Standing With Israel: how bad theology duped us into supporting terrorism and oppression

Standing With Israel: how bad theology duped us into supporting terrorism and oppression August 16, 2013

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Not many days go by without seeing some sort of “Stand with Israel” image pop up into my Facebook news feed. And, each time it does, my heart grieves over the fact that so many of my fellow Christians have been taken in by this new and dangerous theology, and in so duped into supporting terrorism and oppression… all in the name of God.

I grew up believing that Israel was God’s favorite country (also commonly expressed as “the Jews are God’s chosen people”), and the center of all God’s activity in humanity. Not only were they considered God’s “chosen” people, but we were taught that failing to support the nation of Israel would result in being cursed by God, whether you were an individual or an entire nation. This has caused much of American Evangelicalism to develop a blind love affair with the modern nation of Israel, who they see as the center of God’s past and future activity in the world.

I believe that this theology of the “Church and Israel Distinction” is actually one of the most dangerous and destructive theologies in the world today. It is unlike many of the other “secondary” theologies that are privately held beliefs which do not impact others one way or another. Conversely, this theology is causing a great many Evangelical Christians to embrace violence, condone oppression, support torture, and is actually creating terrorism. Ironically, this theology leads one to support not Godly behavior, but instead embrace behavior that is anything but Jesus-like.

The purpose of this post is to explain why this “pro-Israel” theology is ridiculously unbiblical, and how “standing with Israel” ironically causes one to stand opposed to God. I will give a brief overview of the basic tenants of this theology, the history of how it became popular within American Evangelicalism, why this theology is blatantly opposed to scripture, and why it is a major cause of terrorism in the world today.

Overview & History of Pro-Israel Theology (the Church and Israel distinction)

This theology is premised upon the promise God made to Abraham in Genesis 12, when God said “I will bless those who bless you, and whoever curses you I will curse; and all peoples on earth will be blessed through you.”

2013-07-20 10.03.28From this verse, and other passages from the OT, this theology states that there are two covenants in the world today, one with the ethnic descendants of Abraham and one with everyone else. Essentially, it claims that God has two plans, one for Jews and one for Gentiles. As a result, this theology necessitates that all of the promises God made to Israel in the OT must only be fulfilled via the ethnic descendents of Abraham. This theology, at the core, differentiates God’s plan for humanity based upon race.

Beholders to this theology see the modern political state of Israel as the recipient of the promise God made to Abraham, and as a result, believe that we must unwaveringly support them lest we experience the wrath of God. Such attitudes have become deeply ingrained into Evangelical culture; I recall recently reading a Facebook post of a minister who said he was going to vote for the candidate that was the most “pro-Israel”, and “Stand with Israel” type rallies are quite common in Evangelical churches. Oftentimes in such culture, your level of support for Israel can be used as a litmus test as to how “Christian” you are.

History

For those who grow up in churches that preach the Church and Israel distinction, this theology seems as if it is a normal part of orthodox Christianity, and never gets questioned. However, the truth is that this theology is a new theology and is not part of orthodox Christianity.

This theology was popularized by denounced heretic John Nelson Darby in the 1800’s. Darby is considered the father of dispensationalism, which is a dwindling subset of American Fundamentalism. Dispensationalism is a collection of extra-biblical beliefs (such as the “rapture”) which is typically known by a preoccupation on the end of the world, and a pessimistic worldview. Among Darby’s heresies included this new idea that God had two, simultaneous covenants, one for Jews and one for Gentiles. Sadly, much of Darby’s teachings caught hold in the UK and eventually America, and turned much of American Evangelicalism from an optimistic, social justice focused movement into a pessimistic, end-times movement.

However, Darby’s theology on Israel didn’t really take radical root in American culture until after the political state of Israel was born in 1948. Even then, the theology wasn’t all that popular until end-times writers created an entire new genre of literature in the 60’s and beyond, such as Hal Lindsay and Tim Lahaye. Once their books became popular, this new theology spread with such fervor that many now simply assume it has always been a central part of orthodox Christianity.

But, it hasn’t.

It’s a new theology, and besides being an extremely racist theology, it is a very dangerous and destructive theology as well.

Why It’s Biblically and Theologically Flawed

Yes, it is true that in the Old Testament, Israel was the group of people God set apart and through whom he fulfilled his promise to bless the world. However:

1. The “seed of Abraham” or the descendants of Abraham, have always included those outside ethnic Jews (i.e., converted Gentiles)

The pro-Israel theology is based upon the premise that the group referred to as “Israel” or the “seed of Abraham” was a racially pure group, but this was never true. Beholders of this theology read the OT through an extremely racist lens, even if they are unable to realize such a lens exists. Just a few examples of how Israel was a racially diverse group:

Ex. 12:38 says it included a “mixed multitude” and that Israel included those who were not ethnically of Abraham but who had converted.

The faithful spies in Numbers 32. Only two were faithful, and Caleb was an Edomite.

Othniel, the first judge, was not an ethnic Jew.

Moses was in an interracial marriage with a Cushite.

Rahab was a Canaanite

Ruth was a Moabite

Esther 8:17 describes the inclusion of many other nationalities

Zechariah chapter 2 prophesies that Israel will include even more nationalities in the future.

Simply put, the Old Testament never makes “Israel” an issue of race, as most Evangelicals do, but instead describes a group of people who have decided to follow God. Any person, of any race who decided to follow God, was included in Israel. It was never a race, but a religious community.

2. The New Testament affirms and teaches that the people of Israel are not those Jewish by blood but those who have decided to follow Jesus.

Romans 9:6 “For not all who are descended from Israel are Israel… In other words, it is not the natural children who are God’s children, but it is the children of the promise who are regarded as Abraham’s offspring.”

Romans 2:29 tells us that the true Israelis are not so ethnically, but spiritually:  “A man is not a Jew if he is only one outwardly, nor is circumcision merely outward and physical. No, a man is a Jew if he is one inwardly; and circumcision is circumcision of the heart, by the Spirit, not by the written code.”

However, the “stand with Israel” movement rejects what is plain in scripture, instead insisting that God has a very specific, chosen race of people for which he has a special plan. Instead of the God who is not a “respecter of persons”, this theology creates a god who is severely racist- receiving people not on the basis of their hearts, but on the genetic origins of their DNA.

3. The New Testament teaches us that Jesus created a new humanity.

As Paul says in Gal 3:28, “There is neither Jew nor Gentile, neither slave nor free, nor is there male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus.”

This passage is perhaps as clear as it gets, that there is no longer a distinction or separation between Jews and Gentiles; the previous barrier has been removed.

Furthermore, Paul ever so clearly states in Ephesians:

“Therefore, remember that formerly you who are Gentiles by birth and called “uncircumcised” by those who call themselves “the circumcision” (that done in the body by the hands of men)— 12 remember that at that time you were separate from Christ, excluded from citizenship in Israel and foreigners to the covenants of the promise, without hope and without God in the world. 13 But now in Christ Jesus you who once were far away have been brought near through the blood of Christ.

14 For he himself is our peace, who has made the two one and has destroyed the barrier, the dividing wall of hostility, 15 by abolishing in his flesh the law with its commandments and regulations. His purpose was to create in himself one new man out of the two, thus making peace, 16 and in this one body to reconcile both of them to God through the cross, by which he put to death their hostility.” (emphasis mine)

In this we see, that it was God’s intention to completely remove any separation which once existed between the categories of “Jew” and “Gentile” and that as far as God is concerned, there is a new humanity where all are included together.

However, the Stand with Israel movement rejects these passages, instead insisting that a barrier still exists, where God has one distinct plan for ethnic Jews and a separate plan (covenant) for Gentiles. I can think of no other more racist position that stands opposed to the truth of scripture.

4. Jesus was the fulfillment of the Old Testament, including God’s promise to Abraham.

In fact, even Abraham himself knew this– in John, Jesus tells the religious leaders that Abraham “rejoiced to see my day”. The life, death, and resurrection of Jesus was a blessing to the world more than any other event in all of human history– and this was the fulfillment of God’s promise to bless the whole world through Abraham.

 However, this theology argues that the promises to Abraham have not been fulfilled, and that they will only be fulfilled in the future, via his own bloodline. Such a position completely reduces the purpose and work of Christ, as if it wasn’t enough to fulfill the promises made to Abraham.

While there are many additional theological arguments against this position, it is important to understand that:

(a) This is a very new theology, and is not part of historic, orthodox Christianity.

(b) This is a theology based upon race, even though Israel in the OT was not a pure race.

(c) This is a theology which in many respects, argues that there are two paths to God- one path for the Jews, another for Gentiles.

(d) This is a theology which requires one to completely dismiss countless New Testament teachings which, very clearly state, there is no longer a separation between Jews and Gentiles.

If this were all there was to it, you wouldn’t hear a complaint from me because it would be a relatively harmless theology. However, this is actually a damaging theology that is making the world more dangerous, violent, and oppressive.

2013-07-20 10.08.20Why “Stand with Israel” theology is literally destructive

1.By saying that you “Stand with Israel” you are, by definition, saying that you “stand against” the Palestinian people. Jesus calls us to love our neighbors, not to stand against them.

2. By supporting Israel as she has continually taken land away from the Palestinian people, we have contributed to a massive crisis of refugees without a home. This has led us to stand with the oppressor, not the oppressed, as scripture commands us.

3. By supporting settlement expansions in Israel, we are supporting the Israelis breaking the law. We cannot say that undocumented immigrants in our country need to “respect the law” while supporting Israel’s daily refusal to obey international laws. That is ridiculously hypocritical.

4. This theology requires you to reject the role of “peacemaker” as Christ commanded. Almost every time the US has attempted to broker a peace deal in the middle east, I’ve seen the pro-Israel folks take to the internet to condemn western leaders for making any compromises or dividing any land. I’ve heard preachers say that to obey the Bible (citing Joel) means that we are forbidden from sharing the land with outsiders. In fact, many churches in America actually donate money to help fund these illegal and oppressive settlements. These attitudes do not reflect the love of Jesus, the role of peacemaker, and are not “Christian” attitudes.

