NOM Founder Pledges to Fight Equality for 100 Years

NOM Founder Pledges to Fight Equality for 100 Years November 27, 2014

Robert George, a law professor at Princeton and the co-founder of the National Organization for Marriage, is a lot like the black knight in Monty Python and the Holy Grail. He may have had both arms and legs cut off, but he swears that he will never give up in his courageous fight against equality and for discrimination.

And so I said, that’s why we have to fight. We have to resolve that we will stand for marriage and fight for however long it takes—it might be 20 years, it might be 50 years, it might be 100 years—to rebuild the marriage culture and to restore in law, where it has been displaced, a sound understanding of marriage.

As a result of this, we will draw ridicule. We will bring scorn upon ourselves, because powerful people in institutions reject our understanding of marriage. They reject what everyone understood marriage to be until yesterday. And they claim that anyone who disagrees with them is a bigot, or a hater, or is motivated by irrational animus, or archaic religious beliefs. Yet we must suffer that, be willing to suffer that opprobrium, perhaps discrimination, perhaps the loss of friends, perhaps even conflict within the family, for the sake of rebuilding marriage, because so much for people depends on it, and especially for the poor.

And we must begin where marriage has been eroded, by protecting our own religious liberty as institutions and as people, individuals of faith—to honor in our own businesses, in our own lives, our conscientious belief that marriage is the union of husband and wife.

There are efforts to take away these religious liberties, in the area, for example, of accreditation of academic institutions or healthcare institutions, licensing where businesses or organizations require state licensure, in the area of government contracting where churches compete to get contracts from the government to provide social services to the poor, and of course in employment.

So we need to work for laws that will protect religious liberty and the rights of conscience so that we can maintain in our own faiths, in our own lives, the integrity of our views and our convictions about marriage, which will provide the platform for us then to fight back in the effort to restore the marriage culture and to restore in law the basic understanding of marriage as a conjugal union oriented toward children and not concerned fundamentally with adult satisfactions.

In 1963, Gov. George Wallace of Alabama gave his inaugural address after being reelected. In that famous speech he pledged to fight fiercely for “segregation now, segregation tomorrow, segregation forever.” George has merely modified that slightly: discrimination now, discrimination tomorrow, discrimination forever. And like Wallace, he demands that businesses be allowed to continue to refuse to hire or serve those they disapproved of. And like Wallace, he will lose this battle. Hell, he’s already lost it. Why else is he trying to hard to fire up the troops? And like Wallace, he will become increasingly out of step with the rest of society and find himself to be in a tiny minority of small-minded bigots that the world has left behind.

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  • D. C. Sessions

    I’m not sure that the lesson runs the way you present it, Ed.

    George Wallace (and the South in general) lost the war but they’re winning the Reconstruction:

    * Black political power now is at its lowest point in more than forty years;

    * The Voting Rights Act is on its way to becoming a dead letter

    * The economic condition of black families is falling

    * The number of African-Americans murdered without legal recourse (including 12yo children) is if anything increasing

    * etc

  • John Pieret

    Right Wing Watch has a nice post about U.S. District Judge Carlton Reeves’s decision Tuesday overturning Mississippi’s SSM ban in which she documents how discrimination against gays has gone hand in hand with discrimination against blacks. Worse, the discrimination against gays, including black gays such as Bayard Rustin, came from both whites and blacks, segregationists and civil rights proponents, conservatives and liberals.

  • John Pieret

    And, of course, SSM isn’t the real target:

    [T]he demand for the redefinition of marriage to accommodate same-sex partners is not the cause of the erosion of the marriage culture. Rather, it’s an effect, a symptom of the erosion of the marriage culture.

    That erosion began in the 1960s. It is the fruit of the sexual revolution. It manifested itself in promiscuity, cohabitation, non-marital sexual cohabitation, the normalization of out of wedlock childbearing, the phenomenon of so-called “open marriages” and perhaps, above all, the rise of the divorce culture which was facilitated by changes in the law to permit, for example, a man unilaterally to divorce his wife, or a woman unilaterally to divorce her husband, the so-called “no- fault divorce”, which is actually better called unilateral divorce. …

    If we reduce [marriage] to sexual romantic companionship or domestic partnership and make that official in the law, that means there’s no going back. There’s no reforming in law and culture the institution of marriage, no reversing the divorce plague, no fighting back against cohabitation and all of these pathologies that have brought such devastation to men, to women, especially to children, and above all to the poor.

