  • Fred Mounts

    Greenwald has been accused of being an anti-semite, or at least a self-hating Jew; no reason he can’t be a homophobe as well. Next he’ll be accused of hating all white guys. And people with two legs.

  • slc1

    Re Fred Mounts @ #3

    Mr. Greenwald is a self hating Jew.

  • Fred Mounts

    Ah, clockwork. You might want to get a new schtick, there slc1. That one is crusty.

  • Hercules Grytpype-Thynne

    slc1 is a self-loving troll.

  • slc1 – We’ve been over this before: being able to see a difference between Judaism as a faith and cultural tradition and Israel as a modern country that is capable of making mistakes is neither anti-semitic nor self-hating. It’s getting really tired.

  • skinnercitycyclist

    re: the brick through the window,

    Come to mention it, though, you wouldn’t have known about this hate crime because it got almost no press coverage, even locally. I wonder why?

    is it possibly because it was covered on obscure media like NBC, the Chicago Sun Times, and the Chicago Tribune, among other outlets, as even a cursory google search discovers? Way to manufacture persecution, Scotty! BTW, Oregon does not miss you, Lon Mabon, or the Oregon Citizens’ Alliance at all, at all!

  • Doug Little

    The lady doth protest too much, methinks.

  • KG

    slc1 differs from the leading Nazis, so far as genocidal intent is concerned, only in his choice of target.

  • Not that it matters that much but the brick through the window incident that Lively alludes too could have been a hoax. Box Turtle Bulletin has a run down:

    http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2011/10/19/37986

    If it’s not a hoax, that was wrong obviously but not on par with things Lively advocates for.

  • Oh for crying out loud, KG. I think slc1 has a big blind spot when it comes to Israel and anyone who criticizes it, but to compare him to Nazis? That’s just repulsive.

  • Azkyroth, Former Growing Toaster Oven

    Oh for crying out loud, KG. I think slc1 has a big blind spot when it comes to Israel and anyone who criticizes it, but to compare him to Nazis? That’s just repulsive.

    I’m pretty sure he’s said on occasion that he could be convinced that the genocide of the Palestinians was “necessary.” I may be misremembering.

  • interrobang

    I don’t even understand how the issue they’re actually talking about is a speech issue to begin with. Determining “We don’t want Chick-Fil-A in our neighbourhood” isn’t any different from saying “We don’t want Wal-Mart in our neighbourhood,” and that is something I’m about 1000% behind. After all, it’s not like you can’t condemn Chick-Fil-A for its shitty, unethical, and scum-enriched business practices too. (They are just getting sued for firing a female employee of 21 years so she could “be a stay-at-home mother,” among other things.)

    As far as I’m concerned, funneling off a portion of your corporate profits to ensure that a group of people remain second-class citizens (while being happy to take their money) actually is an unethical business practice, and not a speech issue at all.