5. This theology requires us to oppress other Christians. There are more Christians living in Palestine than in Israel, and when we support violence and oppression against the Palestinians, we are supporting the oppression of our own brothers and sisters.

6. This theology is making the job of missionaries throughout the middle east and Muslim world, more difficult. Because Christians consistently and blindly support Israel, regardless of how oppressive they are towards the Muslim community, we have damaged our witness within the Muslim community. As if missions to Muslims were not difficult enough already, our support of their oppression only adds to the level of mistrust and resentment– making the job of our missionary brothers and sisters all the more difficult.

7. By supporting Israel, we are supporting a nation that is consistently guilty of torturing children and other human rights abuses. According to a recent UN report, over a period of 10 years, thousands of Palestinian children have been kidnapped, tortured, used as human shields, and killed by the Israelis.  In addition, they have also been found to have forcibly sterilized Ethiopian immigrants which has reduced the Ethiopian community in Israel. If these sorts of human rights abuses were happening in any other country, the United States would be pursuing sanctions, or war. However, the fact that this theology has been forced into national discourse as a litmus test for many politicians, we continue to support this abusive nation.

 8. This theology is one of the root causes of the world’s terrorism problem. Why do “terrorists” hate us? Well, it’s not because of “freedom” as many politicians will tell you– it’s actually because of the US foreign policy towards Israel. Israel has become a bully in the middle east, killing and oppressing Muslims without even a hint of accountability from the west. The Muslim world has watched us support a bully, all in the name of our “God”, and it has grown to hate us as a result. This theology is actually creating and fueling terrorism- the same terrorism that caused 911. It has played such a significant role, that I hold preachers like John Hagee as responsible for terrorism as the terrorist themselves.

Really, you ask? Yes. The very powerful evangelical voter block, which largely has been infiltrated by this bad theology, insists that the candidates they support be unwavering supporters of Israel. As a result, US foreign policy towards Israel has been built on bad theology instead of sound reasoning.

Want to curb terrorism? We have to stop blindly supporting Israel and start caring about the rest of the middle east. We have to get people like John Hagee off the air before he incites World War III over bad theology, and little more.

9. Stand with Israel theology is causing church’s in America to funnel money to illegal terrorist activities (expanding Israeli settlements) instead of using that money to help the poor and oppressed. We have been duped into sinning by misusing our money and neglecting the needy among us. In the year 2010 alone, American Christians gave over $100 Million to charities in Israel- funding terrorism and oppression instead of tending to the poor and needy in our own communities.

 

In summary, maybe you or someone you know is caught up into this “pro-Israel” theology. If that’s the case, I would challenge you to consider that such a position is incredibly racist, and if true, makes God a racist too.

You must be willing to consider, that simply because you have been taught this theology your whole life, does not make it true.

God does not have two-plans, one for a specific race of people, and one for everyone else. He has one plan, and his name is Jesus.

While some “secondary” theologies are harmless, this one is not. This theology is a new, and dangerous theology which has created, and is directly responsible for, a great deal of terrorism in our world today.

Embracing this theology, means that one must embrace things that are not of God- violence, oppression, theft, torture…

and we must reject those things.

We must reject this theology.

Should we “stand with Israel”?

Yes…

But ONLY if that also means we stand with Palestinians, Iraqis, Syrians, and everyone else in the world.

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A great documentary on this subject is the movie “With God on Our Side”. You can watch it, here:

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  • nabil89

    Dear sir,

    My name is Nabil Habiby. I am a Palestinian Christian living in Lebanon. I want to reply to your statement “We defend our land against the true terrorist outfits and in return, we are the one made to be terrorists.”

    in 1948 my grandparents and all of my family were kicked out of their homes in Palestine by Zionist militias. Before 1948 Palestine was populated by Palestinians. That is, until Zionist militias (terrorism perhaps) massacred whole villages and made people flee their lands.

    The modern state of Israel has been built by the sword over the blood of the innocent. I recall the words of Jesus: those who live by the sword shall die by the sword.
    Mr. Cohen, we want peace. However, your blatant denial of history will only bring more war.

    Thank you

  • nabil89

    Dear sir,

    My name is Nabil Habiby. I am a Palestinian Christian living in Lebanon. I want to reply to your statement “We defend our land against the true terrorist outfits and in return, we are the one made to be terrorists.”

    in 1948 my grandparents and all of my family were kicked out of their homes in Palestine by Zionist militias. Before 1948 Palestine was populated by Palestinians. That is, until Zionist militias (terrorism perhaps) massacred whole villages and made people flee their lands.

    The modern state of Israel has been built by the sword over the blood of the innocent. I recall the words of Jesus: those who live by the sword shall die by the sword.
    Mr. Cohen, we want peace. However, your blatant denial of history will only bring more war.

    Thank you

  • Lee

    This is a pretty challenging topic to take on! I have long suspected that the conflicts are not all one-sided, although I have not studied this in detail. I am pro-Jewish when it comes to the Jews in this country who seem to be peaceful people. What is going on in the middle east is more complicated. It is difficult to tackle this topic without being accused of being anti-semetic. I certainly am not a fan of the holocaust-deniers.

    Part of the problem is with the idea that the nation of Israel was formed as a fulfillment of end-times prophecy. So therefore anything they do must be right.
    I find it somewhat disengenous when people claim that all the Jews want is the little portion of land that they have now. But Jews believe that ALL of the Holy Land belongs to them. Jews, Christians, and Muslims have fought over this land for centuries.

    It is time to get rid of the idea that all the Judeo-Christian-Muslim religions have that somehow this land is special. And we Christians are not exempt from this attitude either. I am sure that there are many of them who would LOVE kicking the Muslims out of there. And hypocritically, the Jews as well. After all according to them, Jesus is going to kick ALL the infidels’ butts, including the Jews that have not converted. Our ability to get along with Jews is actually a pretty recent thing in history and is not universal by any means.

    I am not quite sure what the answer to the middle east problem is, but I am certain that there is wrong-doing on both sides.

  • Digger

    yes, but coming from a RACIST (author’s words–not mine) your opinion is in opposition to God! (Again, author’s words, not mine.)
    I happen to agree with you. There happen to be loads of verses that refute this man’s writings.

  • Digger

    yes, but coming from a RACIST (author’s words–not mine) your opinion is in opposition to God! (Again, author’s words, not mine.)
    I happen to agree with you. There happen to be loads of verses that refute this man’s writings.

  • eric kurfman

    Actually, reading the Gospel of John, and Romans and Galatians will show you that the author is correct. Most people do not consider that when Jesus himself told the Jewish leaders they were not children of God, had never known God and were in fact children of satan (John 8:31-59) it was a foretaste of Paul’s declaration in Romans 9:6-9 “that they are not all Israel, that are of Israel”.

    In Galatians 3-4 Paul has a much more detailed account of this idea and ends in Galatians 4 saying the PHYSICAL Jerusalem is Hagar. Which is a very interesting turn of events because people jump all over the Muslims for being “sons of Hagar.”

    I read an article by the premier proponent of Christian Zionism and he never quoted one verse from the New Testament. Not one.

    When we allow Israel to what ever they want and blast anyone that criticizes them, we do something God Himself does not do. God’s covenant for the land and blessing of Israel is based completely on the Old Covenant. And God allowed Israel to be punished over and over by other countries because they refused to obey Him.

    There is plenty of information about Jewish destruction of houses, olive groves, towns that have existed for 100s if not 1000+ years. All you have to do is be willing to see it. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_demolition_in_the_Israeli%E2%80%93Palestinian_conflict
    http://theunjustmedia.com/Jewish%20Zionists/The%20Seizure%20of%20the%20Land.htm
    http://rt.com/news/israel-palestinian-homes-demolish-323/

    The truth is many orthodox Jews originally opposed the formation of the modern state of Israel because they believed Messiah would take them back to the land when he came.( http://www.nkusa.org/AboutUs/Zionism/opposition.cfm )

    The point the author was making is not that there are no more Jews in the world. Simply that the Jews are NOT God’s chosen people who have the right to do whatever they want to their neighbors. And that followers of Christ are the true children of Abraham.

  • Lila Wagner

    Just stop and think–are the promises made to Abraham for just those who descended through Jacob/Israel? So many of the children of Ishmael and Esau are the very ones that contemporary Israel has considered enemies. To be really technical, anti-Semitism is a hatred of the Arab and of the Jew, and the conflict of the Middle East is, to some degree, brother-against-brother.

  • savannah26

    David, You’re claiming that “Israel legitimately gained the territories of Judea and Samaria in a legitimate war victory. So the many Jewish communities, or so-called settlements, constructed in Arab occupied Judea and Samaria, the so-called West Bank, are on legitimate Jewish property”?
    LOL!!! You must know that isn’t true, & you’re just trying to bs people who don’t know the facts. Which is not very nice of you. But, let’s pretend you were right, & that there was no such thing as international law, or the UN declaration that it’s unacceptable for ANY country to acquire territory through war. If as you say, the West Bank now belongs to Israel, why haven’t they made it official by annexing it? They’ve been ruling over it (in what is formally termed a “belligerent occupation”) for 47 years & counting. It would seem that Israel doesn’t agree with you.

  • savannah26

    James, You seem to be forgetting or ignoring the millions of Palestinians in the Occupied Territories who are under Israeli rule, but who are not Israelis, when you speak about freedom & human rights.

  • Sergio Malik

    Very sad Article. Author has no idea about the history and true about muslims. I believe Author is one of millions so called “christians” who passive watched/helped Hitler killing millions of Jews and did nothing with excuse Hitler forbite to help jews “obey the law”. Author is one of this “Christians” who did nothing to stop killing jews by Catholics, Lutherans, Nazis, Comunists and Muslims. I think Jews have the Right to have they own land and protect them self from Satanic cult of Islam who’s only Quran desire is to kill all jew. Cose you mister Author of an article will not move a finger to protect jews. Shame on you and God have mercy.

