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Trump’s Latest Train Wreck Interview

Trump’s Latest Train Wreck Interview December 29, 2017

Donald Trump did an interview with the New York Times — you know, the one he hates so much but can’t stay away from — while on the golf course, and without any staff around. It was predictably a train wreck, full of rambling, reality-challenged claims from fantasy land. The Times has a few excerpts up from it:


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The interview started with a discussion of an interview Mr. Schmidt conducted with Mr. Trump in July, when Mr. Trump said he would not have appointed Jeff Sessions as attorney general had he known that Mr. Sessions would recuse himself from the Russia investigation.

DONALD J. TRUMP: I thought it was a terrible thing he did. [Inaudible.] I thought it was certainly unnecessary, I thought it was a terrible thing. But I think it’s all worked out because frankly there is absolutely no collusion, that’s been proven by every Democrat is saying it.

MICHAEL S. SCHMIDT: You’re O.K. with me recording, right?

TRUMP: Yeah. Virtually every Democrat has said there is no collusion. There is no collusion. And even these committees that have been set up. If you look at what’s going on — and in fact, what it’s done is, it’s really angered the base and made the base stronger. My base is stronger than it’s ever been. Great congressmen, in particular, some of the congressmen have been unbelievable in pointing out what a witch hunt the whole thing is. So, I think it’s been proven that there is no collusion.

Proven. You keep using that word. It doesn’t mean anything close to what you think it means. He keeps repeating this “there was no collusion” line over and over and over again, then tries to turn it into the claim that there was collusion between the Russians and Hillary Clinton:

I can only tell you that there is absolutely no collusion. Everybody knows it. And you know who knows it better than anybody? The Democrats. They walk around blinking at each other…Everybody knows the answer already. There was no collusion. None whatsoever…

Let’s just say — I think that Bob Mueller will be fair, and everybody knows that there was no collusion. I saw Dianne Feinstein the other day on television saying there is no collusion. She’s the head of the committee. The Republicans, in terms of the House committees, they come out, they’re so angry because there is no collusion. So, I actually think that it’s turning out — I actually think it’s turning to the Democrats because there was collusion on behalf of the Democrats. There was collusion with the Russians and the Democrats. A lot of collusion…

There was tremendous collusion on behalf of the Russians and the Democrats. There was no collusion with respect to my campaign…

But there is tremendous collusion with the Russians and with the Democratic Party…

I watched Alan Dershowitz the other day, he said, No. 1, there is no collusion, No. 2, collusion is not a crime, but even if it was a crime, there was no collusion. And he said that very strongly. He said there was no collusion. And he has studied this thing very closely. I’ve seen him a number of times. There is no collusion, and even if there was, it’s not a crime. But there’s no collusion.

It’s like he thinks that if he just keeps repeating this same line over and over again, it will magically come true, like saying Beetlejuice three times. And I say that as someone who has said many times that I think it’s unlikely that they’ll ever prove actual collusion before the fact between Trump and the Russians. But I also don’t think that’s really the point of the Mueller investigation.

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