Lively: Gays Responsible for Anti-Gay Violence

Lively: Gays Responsible for Anti-Gay Violence November 22, 2013

Scott Lively, the deranged bigot who brought you “all the Nazis were gay,” now says that the increasing number of anti-gay hate crimes in Russia are the fault of gays. Not that they’re bringing it on, but that they’re actually the ones committing the violence against themselves.

On her Saturday “Mission America” radio show, Harvey said that anti-gay violence in Russia has nothing to do with the country’s anti-gay laws, while Lively explained that actually the only violence occurring is “gay-on-gay crime.”

“Russia does have nationalists, these are Nazis, the same as I wrote in the book ‘The Pink Swastika: Homosexuality and the Nazi Party,’ that’s the same thing,” Lively said. “The guys that are beating up gays in Russia—and it’s not any more prevalent than it ever has been really and it isn’t all that prevalent at all—but the ones that are doing it are butch homosexuals who are beating up effeminate homosexuals, the same thing that happened in Germany; this is gay-on-gay crime, at least that is what it appears to be.”

Evidence? Of course not. Why would he need evidence? If his followers have bought his lies to this point, why would they care at all whether he has evidence or not?

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  • Well, I guess that makes the violence okay, then.

  • Leave it to a deranged bigot to take victim-blaming to a whole new level.

  • Al Dente

    Lively is taking victim blaming to a higher level than usual.

  • Doug Little

    Homosexuality and the Nazi Party,’ that’s the same thing,” Lively said.

    I’d like him to say that to a group of Neo-Nazis, should make for an entertaining couple of minutes.

  • Is that seriously what his justification was for why Nazis were killing gay people along with Jewish people? The Nazis were the butch ones killing the effeminate ones? Why would they even… no, I don’t even want to know what’s going on in that fevered brain.

  • dugglebogey

    They learned it from all those Negroes that lynched themselves in the south back in the day….

  • Loqi

    I second Doug Little’s idea.

  • otrame

    You know what I’d like to see? Lively saying that shit in the faces of the guys beating up gays in Russia. Seriously. I think it would be good. I would prefer, of course, for security to be successful at preventing any harm done to anyone, but…

    Does it make me a bad person for wanting that {non-gendered slur} to get a chance to walk in the shoes of people being threatened with violence? Just the fear part, not the violence part.

  • paulg

    Given that Lively has been instrumental in helping Russia develop its anti-gay laws (including the one in the pipeline for kidnapping gay people’s children) I agree with the sentiment others have expressed, and think we should kickstart a little program to have his views spread far and wide in Russia. Should make his next visit interesting.

  • @otrame #8 Bad person or not, I feel the same way. Sometimes, one must be hoist with ones own petard before one can understand just how dangerous home-made explosives can be.

  • paulg

    There’s also a very easy, empirical way to determine if Lively’s right. We have the faces and hometowns of many if not all of the people who have lured, raped, tortured and allegedly killed gays in Russia. They tape it and post it proudly, with no fear of prosecution. Let’s just track them down. I can’t believe nobody has yet.

  • tsig

    WWII was nothing but gay on gay violence??