  • Martin

    How exactly does 1 Corinthians 10:32 “blow this article apart” ?

    The context is; causing no offence to people by what we do. He is saying don’t cause ANYONE to stumble. That is CLEARLY and OBVIOUSLY what the text means…. but no, you somehow have managed to turn it into a proof text for your aberrant theology.

    Dispensationalists never cease to amaze me with their sloppy use of scripture.

  • Martin

    Great article. I had some of these ideas floating around when I was a kid. Galatians 3 & 4, totally destroys them.

  • JFI

    I’m a Jew writing from Israel. As such, I can’t comment on the theological issues you raise as a Christian. But I can comment – and vehemently disagree – with your absolutely false and libel filled comments about Israel’s behavior. “thousands of Palestinian children kidnapped, tortured, etc.” By accepting – and circulating – such anti-semitic trash you’ve completely lost all credibility. I don’t mean to say there are not some real issues to deal with here, and Israel is certainly not perfect. But if you wanted to contribute to improving it, this certainly is not the way. I strongly suggest you review that UN Report you quote and speak with some objective scholars who need not be ‘pro-Israel’ to refute such lies. And then you owe your readers a correction and apology.

  • Ruaidrí Ó Domhnaill
  • Robert Mark Wade

    That’s not what I read from that comment at all. The point of the comment is there is a distinction between the people groups. We should not cause anyone to stumble is the point of the passage, however it makes a distinction between people groups. The distinction is not a racist issue, just different types of people.

  • theresa

    Thank you for these thought-provoking ideas on pro-Israel theology and how damaging it is for peace. A fascinating explanation of some of your ideas on point 1, concerning the ethnicity of Israel, is that ancient Israelites thought bloodlines were only passed through the male sperm. Therefore, in the interest of paternity, and because they were a patriarchy, the men had to be Israelites, but the men could have children (and were highly encouraged to have children) by foreign wives.

    These foreign wives, as you may know, were consistently treated poorly and below second class, forced to leave their homes and families as spoils of war and required to perform sexually and reproductively in order to grow a civilization of people who would continue to oppress and conquer their homelands.

    This is often ignored because the men are portrayed as eternally Israelite, whereas the women’s stories (and particularly foreign women’s stories) are downplayed. And clearly, their stories are downplayed in order to make less of the ethnic issue that arose when science figured out that women actually contribute to bloodlines as well.

    This theology was sexist long before it was ever racist. It’s truly heart-breaking to watch these events, and to realize the active role we as Americans continue to play, especially as we see women and children are often the first to suffer and die. Thanks again for your thoughts.

  • Robert Eloi

    Instead of actively participating as George Soros?

  • Agoonga

    Hamas is a terrorist organization. There will be no peace with Hamas. Israel believes in human rights and does not execute homosexuals like the rest of the Middle East does…including Hamas in Gaza. Atheists also. Stoning women..Israel does not do that. I have eyes to see and ears to hear, and a brain to reason. 160 thousand Palestinians have been slaughtered in Syria in the last three years. Also it is Hamas calling for genocide, not Israel. It is in the charter for Hamas. I was so happy to have found your writings, but this is so wrong, and anti Semitic as well…not grounded in fact. It is wrong not because it is not true.

  • temesgen abate

    An ISIS-esque discourse?…i do suggest such nefarious theology is a ruse,rubric,narrative where-in the age-old “segregationists“,“slave-owners“,the confederates in America cocooned.Abraham is a Syrian who took many wives,whose clan went into Egypt and adopted the language of an indigenous but subdued tribe called Eber.Moses transposed and planted the whole theocracy of the Cushites, taught by his father-in-law priest…..but the poetics of all is the blessing uttered by God is not to the“ seeds “of Abraham but to his “seed“. He is Christ…remember “apartheid“ was a construct seamlessly construed along this template…

  • SHALLOW, LITERAL-MINDED PEOPLE MAKE SHALLOW, LITERAL-MINDED CHRISTIANS, I.E. CHRISTIAN ZIONISTS.

    Who are easily led. Because they’re too lazy to read their Bibles everyday, they believe anything that sounds good. Like the restoration of israel in 1948. All the jew-owned media and the jew-owned “christian” ministries continually beat us over the head with this fallacy. In the Bible, the LORD’s not referring to a physical restoration of Israel, but a spiritual restoration. We Christians are the embodiment of that restoration.

    “One of the clearest and most monumental Old Testament prophecies regarding the restoration of the tabernacle may be found in Amos 9:11-12; and in Acts 15:14-17 James clearly teaches that THIS PASSAGE IS BEING FULFILLED IN THE SPREADING OF THE GOSPEL TO THE GENTILES so in sum yes, the bible prophesies of a restored Jewish nation & temple, but then goes on to teach that THIS PROPHECY WAS FULFILLED BY JESUS’ BECOMING THE TRUE AND FINAL TEMPLE OF GOD, and subsequently in his making his people a holy temple in the Lord, where God’s presence might dwell among them, even today.”

    http://www.monergism.com/thethreshold/articles/onsite/qna/restoredtemple.html

    NOW WHY DON’T YOU WAKE YOUR ASSES UP? YOU’RE FOOLS.

    Netanyahu’s Opinion of Christian Zionists : “My opinion of Christian Zionists? They’re scum. But don’t tell them that. We need all the useful idiots we can get right now.” – Israeli Binyamin “Bibi” Netanyahu

    Truthmonger.info: When you get tired of kicking at the goads.

  • Steve

    to the writer of this page. You sir are an idiot, and a disgrace. No wonder the “fundies” kicked you out. They do not care for apostates.

  • Kathy Ruth

    Amazing! So, obeying the command of Jesus the Christ to live your neighbor as yourself-NO EXCEPTIONS, btw!-is a ‘watered down gospel’? What a pathetic person you must be!

  • Kathy Ruth

    Netanyahu is the terrorist leader of a terrorist state! Israel started this mess by forcing the Palestinians out of their homes and off of their farms!
    Not everyone in the U.S. is deceived by the Great Liar!

  • Thumb Billie Mama

    Thank you for this article and the explanation what it is and how recent the theology of dispensationalism is and how it has evolved to be the foundation of our foreign policy. In the future, when discussing the theology of John Nelson Darby’s dispensationalism, could you refer to it as Darby’s theology or Darbyism and to the followers as Darbyites?

  • VictoriaLT

    I am astounded by the tsunami of lies purported in this rubbish!

  • cornwallsteve

    Good to see this being discussed and explained with evidence, and integrity – thanks. We opened a Facebook group to discuss these issues, if anyone is interested. Please do take this post down though if it is trolling (and sorry if so)…

    https://www.facebook.com/groups/315046798609265/?fref=ts

  • Origen17

    Wow – you are stating very boldly what I have known for a long time. Thank you for sharing!

    What is so frustrating is to see the responses below who have bought the lies hook, line, and sinker. They cannot fathom any truths beyond what they “know” to be fact. There facts are that the State of Israel = Israelites of the Bible, therefore anything the State does is absolutely justified, and anyone stating anything to the contrary is obviously anti-semitic. Count them below – almost every third response comes from that point of view (sigh)

  • JBS

    I didn’t see any numbers on the bottom of page 13 of that PDF. It’s important to note that the report you’re referencing is about children caught committing criminal offenses. Along with that, there is no reference that I could see to children used as human shields, kidnapped, etc. I’m not defending Israel for the wrong they do (and there is much) but let’s not destroy all credibility by accusing them of things they don’t do.

  • Dave Garry

    Decent article, and maybe there wasn’t enough room, but nothing about the Talmud, Kabbalah, The TRUE origin of the six-pointed star/hexagram (it’s NOT the Star of David, but associated with Witchcraft and Freemasonry), the Khazar/Ashkenazi origins of most modern “Jews” (they’re not Hebrews/Israelites or even Semitic AT ALL). Rothschild banking family that started Zionism (and adopted the hexagram), or Revelation 2:9, and 3:9 as a second witness regarding the Synagogue of Satan, i.e. counterfeit Jews? Start looking up some of these terms if you’re not familiar, people, the deceptions run deep, really deep.

  • Trevor Spot

    israel is Americas biggest welfare recipient or even gold digging ex wife but DEFINITELY not a trustworthy friend.

  • elkipper

    The UN report included the cases of Israel using kids as human shields, and the numbers are page 9 of that referenced report. And yes, this was talking about kids committing crimes, but for the most part, the crime was a kid throwing a stone, which carried a penalty of 20 years. And you know what, if there were people constantly invading my house, tearing down my farms and houses and building other houses on my families land for them to use, I would be doing a lot more than throwing stones at them.

  • bondservant1

    Unfortunately we as people have an “either-or” mentality. One must pick one side or the other, rather than recognize truth and falsehood exist on both sides. Governments are very good at pushing this because it’s one of the main things that keeps them in power.

    I say this because some of the comments to the article talk about the wrong activities of “the other side,” like Hamas. Those comments are typically correct.
    But that is then used as justification for siding with Israel, even though they are also doing wrong things.

    If truth is what matters, then why are we siding with either one when both are wrong? To what degree each is wrong is irrelevant. But too many believe siding with the lesser of two evils is “right.” I don’t believe this, and don’t believe God teaches us this either. Otherwise why would He have punished biblical Israel for what they did wrong?

    My belief, at least as of now, is that God has allowed the re-creation of current-day “Israel” so that national Israel can repent for rejecting their Messiah. If the prophecy told by Jesus about the fig tree never bearing fruit again (only leaves) is about this situation, then Israel will not repent.

    In the meantime, it might be wise for those of us who call ourselves Christians to stop choosing sides and rather love others the way Jesus did.

  • Terri Knoll

    bordering on blasphemy here

  • bondservant1

    All that said, I would still approach someone with caution who has written for Sojourners. I don’t believe in automatic guilt by association (or we’re all guilty. Oh wait… we ARE all guilty LOL), but rather we should follow the biblical direction to test people to see if they’re speaking truth. Sojourners/ Jim Wallis loves to preach taxing people as a biblical way to help others… I don’t see that being truth at all.