    So, what he wants enshrined in law again is no contraception, hypocritical demands for female chastity before marriage while males ‘sow their wild oats,’ people trapped in toxic marriages harmful to their children and all the other glories of the past.

    The only question is whether he wants to take the world back 60 years or 600.

  • colnago80

    And like Wallace, he will lose this battle. Hell, he’s already lost it. Why else is he trying to hard to fire up the troops?

    In the short run, I wouldn’t be to sure about this. As was reported on the news, Justice Ruth Ginsburg had a surgical procedure the other day, demonstrating how fragile the current lineup on the SCOTUS is. If she has to leave the court in the next 2 years, there is no way that the Senate will approve any nomination that Obama would make, leaving it to the next president to fill the slot. Given that the Democratic candidate is no sure thing to win in 2016 (note a poll showing Rmoney running ahead of Hillary), a Rethuglican president elected in 2016 would appoint an Alito clone to replace her, which would result in the SCOTUS overruling all these district court decisions on SSM.

  • pixiedust

    Does Princeton have a law school now? Although I guess one could be a professor of law without a law school.

  • Everybody needs a hobby. At least this will keep him off the streets.

  • hunter

    colnago80 @4: The reports of Justice Ginsburg’s “emergency surgery” were grossly exaggerated, or at least most of the headlines were. She had a stent placed in an artery in her heart, which is not surgery — it’s a routine procedure. Reports all agreed that she was expected to be released in 48 hours, which is standard — a couple days’ observation to make sure there are no complications, such as the entry point of the catheter springing a leak, and she’s out.

    As for Robert George, keep fighting, honey — you and your troops are doing us more good than we could have ever hoped, because people read your rhetoric, look at their gay family members, friends, and neighbors, and tune you out.

  • colnago80

    Re pixiedust @ #5

    Indeed, Princeton does not have a law school as such. It does have a Program in Law and Public Affairs. Robert George has an appointment as a Faculty Associate in that department. I have no idea what a Faculty Associate is.

  • colnago80

    Robert George is listed as a Faculty Associate, not a Professor.

    Interestingly enough, this asshole also believes that IVF should be outlawed. I wonder if he is aware that the wives of 2 of Mitt Rmoney’s sons had to undergo IVF because of their husband’s low sperm count.

  • anubisprime

    As long as he stays in the corner and not frighten the horses he can do whatever he wants for as long as he wants while the grown ups do the heavy lifting…

  • whheydt

    He forgot to mention that he’s going to hold his breath until he turns blue to get what he wants. If that doesn’t work, he’ll throw himself on the floor, scream, cry, and kick.

    On the other hand…if he wants to suffer for his cause, he should feel free to do so. So long as he suffers in silence.

  • theguy

    “so much for people depends on it, and especially for the poor.”

    As if Captain Teabag gives a shit about the poor. Will he support programs that help the poor? No – instead he will pretend that marriage will magically bring people out of poverty without the need for a safety net or universal health care.

  • cottonnero

    Considering how much support for his position has eroded in the last decade, imagine how difficult it will be to convince people in 2060 that they ought to fight to roll back the rights of gay couples that have been married for fifty-odd years. I mean, it’ll still be possible – I suspect even today you could get a anti-miscegenation league going in parts of Mississippi or Arkansas – but it’ll be a lot of heavy lifting for very little result.

  • RickR

    And they claim that anyone who disagrees with them is a bigot, or a hater, or is motivated by irrational animus, or archaic religious beliefs.

    Well, it sounds like you guys have a whole ton of good reasons why gay people shouldn’t be allowed to marry that don’t fall into these categories. And you’ve been deploying them in the SSM court cases, yeah?

