More Stupidity From Sarah Palin

More Stupidity From Sarah Palin November 12, 2014

I know, I know, this could be a daily feature. Sarah Palin is very upset, you see, because President Obama wrote a letter to the Iranian Ayatollah asking for cooperation in combating ISIS, which is as much of a threat to Iran as it is to us (a bigger threat, actually). And she’s spewing some serious stupid on her Facebook page:

President Palling Around With Terrorists

Good God, Mr. President. To partner with Iran is to trust the enemy, which is insane. Iran has complicity in the rise of ISIS as it supports radical militias and arms Islamic terrorists.

No, see, that last sentence is only true if you’re an ignoramus who thinks all Muslims are exactly the same and all terrorist groups have the same beliefs and goals. Iran is Shiite, ISIS is Sunni. ISIS has pledged to destroy the Shiites and has focused most of their attacks in Iraq and Syria on them. ISIS is a serious enemy to Iran. And sometimes it’s necessary to form temporary alliances. Was FDR wrong to partner with Stalin in the fight against Hitler? If he hadn’t, Hitler would almost certainly not have been defeated. The Eastern front was crucial in defeating Germany.

In the 2008 campaign Sen. McCain and I warned, on behalf of every reasonable person, that your willingness to negotiate with terrorists would get Americans killed; that pulling an anti-Reagan move by taking our Big Stick of strength and putting it in the hands of any foe could be insurmountably devastating for our allies.

Big Stick of strength? Seriously? And who is proposing that? Does she think Obama is proposing to put American troops under the control of Iran, for fuck’s sake? As for this being “anti-Reagan,” she’s right. Reagan would have sent thousands of TOW missiles to Iran in a trade for hostages while publicly declaring that he would never negotiate with terrorists.

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  • matty1

    “Big Stick of Strength”

    I’m taking that band name before anyone else gets it

  • Anti-Reagan? So Obama pulled a move that Reagan never would have and stayed awake during the entire cabinet meeting.

  • dingojack

    Uh – didn’t Ray-gun sell weapons to Iran then use the (off-the-books) cash to arm vicious, drug-dealing kidnappers and thugs in Central America? (And didn’t that work out well? Just ask your friendly neighbourhood crack-dealer).

    Is that the kind of ‘taking our Big Stick of strength and putting it in the hands of our foe’ you were thinking of Sarah?


  • Reginald Selkirk

    Uh – didn’t Ray-gun sell weapons to Iran then use the (off-the-books) cash to arm vicious, drug-dealing kidnappers and thugs in Central America?

    Of course not! That was Oliver North, acting completely on his own with no approval or support from the Big Boss (wink wink nudge nudge).

  • freemage

    “Big Stick of strength”. I can’t… I simply cannot deal with Sarah Palin making sexual innuendo this early in the morning.

  • colnago80

    Here’s what the Ayatollah Khamenei had to say after receiving the letter from Obama. Getting in bed with Khamenei is equivalent to getting in bed with Hister. I say let Khamenei and al-Baghdadi duke it out.

  • brucegee1962

    I wonder if McCain may be sending one of his people around to her office to tell her to lay off on invoking his name with this stuff. I don’t see him being this knee-jerk on Iran.

  • Mobius


    Yeah, the phallic imagery there had me just going, “Ewwwwwwwwwww!”

  • Why don’t they team up? I mean, they all hate America and Freedom and America, and toil night and day to bring down this country and destroy everything we stand for. Especially Obama.

  • Kevin Kehres

    @7 brucegee1962

    They’d have to wake McCain up from his nap first. Grampy gets grumpy if he doesn’t get his nap.

  • John Pieret


    We are already “in bed” with the Iranians in that we aren’t trying to prevent them sending arms and advisers to the Kurdish and Shiite militias in Iraq. The letter was a bit of stage dressing to show other Muslim countries (Turkey, Jordan, Saudi Arabia, etc.) that we are serious about building an Islamic coalition to fight ISIS.

  • Loqi

    I once had a level 6 fighter who used a Big Stick of Strength +2.

  • colnago80

    Re John Pieret @ #11

    When you get into the pen with the pigs, you may expect to emerge with a coating of mud.

  • a_ray_in_dilbert_space

    Well, I guess she thinks a big stick of strength in the hand is worth two in the bush.

    Seriously, does she have any idea how this sounds?

  • colnago80

    Here’s the correct and accurate approach to the mad mullahs who misrule Iran. Kudos to Sheldon and Haim.

  • dingojack

    SLC – You’re speaking from personal experimentation I assume (don’t worry I won’t ask)! 🙂

    Anyway, your homily is far too late for American foreign policy — that ship sailed long ago…*



    * to somewhat muddy the metaphor (and we’re back)

  • colnago80

    Re Chihuahua @ #16

    Some gratitude for saving Oz from the Nips in WW 2,.