  • Terri Knoll

    actually Jews, Christians, and Muslims lived side by side for centuries before the creation of this “Jewish State”. That’s easily researched. They one day will do so again once the world steps in and stops the apartheid happening now.

  • Mrs. A

    Where did he say “”thousands of Palestinian children kidnapped, tortured, etc.”??

  • Hvraleigh

    There are many verses in the Bible that both imply and pointedly state God restoring the Nation of Israel. For instance: “For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, declares the Lord: I will put my laws into their minds, and write them on their hearts, and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.” (Heb 8:10 ESV). Others; Read Romans chps 9 -11. Whether my understanding of the context is the same as yours in those verses, I do agree the Church is here to glorify Jesus.
    peace,
    HV

  • Brian Parsons

    Thank you Ben. Exceptionally well documented. I can’t tell you how many times I’ve had this conversation with fellow Christians. It is Biblical. AIPAC and this ‘stand with Israel’ mentality is a cancer to Christianity, and we cannot continue mistaking God’s Israel with man’s.

    I have often made the distinction that if we use a broad stroke with Genesis12:3 to mean somehow that we’re speaking only of a genetic line, than through Abraham’s Son Ishmael, we are also tasked with blessing the Arabs. Somehow we conveniently forget that when warring with them.

  • CD

    Thank you Mr Corey for preaching Biblical truth. I believe Israel to mean Christ’s people. I don’t believe scripture meant a nation thousands of years later named Israel. True Torah Jews agree with this as well, hence their persistent picketing to return Israel to the Palestinians. According to the Torah are a people in exile until Christ’s appearance. Having a nation named Israel flies in the face of their theology.

  • CD

    True Torah Jews would vehemently disagree with you. Why are there so many Jews asking for Israel to return the land to Palestinians? I strongly suggest your read UN meeting notes from 1947 to remind yourself and your country of your rightful boundaries.

  • Mickey Wegner

    The Arabs invented a special national entity in the 1960s called the Palestinians, specifically for political gain. They brand Israelis as invaders and claim the geographic area called Palestine belongs exclusively to the Arabs.
    The word Palestine is not even Arabic. It is a word coined by the Romans around 135 CE from the name of a seagoing Aegean people who settled on the coast of Canaan in antiquity – the Philistines. The name was chosen to replace Judea, as a sign that Jewish sovereignty had been eradicated following the Jewish revolts against Rome.
    In the course of time, the Latin name Philistia was further bastardized into Palistina or Palestine. During the next 2,000 years, Palestine was never an independent state belonging to any people, nor did a Palestinian people, distinct from other Arabs, appear during 1,300 years of Muslim hegemony in Palestine under Arab and Ottoman rule.
    Palestine was and is solely a geographic name. Therefore, it is not surprising that in modern times the name ‘Palestine’ or ‘Palestinian’ was applied as an adjective to all inhabitants of the area between the Mediterranean Sea and the Jordan River – Palestine Jews and Palestine Arabs alike. In fact, until the 1960s, most Arabs in Palestine preferred to identify themselves merely as part of the great Arab nation or citizens of “southern Syria.”
    The term ‘Palestinian’ as a noun was usurped and co-opted by the Arabs in the 1960s as a tactic initiated by Yasser Arafat to brand Jews as intruders on someone else’s turf. He presented Arab residents of Israel and the Territories as indigenous inhabitants since time immemorial. This fabrication of peoplehood allowed Palestinian Arabs to gain parity with the Jewish people as a nation deserving of an independent state.
    Historically, Before the Arabs Fabricated the Palestinian People as an Exclusively Arab Phenomenon, No Such Group Existed
    Countless official British Mandate-vintage documents speak of ‘the Jews’ and ‘the Arabs’ of Palestine – not ‘Jews and Palestinians.’
    Ironically, before local Jews began calling themselves Israelis in 1948 (the name ‘Israel’ was chosen for the newly-established Jewish state), the term ‘Palestine’ applied almost exclusively to Jews and the institutions founded by new Jewish immigrants in the first half of the 20th century, before independence.
    Some examples include:
    • The Jerusalem Post, founded in 1932, was called the Palestine Post until 1948.
    • Bank Leumi L’Israel was called the “Anglo-Palestine Bank, a Jewish Company.”
    • The Jewish Agency – an arm of the Zionist movement engaged in Jewish settlement since 1929 – was called the Jewish Agency for Palestine.
    • The house organ of American Zionism in the 1930s was called New Palestine.
    • Today’s Israel Philharmonic Orchestra, founded in 1936 by German Jewish refugees who fled Nazi Germany, was called the “Palestine Symphony Orchestra, composed of some 70 Palestinian Jews.”
    • The United Jewish Appeal (UJA) was established in 1939 as a merger of the United Palestine Appeal and the fundraising arm of the Joint Distribution Committee.
    Encouraged by their success at historical revisionism and brainwashing the world with the ‘Big Lie’ of a Palestinian people, Palestinian Arabs have more recently begun to claim they are the descendants of the Philistines and even the Stone Age Canaanites. Based on that myth, they can claim to have been ‘victimized’ twice by the Jews: In the conquest of Canaan by the Israelites and by the Israelis in modern times – a total fabrication.
    Archeologists explain that the Philistines were a Mediterranean people who settled along the coast of Canaan in 1100 BCE. They have no connection to the Arab nation, a desert people who emerged from the Arabian Peninsula.
    Contradictions abound, Palestinian leaders claim to be descended from the Canaanites, the Philistines, the Jebusites and the first Christians. They also co-opt Jesus and ignore his Jewishness, at the same time claiming the Jews never were a people and never built the Holy Temples in Jerusalem.
    There Has Never Been a Sovereign Arab State in Palestine
    The artificiality of a Palestinian identity is reflected in the attitudes and actions of neighboring Arab nations who never established a Palestinian state. It also is expressed in the utterances and loyalties of so-called Palestinians.
    Only twice in Jerusalem’s history has it served as a national capital. The first time was as the capital of the two Jewish Commonwealths during the First and Second Temple periods, as described in the Bible, reinforced by archaeological evidence and numerous ancient documents.
    The second time is in modern times as the capital of the State of Israel. It has never served as an Arab capital for the simple reason that there has never been a Palestinian Arab state.
    The rhetoric by Arab leaders on behalf of the Palestinians rings hollow, for the Arabs in neighboring lands, who control 99.9 percent of the Middle East land, have never recognized as a Palestinian entity. They have always considered Palestine and its inhabitants part of the great ‘Arab nation,’ historically and politically as an integral part of Greater Syria.
    The Arabs never established a Palestinian state when the UN offered a partition plan in 1947 to establish “an Arab and a Jewish state” (not a Palestinian state, it should be noted). Nor did the Arabs recognize or establish a Palestinian state during the two decades prior to the Six-Day War when the West Bank was under Jordanian control and the Gaza Strip was under Egyptian control; nor did the Palestinians clamor for autonomy or independence during those years under Jordanian and Egyptian rule.
    Well before the 1967 decision to create a new Arab people called ‘Palestinians,’ when the word ‘Palestinian’ was associated with Jewish endeavors, Auni Bey Abdul-Hadi, a local Arab leader, testified in 1937 before a British investigative body – the Peel Commission – saying: “There is no such country [as Palestine]! Palestine is a term the Zionists invented! There is no Palestine in the Bible. Our country was for centuries, part of Syria.”

  • Robert Zeurunkl

    First of all, there is no, and never has been any country of “Palestine”.

    The Jews have not taken any land from the Palestinians. Your beef is not with Israel, but with the United Nations. THEY are the ones who “took” the land that became Israel. There is no country of Palestine, and, ergo, no Palestinians. The land used to be “owned” by Syria and Egypt prior.

  • Melissa Sharon

    Reading this was like breathing fresh air. May the Truth triumph! Thank you so much for this article.

  • Melissa Sharon

    There were people in the land that was taken. They call themselves Palestinians. Many are now refugees. Those in the West Bank and Gaza are under occupation.

  • Alex McCann

    well done, you have argued the toss about whether or not there should be a country known as Palestine – the trouble is that was not the point of the article and you have completely ignored the gist of the article – that theology behind “Stand with israel” is unbiblical – don’t argue the toss about whether or not Palestine exists, you should be discussing whether this theology is Biblical or not

  • “…they [Israelis] have also been found to have forcibly sterilized Ethiopian immigrants…”

    Really? Don’t let the facts get in the way of your suppositions.

    http://elderofziyon.blogspot.co.il/2013/01/did-israelis-force-contraception-on.html#.VQ0mP0boOlo

    Benjamin L. Corey apparently thinks that just because anti-Semitic people say a thing then it must be true. He even adds hyperlinks, oh my. And there can’t possibly be anti-Semitic people at the UN and elsewhere. I read it on “the Internets” so it must be factual. There were even pictures! Sigh.

    Regarding one of the sites he links to, they have at times retracted their statements when they were proved to be wrong due to sloppy reporting, seemingly resulting from a great desire to make Israel look bad at any cost.

  • rojoea

    Abraham was not a Jew, neither were Isaac or Jacob. Jacob, whose name was changed to Israel, had 12 (twelve) sons, who were called “Israel” and the Tribes of Israel. Of the 12 brothers, 1 (one) was named Judah, who later became known as Judahites, Judeans, and Jews. How can the descendants of one son of Jacob, make up, or comprise the whole house of Israel?

  • Tim Brown

    Oh, great. The old “Darby did it” nonsense…but even if we allow that to be the case, covenantalism only has 150 years on dispensationalism.

    Your point?

    Meanwhile, I believe that when God elects, he doesn’t change His mind. I’m not an Arminian, thank you.