    *looks at NOM arguments*


  • raven

    I’d never even heard of this guy.

    He is a Catholic Nationalist from West Virginia. He’s already lost. Even most Catholics don’t pay much attention to people like him.

    http :// 2014

    Catholic share of the U.S. adult population has held fairly steady in recent decades at around 25%. What this apparent stability obscures, however, is the large number of people who have left the Catholic Church.

    Approximately one-third of the survey respondents who say they were raised Catholic no longer describe themselves as Catholic. This means that roughly 10% of all Americans are former Catholics.

    The US Catholic church has lost 1/3 of its members. What has been keeping their numbers up is Hispanic immigration. And that isn’t working either. They are leaving the church by the millions as well.

    What Robert George, supposedly a noted legal scholar, pretends not to know is; he can believe whatever silly things he likes. Free country and all that. He has no moral, ethical, or legal right to make anyone else believe like him though.

  • raven

    As if Captain Teabag gives a shit about the poor.

    No he doesn’t care one bit.

    The RCC has a perverted doctrine that suffering is noble and all part of god’s plan. God wants people to suffer. God and jesus want you to offer up your suffering to them presumably because they are sadistic monsters.

    It’s alien to anyone not raised in a hardcore Catholic background. The rest of us just consider it stupid and evil.

    Of course, the priests, Pope, and Robert George don’t want to suffer themselves. They want everyone else to suffer instead.

    …fight for however long it takes—it might be 20 years, it might be 50 years, it might be 100 years…

    Robert george will die in the next few decades. Few will know or care. Many of those will cheer. There will be one less rabid Catholic bigot. And the world will be a slightly better place.

    When Robert George dies, the world will be a slightly better place.

  • k_machine

    100 years? Why not go full zealot and pledge a couple billion years, Scientology style?

  • John Pieret

    hunter @ 7:

    Good news: Scotusblog reports that Justice Ginsburg was released from the hospital this morning. As a proud owner of stents myself, the procedure is not that serious, though nothing is completely non-serious to 81 year-olds.

  • sigurd jorsalfar

    And they claim that anyone who disagrees with them is a bigot, or a hater, or is motivated by irrational animus, or archaic religious beliefs.

    And they claim this correctly.

  • “…marriage as a conjugal union oriented toward children and not concerned fundamentally with adult satisfactions.”

    The “marriage is about children” argument against SSM (which is bullshit anyway since so many SSM couples do have children) always leaves me chuckling. I have zero interest in having kids of my own. If I walked up to Robert George and said, “Sir, my girlfriend and I have been together for five years and are considering getting married. We will not be having kids, but we do like to fuck and I mean we *love* to fuck! Are you cool with us tying the knot?”

  • raven

    1. I did an extensive Google search. AFAICT, Robert George is 59 and not married and has no children!!! Even his Wikipedia entry is silent.

    2. Or my Google game didn’t work this time.

    3. There is a good chance, Robert George is a closeted gay man.

    It’s happened before many times, i.e. Ted Haggard, or that Reickers guy from Harvard and fundie xian hate organizations. While not all anti-gay bigots are closeted gays, many of them are.

    4. I know a lot of people don’t like drawing conclusions like this from what is basically lack of evidence. But it is odd coming from someone who is big on Catholic Natural Law and Catholic anti-human doctrines. If George really believed what he claims, he should be married and creating a dozen or so little Catholics for god and suffering a lot for the Cosmic Sadists.

    He has a lot of other peculiarities, many of the involving sex. Robert George’s hate and gibberish says a huge amount about him and his warped mind and that is about it.

    PS This is typical of the RCC. The leaders, secular or priestly, are all old, very twisted, and none too bright men. Much like the sockpuppet gods they invented.

  • We shall go on to the end. We shall fight in Fire Island, we shall fight on the Christopher Streets and in the Key Wests, we shall fight with growing desperation and growing frustration, we shall defend our bigotry, whatever the cost may be. We shall fight at the pride parades, we shall fight at the Elton John concerts, we shall fight in the trendy clubs and we shall fight in truck stop restrooms; we shall never surrender.