  • dhall

    colnago80 – #6 – the name is Hitler, not Hister, although that’s marginally better than the name you usually give him, but the fact that you won’t simply write the guy’s actual name is just weird. #11 – to call the Iranians pigs, considering that the majority of them are Muslim, would seem a nasty, unnecessary dig about their religious beliefs. It also doesn’t help at all to lob insults when a chance to cooperate over a common problem might lead to better relations with Iran overall. If you really think the best American policy is to maintain hostility forever, then we’d still be at odds with the UK, France, Spain, Mexico, Italy, Germany, Austria, Hungary, Japan, Vietnam, the Philippines, and everyone else the US has ever had a conflict with. Eternal grudges are counter-productive.

  • dhall, colnago80 is John Bolton.

  • colnago80

    Re Modusoperandi @ #19

    Not hardly.

  • colnago80, you’ve both got the same moustache. And the anger issues. And the other issues. What I’m saying is that you’ve got issues.

  • colnago80

    re dhall @ #18

    A couple of things should be noted. One, removal of the hostility against Germany and Japan was contingent on beating the fucking shit out of them and removing Hister and Tojo from power at great cost in treasure and lives. Two, removal of the mad mullahs in Iran is the sine qua non for restoring normal relations with Iran. As someone once said, you don’t negotiate with Schicklgruber. Don’t believe it, just ask Neville Chamberlain. Ali Khamenei is playing us for suckers.

  • colnago80

    Re Modusoperandi @ #21

    I do not now nor have I ever had a mustache.

  • colnago80; moustache, chocolate milk, same difference.

  • matty1

    I’ve heard, though not checked out that there has been quiet unofficial cooperation between the US and Iran for some time in Iraq and Afghanistan. Both have an interest in keeping those countries out of the hands of Sunni extremists but both risk a backlash at home if they admit it so it is not discussed much.

  • colnago80

    Re matty1 @ #25

    Poor strategy. When your mortal enemies what to fight with each other, the best strategy is to let ’em have at and sit back and watch.

  • …which is as much of a threat to Iran as it is to us (a bigger threat, actually).

    I’m pretty sure ISIS is a bigger threat to every country that is geographically closer to it than the US. And according to the wingnuts, that would have to include Mexico, because for some reason before they come here with their Ebola bazookas, they have to go through Mexico and blend in with the wetbacks.

  • matty1

    @26 If the US have been sitting back to watch events in Iraq and Afghanistan for the past 14 years I wouldn’t like to see a place where they got actively involved.

  • Want to really blow (what passes for) Sarah Palin’s mind? Tell her that the U.S. was allied with Stalin during World War II. You’ll probably have to explain to her that World War II came after World War I. And also convince her that Hitler and Stalin weren’t the same person because Communism, Socialism and Fascism are not all the same thing. Really.

  • colnago80

    Re matty1 @ #28

    We would have been much better off if we had sat back and watched the events unfold in Afghanistan during the Reagan Administration and in Iraq during the Dubya administration.

  • matty1

    @30 Damn, you know I hate it when you’re right but you got this one.

  • Conlago:

    Speaking as a “Nip”, can you please not use that word?

  • dhall

    #19 – Modusoperandi – Yeah, you’re right. Just as hopeless too.

  • dingojack

    SLC (#17) – Bwhahahahahaha. As a historian (or a diplomat) you make a pretty mediocre teacher.


  • DLC

    Is that The Stick of Strength +3, or the cheaper Stick of Strength +1 ? I had the +2 model but wasn’t happy with it, and so was looking to trade up.

  • colnago80

    Re Chihuahua @ #34

    The Chihuahua is in denial. Without the high command in the Japanese Navy turning their attention to Pearl Harbor and Midway, Oz would have been overrun and conquered. Who else was going to stop them other then the US Navy?

  • dingojack

    SLC – Code Blue./ JN 25 & etc. were broken. They revealed the truth of Japanese intentions.

    As I said: ‘as a historian….’


  • colnago80

    Re Chihuahua @ #37

    Hey numbnuts, this in no way, shape, form or regard refutes my claim. In fact, it supports it because it shows that the Japanese high command planned to eliminate the US bases in the Philippines and Hawaii before continuing its aggression in Southeast Asia. It was the failure to sink the aircraft carriers in Pearl Harbor, which, fortunately for us were not in port on Dec. 7, 1941, and it’s failure to sink them in the battle of the Coral Sea that caused the shift in focus away from Southeast Asia and the attempt to lure the US Navy into a trap at Midway. Absent these events, Japan could have continued its advance against Oz.

  • dingojack

    Except for the teeny inconvenient fact — Japan wasn’t interested. How did we know this? We had broken their codes.

    Is it electron or neutron degeneracy that’s stopping your collapse?