    Covenantalism and replacement theology comes from a hermeneutic concocted by Origen, who was influence by Platonic Philosophy. The view was that Scripture was (to put it simply) to “high and holy” to take in its plain sense. So, here began allegorism and symbolism. It was passed on to Augustine, etc. and so we have what J.I. Packer wrote…that “Covenantal Theology is its own hermeneutic”. He said to go through the Scriptures looking for covenantalism and you interpret in light of your assumptions. Holy CIRCULAR THINKING!

    Meanwhile, I think I’ll stick with a *consistent* grammatical historical hermeneutic and let it take me where it will, thank you.

    And I’ll just *believe God* when He promised a wayward Israel in Jeremiah 31:31 and following that He would one day restore them. Oh, and Zechariah 12:10 which states that Israel will one day “look upon Hiim whom they pierced”. Can you tell me when this happened…? Or should I just cut it out of my Bible?

    One more thing… The claim that we believe in two ways of salvation…one for Jews, one for Gentiles…? Sure would like to know who he’s talking about. I don’t know of anyone who believes this.

  • Jeanne Price

    Regarding Israel….

    Joel 3:16 ~ “The Lord shall also roar out of Zion and utter His voice out of Jerusalem.
    The heavens and the earth will shake. But the Lord will be the Hope of His people and the strength of the Children of Israel.”

    Psalm 121:4 ~ “Behold, He who keeps Israel will neither slumber nor sleep.”

    Genesis 12:3 ~ KJV ~ “And I will bless them that bless thee (Israel);
    and curse him that curses thee: and in thee shall all families of the
    earth be blessed.”

    Proverbs 12:3 ~ “As the mountains surround
    Israel, So does the Lord surround His people! It is a terrible thing to
    fall into the hand of the Loving God!”
    The righteous is delivered from trouble, and it comes to the wicked instead!

    Joel 3:2 ~ “Therefore I will enter into judgment against them
    concerning MY inheritance ~ MY people Israel, for they scattered MY
    people among the nations and divided up MY lands.”

    Zechariah 2:8 ~
    “For thus says the Lord of hosts: He sent Me after glory, to the
    nations which plunder you; For he who touches you touches the apple of
    His eye.”

    “If the Arabs put down their weapons today, there would be no more violence.
    If the Jews put down their weapons today, there would be no more Israel.”
    ~ Benjamin Netanyahu ~

    “Peace will come when Arabs love their children more than they hate us.”
    ~ Golda Meir ~

    “It is a commandment in Islam to deceive, for one to “lie” to the
    infidel, to say that he is a Christian…..when he is NOT a Christian.”
    ~ Foreign Minister of Egypt ~

    “I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.”
    ~ Barack Hussein Obama II ~

    Do you get it now?

  • Bobby Lee

    Amen on the scripture quotes. But nowhere in the Bible does it say that the ancient Hebrew Israelites of 1000 BC will become the zionist jews of the 21st century. It didn’t happen. The modern jews are descendants of among others, the Turkish Khazars of the 9th century AD when they converted to jewry. If you screw up on identifying who the real ones are then everything else goes to the dogs from there.

  • Andrew

    WE are Israel!!..Amen, Glory to God!!

  • Andrew

    The evil one has caused the followers of Christ to not realize who they are, God’s Chosen People. The remnant has always been the Chosen One’s. Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, David, Daniel, the prophets, etc., all trusted by faith that the promised Messiah would atone for their sins. The vast majority of the Israelites chose to worship other gods and were not saved.

    John the Baptist, the disciples who were of the House of Israel and the House of Judah, Paul the Apostle, the 3,000 Jews who were saved on Pentecost, etc., all trusted by faith in the atoning work of Christ on the cross. The vast majority of the Jews rejected Him as their Messiah and were lost.

    Today the remnant believes in Christ’s atoning work alone, but the majority of people reject Him and are lost. Jews forbid one another to read the New Testament, so they blind themselves to the truth about their Messiah.

    There has always been a remnant who believed. The only thing that has changed is that Jesus offered His New Covenant, where He put His law in our minds and wrote it on our hearts.

    Everything that was promised to Abraham and his descendents is offered to them in the New Covenant. A remnant has always believed by faith and were saved. The rest tried to be saved by the law and they were lost. That’s true of the Israelites, the Jews, and Gentiles today.

    The promises that were made to Abraham are ultimately to those who believe by faith, not his physical descendents.

    Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, David, Daniel, etc. all believed that the Messiah would come and atone for their sins. We look back on that event.

    Why do Christians focus on Jews in Israel, when the Word of God says that Jesus made both – Jews and gentiles, one church?

    Ephesians 2:14-22 “For He Himself is our peace, who has made both (Jew and Gentile) one, and has broken down the middle wall of separation, having abolished in His flesh the enmity, that is, the law of commandments contained in ordinances, so as to create in Himself one new man from the two, thus making peace, and that He might reconcile them both to God in one body through the cross, thereby putting to death the enmity. And He came and preached peace to you who were afar off and to those who were near. For through Him we both have access by one Spirit to the Father. Now, therefore, you are no longer strangers and foreigners, but fellow citizens with the saints and members of the household of God, having been built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ Himself being the chief corner stone, in whom the whole building, being joined together, grows into a holy temple in the Lord, in whom you also are being built together for a dwelling place of God in the Spirit.”

    Romans 2:28-29 tells us that a Jew is one inwardly, whose heart is circumcised. “For he is not a Jew who is one outwardly, nor is circumcision that which is outward in the flesh; but he is a Jew who is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the Spirit, not in the letter; whose praise is not from men but from God.”

    Romans 9:6-8 says Abraham’s fleshly descendents ARE NOT the children of God. “For they are not all Israel who are of Israel, nor are they all children because they are the seed of Abraham; but, “In Isaac your seed shall be called.” That is, those who are the children of the flesh, these are NOT the children of God; but the children of the promise are counted as the seed.”

    Galatians 3:7 tells us that ONLY those who are of faith are the children of God. “Therefore know that only those who are of faith are sons of Abraham.”

    Galatians 3:16 tells us that the seed of Abraham is Jesus Christ. “Now to Abraham and his Seed were the promises made. He does not say, “And to seeds,” as of many, but as of one, “and to your Seed,” who is Christ.”

    Galatians 3:28-29 tells us that followers of Christ (Jew and Gentile) are Abraham’s seed who receive the promises made to Abraham. “There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is neither male nor female; for you are all one in Christ Jesus. And if you are Christ’s, then you are Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise.”

    Paul is clearly telling us that true Israel, true Jews, believe by faith, and so inherit the promises made to father Abraham.

    “But you are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, His own special people, that you may proclaim the praises of Him who called you out of darkness into His marvelous light.” 1 Peter 2:9

    Everyone who believes in Christ by faith, are the Chosen People of God. They will inherit Holy Jerusalem when Christ returns. The promise is yet to be fulfilled. It has not been fulfilled by Zionist Israel, which was created by the enemy to deceive the world.

  • Andrew

    There never was a country of America prior to 1776 either…so maybe the Natives should just take it back and pen you all up in North Carolina and control everything and everyone going in and out!!

  • Although I appreciate Benjamin Corey’s insights and intention concerning such an important issue, the literal interpretation of the Bible seems to be the root of the problem, especially among fundamentalist/evangelical Christians. Bill Donahue provides a much more enlightened interpretation of the Bible. In the following video he discusses the story of Abraham and Sarah. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dH2bWKPoS_U

  • Origen17

    Please continue to shout this from the rooftops… it is an absolute necessity!

  • Andrew

    Besides..the bible does mention the land of Palestine, so it did exist, just like the land of Israel DID exist..whether they both truly do today or not??…well..if a group of people congregate on a piece of land and want to call it that, who are we to say no?

  • Andrew

    The problem is, “Current day Israel” doesn’t represent jews today that are around the world, despite their claims to the contrary. Jews around the world reject the current state and the leaders representation so who is really sitting in the land called Israel?

    I think MOST Christians are mistaking this Israel, with the one that God HIMSELF will gather when HE returns for HIS PEOPLE (ALL OF US) and will gather ALL OF US into the land He has prepared for us.

    The current Israel is full of Atheists, secularists, muslims, jews, christians…It’s a MISHMASH of races and cultures, only ONE of which can truly be called SAVED.

    To say we must support this nation, means we have to support every evil that comes out of it as well..and I don’t think that sits well with God at all.

    I personally think it’s a complete misunderstanding of what God has spoken, and christendom’s ignorance in this area is being capitalized by people making a joke out them and turning them into the world’s laughing stock.

    Sorry to say, but the Joke will be on Hagee and his cohorts when the end comes. And it won’t be funny.

  • Andrew

    That goes a little bit deeper and may not sit well with many people who are not ready to venture that far down the rabbit hole. I think touching simply the basics of what the scripture says and what we see today is plenty to make people see there is a divide here between reality and today’s “theology”. Those who want to look deeper into the roots may be interested, but it may take time for initial shock to wear off for some

  • Andrew

    Zionism is RACISM…plain and simple.

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  • Vic

    You are wrong. Old world maps show the land and area of Palestine. Easy to look up on your computer. If you read some history, you will find that it was the Jews in America who made a deal with Britain to give then Palestine if they could get the USA to join the war and win. Thus the ” Balfour Declaration. Palestine was not Britain’s to give.

    You said—- The land used to be “owned” by Syria and Egypt prior.
    So, what you are saying is that land was stolen from Syria and Egypt by the modern state of Israel ????
    I never knew that the United Nations are Israel.

  • Daniel

    I get it! you didn’t read what Benjamin wrote. And you didn’t fact check the Barack Obama quote either (here’s a hint: he didn’t say that… someone wrote a lie in an email and circulated it around the web).

    The primary falacy of the “Pro-Israel no matter what stance” seems to be the idea that the “Israel” of the old testament is the same as the “Israel” on the map. One is an ancient ethnic and religious group and the other is a modern day state. They’re not the same same, just as modern day Romans (the inhabitants of Rome) are not the same as the Romans who ran the Roman Empire two thousand years ago.

  • Monica

    The Muslims have always hated the Kafirs, no matter who we supported. Who is a Kafir? Anyone who isn’t Muslim. Jesus said, “Love your neighbors”; Muhammed said, “Cut off your neighbor’s head.”

  • Frog

    Ben,
    Thank you for this article. Well done.

  • I don’t think much of your degrees in theology, because your theology is skewed. It doesn’t matter what you think about Israel’s right to exist as a nation. There never was a nation called Palestine. Palestine is a region, NOT a country and Israel sits right smack dab in the middle of it, both historically and currently. When I look at Israel, wanting nothing more than peace, then I look at how much they have given-up in the name of peace. As I look at your opposition to it in spite of those facts, I see an anti-Semite. In my opinion, Israel should never have returned all the land they conquered in the 1967 6 day war. They were not the aggressor, but they kicked Muslim tail and won. You cannot tell me that they won it all without the help of God almighty. Israel is a tiny nation, yet they kicked how many countries butts? Give me a break if you think otherwise. They never could have done what they did without divine intervention. It is YOU who stand opposed to God himself. You are a fool!

  • Larua

    BS

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  • James C. Higgs

    What hogwash. The theology of Christians supporting Jews is one of compassion. This is a people who have gone through a history of multiple genocides, and suffer the worst sort of racism against them worldwide. To have a Christian say, we do not stand with protecting Jewish people from the inherent racism and genocide they have gone through is disgusting. Jews deserve a home to call their own, and all the better if it is the place where their nation started. Palestine has never been a nation, and is instead a region, and Israel is in that region. Where would you put the Jews, or are you a follower of Hitler’s religion and think we should just allow their extermination? You are an ugly racist pig of a Christian.

  • James C. Higgs

    Yes we should “stand with Israel,” but only if we also stand with “Hitler.”

  • Jed Hell

    I don’t care how many degrees this guy has. He is either a total moron or a straight out liar. Or both. He obviously has no idea who Israel is or where they are at. He has the bible so twisted his mind is obviously been distorted by satan. It’s people like him that are the biggest part of the problems in this world today.

  • Blake

    If a 67 year old genocide of a native people isnt a world problem then I dont know what is and you dont need any degree to know right from wrong. Projection is a defense mechanism that involves taking your own unacceptable qualities or feelings and ascribing them to other people. As for him not knowing who israel is or was…it was a kingdom not of this earth…the worship of God (the church). When Abraham was
    spoken to by God the man known as Israel had not been born yet he was two generations in the future and he was not a state he was a person that
    eventually had a tribe. Then 3000 years later along comes a bunch of Europeans who named a state after him.

  • Blake

    Not at the expense of whose land it is they don’t. Palestinians had nothing to do with the Holocaust. Jews should have been safe homeland in Germany with your “logic”. Palestine was hardly yours to give away or any Christian with compassion as you term it. What about the Christian compassion for whose land it is?! Jewish Christian or Muslim Palestinians.

  • Blake

    Its you who clearly knows nothing about Christian theology and nothing about Christian values morals or ethics. Such an antisocial comment typical of the runts who support this mad dog fake entity occupying Palestine.

  • James C. Higgs

    You do realize that Palestine was not a country, and in 1947 the United Nations mediated an international treaty. The Arab countries would not sign on and so there was a war. The UN plan was internationally ratified in 1948, and Israel became a state. The settlement of Jews began in 1492 when Spain kicked all Jews out of their country. It continued for centuries and by the time the War for independence happened in 1948, after the UN recognized Israel as a state, over 6 million Jews lived within the proposed boundaries. They won the war and a cease fire was signed with all of the neighboring nations. On May 11, 1949 Israel was fully admitted as a member of the United Nations. You act like it was a sudden thing that in 1948 several million Jews dropped in on the Palestinians and took their land. That is completely false. The area was over 80% Jewish before the UN began to set boundaries up and create the Israeli State.

  • James C. Higgs

    The land already belonged to the Jews before the Israeli State was set up. Over 6 million lived in what was Palestine. 80% of the population.

  • Jed Hell

    Well Blake you are right on one point. He has taken all the undesirable and murderous qualities of the moslems and projected them on Israel. You sir are as blind and ignorant as the idiot that write this lying trash. The decendnts of Israel are spread all over this world. The state of Israel is the tribe of Judah. The other tribes are spread around. You can plainly see in the bible if you have a brain at all that it speaks of Israel and the tribe of Judah. It clearly separates them also. So you follow this poor excuse for a human in his lies and see where you end up. For the bible clearly states those who cast away Israel shall be cut to pieces.

  • Blake

    Already belonged to the Jews? Takes a very disturbed mind to believe you have a sense of entitlement to someone elses land. Twilight zone mental illness stuff. As Avigail Abarbanel, an ex-Israeli psychotherapist in Scotland, says Zionism as a mental illness that can be treated. Zionism is just a symptom of a deeper problem, the delusional belief that you have “rights” which do not exist. The inner conflict that arises from these“situational ethics” certainly does create a clinically diagnosable mental inability to process certain types of information that trigger the neurotic or
    sometimes even psychotic defensive reaction.”

  • Blake

    Muslims arent illegal immigrant European racist supremacist oppressors stealing Palestine from Jewish/Christian/Muslim native people. PS I dont read irrational illogical spam. Its like being in the twilight zone.

  • jaj1112

    Mr. Corey has written an exceptional article. Christians are God’s chosen people now. See I Peter 2:9.

  • Lyndon Mathura

    Love your article. Let’s hope we can change Christian view point back to the original scriptures.

  • CD

    Arabs and Jews are Semetic. Please understand what you are referring to when you use the term anti-semetic.

  • rojoea

    Close, but no cigar, Mr. Corey.

  • Mark Ervin Dabney

    Khazarians are NOT semetic – those that make no false claims to own the Holy land are not the problem

  • Expiali

    Where did you get the “6 millions Jews” figure? Check out this link. In 1942, in Palestine, the percentage of Muslims were 61%, Jews 30%, and Christians 8%. The Jews were no more than 500,000, not 6 million as you’ve claimed! http://www.cjpmo.org/DisplayDocument.aspx?DocumentID=18

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    I have always believed that Israel is just a country which has historical significance to Christians. Christ did teach that God is spirit and everywhere, and not solely in the “holiest of holies” as the Jews believe. Christ did come to show the fundamental errors in the beliefs of the Jews of his day, which are no different than today obviously.

  • disqus_ji9pSjd6Xd

    More Christians have been massacred historically than Jews, but we seem to gloss over that!

  • disqus_ji9pSjd6Xd

    Actually, Israel was “created” in the Balfour Agreement after World War I. The U.N. simply ratified that agreement which was made between a Rothchild and a British Lord. Britain “created” modern day Israel in that unholy alliance, which then eventually also indirectly lead to World War II when Hitler wanted them all resettled there, but wanted to collect his “blood money” before he would allow them to immigrate.

  • disqus_ji9pSjd6Xd

    Israel wants peace? Where did you ever get that idea? And there is a big difference between being and anti-Zionist and an anti-Semite, but then the liberals do like to misuse labels and call everyone anti-Semite to deflect from the real issues. And the U.S. has provided them abundantly with nuclear weapons….so what makes Iran’s wish to also defend its country against a nuclear Israel so unbelieveable? Israel has been the aggressor also, and the ’67 expanded Jewish territory beyond what was promised even under the Balfour Agreement – which also stated that no Palestinians were to be displaced if Jews were resettled there.

  • Susan Salisbury

    This is a bunch of list from an anti Semitic non beliver

  • Kate Snyder

    Not even close.

  • vladimirval

    The main reason to support Israel and not the Islamic groups or nations is their core beliefs. The more one reads the bible the more one is reminded of the 10 commandments and to do good, Reading the Koran, one is instructed to hate and attack those not of the Islamic faith. More detailed facts are: In Israel all is open to women.. They can vote, drive, car, get an education, and have the same rights as men. Non of these freedoms are enjoyed by women under Islamic rule. In Syria the government is murdering its citizens indiscriminately without reason and North Koreans are being starved by their government. Iran’s goal is to evaporate Israel and commit genocide on all Jews. Israeli’s neighbors send rockets into day care centers and other civilian areas and their combatants hide behind all of their civilians women, men, young, old, and even the infirm. I rest my case.

  • Blake

    Is that how you debunk the truth? You are either easily brainwashed or are one the European free loading jews who love to get everything gratis

  • Blake

    Oh yeah the white racist privileged ones over the natives & islam is evil and hates us all lark. Get a brain. You look ridiculously stupid.

  • vladimirval

    I am not sure what your true goals is but it appears to me that you are trying to get followers to new movement with you as the leader. Your narcissism is obvious. You think that all others are wrong and you re the only one that is right. That is very reminiscent of one other profit wan-a-be, Mohamed. You are using very standard methods to convince people, such as trying to turn good people against other good people. I do not stand with those that perpetuate hate (enemies of Israel) I do stand with Israel.

  • Dave Garry

    While you’re at it, read the Talmud. In there you will find such “core beliefs” as Jesus was a sorceror and is boiling in excrement in hell, Mary was a whore, it’s ok to cheat goyim (that would be you and me).

  • Dave Garry

    I laugh every time i hear the phrase “anti-Semitic” because the Palestinians and Arabs are truly Semitic while most modern Jews are of Khazar/Ashkenazi extraction and are NOT Semitic in any way shape or form.

  • Lyn

    I think the main problem with the word ‘Israel’ is that we don’t read it in the way God originally used it. Who or what is Israel? Did God call the land Israel or Canaan? Did God call Jacob ‘Israel’ or the land? Was the land ever called Israel in the bible or did it become known as the Land of Israel because the House of Israel (people) lived on it before they were de-possessed of it when they were taken into captivity because of disobedience? Was the land a ‘conditional’ promise according to obedience? Was the land named Palestine by the Romans named Israel in l948 by the Zionists? Was Israel a ‘spiritual’ name given to Jacob because he overcame, repented and believed? Who is Israel today…unbelieving Jews, the land called The State of Israel or believers in Jesus the Messiah/ We have to read the word in context.

  • smg45acp

    Israel is the only democracy in the Middle-East. The people there have more freedom than any other country. Christians and Muslims have more rights than any country in the region.
    Borders change all the time. Countries are invaded and taken over all the time. I could easily list dozens of countries, or part of a country, that have changed hands in the last 200 years.
    The Palestinians should have long moved on and given up on retaking land that they only had recently moved to. Why isn’t there the same intensity to liberate Cyprus or a dozen other countries?
    Yes, the true Israel is the church. My support for Israel has no theological reason, just basic common sense politics.
    The number of lies in this article was breath taking. Lots of pure propaganda mixed with solid theology.

  • Lyn

    smg45acp The Palestinians in Gaza would probably love to move out. I definitely would if I was them but they can’t get out unless they have Israeli citizenship which most are denied. The borders are closed to the majority and only some are allowed through at the whim of the border guards. Many still have the keys to their homes that they cannot return to pre l948. Its all very sad and horrific.

    Just wondering if anyone has read Jer 3: 6-10 ….God wrote the House of Israel a writ of divorce. They were told in Jer 31:31-34 that God had a new plan and a new covenant for them, not the one he made with their fathers. That was the ‘unconditional ‘promise…..Salvation in their Messiah Jesus for those who believed him. After the captivity in Babylon some returned to the land in time to rebuild the city and walls etc and for their Messiah Jesus’ birth, death, resurrection and finally his second coming in judgment of Jerusalem/Mystery Babylon the Great/Mother of Harlots in 70AD and for the salvation/rescue of the believers and the resurrection of the Old Covenant Israelites who had gone to their rest/Hades/Sheol who were waiting for Jesus Resurrection and their Blessed Hope. That was the End of the Old Covenant spoken of in the New Testament. All prophecy concerning the land, jewish nation has been fulfilled. We are now living in the New Covenant/Jew and Gentile as one in Christ.

  • vladimirval

    Mr. Cory, let’s have reality check. You like the Islamists and other enemies of Israel seem to be stuck in a time long past. You might want to get your nose out of the past and get a life. Who ever was the adversary of my ancestor 2000 years ago is not my enemy today. My enemy today is the some enemy determined to eradicate Israel and commit the genocide of millions of people (non Islamists), me included. The people of Israel started out in a desert with nothing except a thin stretch of sand. They built a prosperous nation making huge contributions to man kind in many fields including medicine, technology, industrial & agricultural advances, and many more. All they want form their neighbors is to acknowledge their right to survive in peace. The Arabs around them inherited around ten times the land, some with natural resources (oil). Their leaders have kept them in poverty feeding them hate. Their economy has never raised above a low third world status. The millions of dollars they received lined their pockets and much went to purchase arms and other material for war. They hide behind their people using them as shields as they attack Israeli civilians with rockets, suicide bombers, and snipers. Their only contribution to the world has been how to propagandize and lie to everybody including those helping them. You probably won’t agree but to me picking Israel to support is very simple and clear decision.

  • vladimirval

    I do nit wish to be part of this discussion any further. .

  • Salonpas

    Ironically, the comments below just prove how true this article is.

  • christy

    I totally agree with your observation of this mans article. Does GOD call men into the ministry to debate the Bible with other believers or does God call men to reach the lost? Seems a pointless waist of time when time is so short! Read and obey……that all we have to do. We don’t have to understand completly…….just trust and obery! Men want to dig into the Bible and try to twist and turn it in every which way but wont obey the obvious and very clear stuff. I like digging but I first must be willing to just obey the simple very clear comands of God. God means what he says and says what he means. Its not all mistry and puzzles. Its acturally very simple! I dont need someone to tell me that what God said isn’t what he really means. Then I’m putting my faith in that mans word not Gods word. God will give understanding of the more complicated when we grow in faith.

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  • Terri Knoll

    Great article. Thanks for sharing the information. May people have ears to hear. I first learned from Palestinian Christians and that started my journey to the truth. blessings!

  • Bizzy Bee

    I do not agree with this article and the lies therein. Also, if he believes and stands with the UN (Which was started and funded by Lucius Trust ~YES, as in LUCIFER), then he is being led completely astray! Do your research on where you get your information and who is pushing what agenda.

  • Drackin

    What lies? You make an accusation but don’t provide any details, much less proof.

  • Patriot1776

    National Israel was created by Rothschild on Aug 29th 1897 per historical document. He’s an Ashkenazi Jew (fake Jew). Samuel Maitland found the book on Futurism in the CoE library and gave a copy to Edward Irving (CoS) – father of dispensationalism. JN Darby was a comtemporary and formed the Plymouth Brethren and came to USA in 1830. The flag is Rothschild’s family flag and per Amos 5:26 the star of the false god. Real blood-line Jews have always opposed Nat’l Israel and the hexagram flag or star of Satan.

  • Mare’lue Turner

    To read the complete commentry below, follow this link:

    https://aryanisrael.wordpress.com/2013/12/29/who-are-the-jews/

    There is a common misconception that today’s ‘Jews’ are in some way the descendants of the biblical children of Israel. This could not be more wrong and can be demonstrated in a variety of ways from credible sources. Jesus was also not a Jew, although he is commonly misidentified as such.

    Jesus was a Galillean living in the Roman Protectorate of Judea, where up to five different peoples lived at different times, all commonly known as Judeans, after the land of their nativity and not due to their actual genetic heritage. Jesus’ lineage through his mother was of the tribe of Judah, making him a ‘Galillean Judahite’.

    Today’s Jews very biology itself proves that they are not God’s chosen people from the Bible and cannot possibly be the children of Israel, in either a physical or a spiritual sense. The Edomite connection is also confirmed in the Jewish encyclopaedia where it says that ‘Edom is in modern Jewry’.

    If I can find out about this I am sure that the Rabbis are also aware, that they are hated by God for violating the laws of his creation. Their hatred and resentment of those who have kept the laws of nature and are loved by God, is as old as they are, from way back when Esau, the father of Edom, married Canaanites to spite God and consigned his offspring to the same fate.

    This is reflected in their aggressively promoted race mixing agenda for everyone else, that forms a part of all government policies, education and mass-media, in the countries where Jews are vastly over-represented for their small population percentage, in government, education and the mass media.

    The ten tribes are not ‘lost’, they are the European nations of today.

    Aryan Israel

    The true descendants of Israel are now called by a new name, just as it said in the Bible they would be. That name is Anglo-Saxon, Anglo from Angel, denoting descent from Seth and Saxon from Isaac’s son. Their migration to Europe can be traced through the Israel pass in the Caucasus mountains and is written about in various Apocryphal books and contemporary Greek and Roman sources, as well as being referenced in the Bible. This explains the Hebrew roots of the English language and the Hebrew place names that predate Christianity, as well as the Mesopotamian names of some of the European pagan deities and festivals.

    Today the Roman Catholic church calls the Jews the ‘elder brother in faith’ when in reality they are the elder brother who rejected the faith, the law and the birth-right, and has been covertly at war with us ever since.

    John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave
    his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not
    perish, but have everlasting life.
    17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.
    18 He that
    believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is
    condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only
    begotten Son of God.

    PLEASE TAKE NOT THAT THE SPIRITUAL ISREAL IS THE BRIDE OF OUR SAVIOUR JESUS CHRIST.

  • ATrober

    Yes, Hagee has mis-identified Israel.

    The crux of the matter is “the Jews” are ***not*** Israel. They are ONE TRIBE in the entire nation.

    (Fwiw, you’ve made the jump from ‘descendents of Abraham’ to ‘Jew’ like mainstream Christianity does…which is in error. And, easy to see it’s not the case with a review of Genesis and the lineage. The Jews are Judah. That’s it.)

    Today’s political state of Israel is primarily the Jews. THE REST OF THE NATION IS AT LARGE ELSEWHERE IN THE WORLD. (And, probably so inter-married it’s a moot point to even go looking for them genetically, physically, etc.)

    But, you are correct that today’s “Jew” is not of physical lineage, rather a spiritual label … those who’ve accepted Christ. That is EXPLICIT in Romans, no guesswork).

    Ask Hagee about it. He won’t address it. ;-)

    Per inter-racial references in your article: EVEN THE BIRTHRIGHT COVENANT was given to half-Israelite/half-Egyption. Joseph retained the birthright, and his sons were Ephraim and Manasseh — of an Egyptian wife to Joseph.

    For there is no difference between Jew and Gentile–the same Lord is Lord of all and richly blesses all who call on Him Roman 10:12

    or,

    there is no Gentile or Jew, circumcised or uncircumcised, barbarian, Scythian, slave or free, but Christ is all, and is in all Col 3:11

    or, just follow the entire lineage (which is in the Bible for a reason ;-)

    The PHYSICAL nation of Israel (again, 12 tribes) WAS IN COVENANT WITH GOD TO NOT REFUSE A FOREIGNER AS PART OF THE COVENANT.

    Point: even the Old Covenant models exactly what God was going to do with the New Covenant: ANYBODY willing to come is welcome.

    That is, EVEN THE OLD COVENANT wasn’t based on physical lineage, but rather profession to the Living God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. (That model was given for a reason: of the New Covenant to come).

    Last point, Romans also states those saying they are Jews (largely physical descendants, will come to accept Christ in the latter days….ironically, making them Jews per God’s reckoning).

    Stand by Israel? Absolutely, 100%. But, in truth. Not some shadetree theology. Hagee can’t even defend his position scripturally, other than to the illiterate in scripture.

    Hagee’s often-quoted “any nation that supports Israel shall be blessed, any nation that does not shall be cursed” (a somewhat corrupted Gen 12:3) ACTUALLY MEANS THOSE IN SPIRITUAL RELATIONSHIP TO JESUS CHRIST.

    No better example than the U.S. today which has kicked the Living God out of its nation starting explicitly in the 1960s up to now. We’re reaping half a century of that, which is too slow for fast-food minded Americans to grasp. But, it is exactly what is meant by that reference, not the political State of Israel. (Who wasn’t even called “Israel” at the time God said that).

    God has a place for the political State of Israel, but it’s not what Hagee claims. And, God doesn’t need any other nation to fulfill that purpose. Jerusalem is where Jesus Christ will reign over all nations.

    Thanks for the post.

  • ATrober

    …it is a moot point to bring physical lineage into the topic concerning Jew:

    :-)

    scripture explicitly states physical lineage reckoning of who a Jew is was done away with:

    For not all who are descended from Israel are Israel. Nor because they are his descendants are they all Abraham’s children. On the contrary, “It is through Isaac that your offspring will be reckoned.In other words, it is not the children by physical descent who are God’s children, but it is the children of the promise who are regarded as Abraham’s offspring. Rom 9:6-9

    Or, backup to the ***context*** of Romans, which happens to address the very topic of who is, and is not, a Jew:

    A person is not a Jew who is one only outwardly, nor is circumcision merely outward and physical. No, a person is a Jew who is one inwardly; and circumcision is circumcision of the heart, BY THE SPIRIT, not by the written code. Such a person’s praise is not from other people, but from God.

  • ATrober

    His article is correct. The political state of Israel today is not “Israel” in the Bible.

    God is not going to contradict His own word: Israel is a spiritual people who’ve accepted Christ. And, its so pervasive in scripture to say otherwise only appeals to the Biblically illiterate.

    Hagee misuses that reference, and it is causing a lot of trouble in the world through heresay, not Holy Spirit-led preaching.

  • Bones

    It seems you hate Jesus and the prophets who criticised Israel.

    I must commend Israel for it’s tolerance of homosexuals.

    If only they were as tolerant of Christian Arabs….

    Btw who did Israel beat in a war?

    They got their arses kicked by the Assyrians, Persians, Babylonians, Greeks, Romans……

    Haven’t you heard of the Bible?

    Oh and before partitioning Jews and Arabs got on quite well.

  • Voces

    We dont need nobody to tell us to dislike Israelis zionist, the Israelis zionist are doing that very well

  • Jeanne Price

    I stand with Israel <3

  • Mike

    There were 11 other tribes. They are still around and they practice other religions. Judaism is not the religion of Abraham. Judaism is the religion of Ben Zakkai. It was created in the town of YavNeh with the permission of the Roman authorities after they destroyed the temple. The Jews are not israel. All of us are israelite to varying degrees and none of us practice the religion of Abraham or Moses.

    The value of israel has a;ways been it’s location. Anything going between the Mediterranean and the Red Sea has to pass over it and and can be charged for transport. Whoever controls that real estate can make money by tolling those who need to pass through it.

  • Blake

    Says an apologist for the evil occupier & oppressor of a native Non Jewish population. Can you see how you project yet?

  • Waykent

    You made the following statement: “To be sure, the rogue terrorist and welfare state of Israhell deserves
    the world’s universal condemnation and hatred for its endless mass
    murders, but when you invoke the demonic mob cry of “white racist
    privilege,” you lost the privilege of being treated as anything other
    than a savage, barbarian, wicked fool.”

    Where is Israhell?

  • Waykent

    You made the following statement: “The ethnicity of the inhabitants of pale sine for the last 1,900 years
    has ben Palestinian. Nations come and go. Ethnicities are what are
    relevant here. Of course you already knew that but seek to confuse,
    don’t you?”

    Where is pale sine?

  • Waykent

    You made the following statement: “Khazars posing as Jews are NOT Semitic in the least! Get your facts straight!”

    Please provide proof.

  • Waykent

    You made the following statements: “Those occupying Palestine under false pretenses are NOT Semites. They are Turko-Mongolian Khazar impostors posing as Jews.”

    Please provide proof.

  • Waykent

    You made the following statements: “The true descendants of the 12 Hebrew tribes are whites or Caucasians.”

    Many Israelis are Caucasian. Ergo, if the 12 tribes ever did exist, then many Israelis are their descendants.

  • Waykent

    You made the following statement: “I am a white born again follower of Christ. That makes me a Hebrew of either Israel or Judaea.”

    Please provide proof.

  • Waykent

    You made the following statement: ” Israel of the Bible is NOT the rogue terrorist state of faux Israel.”

    Where is faux Israel?

  • Waykent

    You made the following statement: “Jews hate all non-Jews and seek to exterminate us if they can get away with it without bringing shame to the “jewish” community.”

    Please provide proof.

  • Waykent

    You made the following statement: ” The rogue terrorist state of faux Israel perpetrated the false flag attacks of 9/11 and the 1967 attack on the USS Liberty.”

    Please provide proof for the former. Everyone knows Israel was responsible for the attack on the USS Liberty. Ergo, it was not a false flag attack. Ergo, you are a liar.

  • Waykent

    You made the following statement: “The Khazar impostors posing as Jews who stole the land of Palestine from
    the Palestinians under false pretenses and who created the lie of the
    holohoax will soon burn in eternal torment in the burning lake of fire
    for their endless demonic cruelties to others.”

    Please provide proof.

  • Waykent

    You made the following statement: “6 million is ALWAYS the figure the Khazar impostors posing as Jews have
    claimed ever since WWI! It fits with their 666 demonic false narrative.”

    What does World War I have to do with anything?

  • Waykent

    You made the following statement: “Is it any accident that the holohoax, which never happened, claims the same 6 million figure which withers under the most rudimentary of examination? No it is not.”

    Please provide proof.

  • Waykent

    You made the following statement: “Thanks to the genocide and ethnic cleansing of 800,000 Palestinians for which the Khazars posing as Jews are so well known for.”

    Please provide proof.

  • Waykent

    You made the following statement: “To add insult to injury, the holohoax never happened.”

    Please provide proof.

  • Waykent

    You made the following statement: “The Khazar impostors posing as Jews who were the true victors of WWII
    concocted that lie to perpetrate their fraud on the rest of the world
    since then to appeal to our sympathy and pity of the guilty.”

    Please provide proof.

  • Waykent

    You made the following statement: “A “jew” never tells the truth.”

    A Jewish grocer once asked me if I would have liked to buy one of his fresh red apples on sale. The apples were fresh, red, and on sale. Ergo, he told the truth. Ergo, you are lying.

  • Waykent

    You made the following statement: “The holohoax never happened, so save your crocodile tears for the 142 –
    259 million victims of Khazar (impostors posing as Jews) atrocities in
    Russia, China, Vietnam and Cambodia during the 20th century.”

    Please provide proof.

  • Waykent

    You made the following statement: “Your lies and deceit make God want to vomit.”

    You claim the Earth is flat. You are a Holocaust denier. Ergo, your lies and deceit make God want to vomit.

  • Waykent

    You made the following statement: “The Khazar impostors posing as Jews are the most despicable religious
    cult of Satan to every inhabit the planet. Jesus identified them as the
    synagogue of Satan at Revelation 2:9 and 3:9. God never lies.”

    Those passages make no mention of Khazars. You are lying.

  • Waykent

    You made the following statement: “Hitler, as the court historians of Talmudic Judaism depict him to us in
    their endless propaganda, is a total lie and distortion of sick and
    depraved “jewish” minds.”

    Claiming Hitler never existed is a lie. Ergo, your lies and deceit make God want to vomit.

  • Waykent

    You made the following statement: “Let us cut off all $3.5 billion of annual foreign aid to this enemy of
    America immediately and let us try any Congressman or Senator who
    opposes this for treason and crimes against humanity for the hijacking
    of America by these vile extortionists and psychopaths.”

    Why?

  • Waykent

    You made the following statement: “Those who stole the land of Palestine from the Palestinians are
    Turko-Mongolian Khazars posing as Jews who secretly follow the hideous
    and vile anti-Christ teachings of the Babylonian Talmud and serve the
    devil.”

    Please provide proof.

  • Waykent

    You made the following statement: “Truth matters not one whit to you, does it?”

    You claim the Earth is flat. You are a Holocaust denier. Ergo, truth does not matter one whit to you.

  • Waykent

    You made the following statement: “We
    are in the last year of the great tribulation of Matthew 24 and Daniel
    12 of end times Bible prophecy and very few are even aware of it. God
    has sent strong delusion of the majority of the world so that they will
    believe a lie, and be damned, for rejecting the truth and delighting in
    unrighteousness, as 2 Thessalonians 2:10-12 predicted would happen now.”

    Please provide proof.

  • Waykent

    You made the following statement: “Khazar impostors posing and Jews have no Semite blood or DNA in them except via inter-racial marriage.”

    Please provide proof.

  • Waykent

    You made the following statement: ” Whites are the true descendants of the 12 Hebrew tribes and of Noah’s Son Shem.”

    Noah never existed. Ergo, Whites are not the true descendants of the 12 Hebrew tribes and of Noah’s Son Shem.

  • Waykent

    You made the following statement: “YHWH (God of the Bible) has damned both America and the rogue terrorist
    state of faux Israel to eternal torment in the burning lake of fire and
    brimstone. Let it be so! There is nothing good in either nation of
    treachery, deceit and betrayal.”

    Please provide proof.

  • Waykent

    You made the following statement: “Both Judaism and Islam are demonic and serve the devil, the hater of all mankind, and father of lies.”

    Thank you for admitting God is the Devil.

  • Waykent

    You made the following statement: “The rogue terrorist state of Israel is a damnable lie from top to
    bottom. Anyone claiming to be a follower of Christ who is not outraged
    by the fraud, endless corruption and wickedness of both Israel and
    America is a self-deceived fraud bound for eternal torment in the
    burning lake of fire and brimstone.”

    Please provide proof.

  • Waykent

    You made the following statement: “One year from now Christ returns to gather the elect. Shortly
    thereafter, all hell breaks loose on the wicked earth dwellers left
    behind.”

    You have violated Matthew 24:36. Ergo, you are a false prophet.

  • Waykent

    You made the following statement: “God is fuming with rage and fury right now at the utter deceit, betrayal
    and treachery of our leaders in all spheres of human endeavor. He’s
    giving them all plenty of rope to hang themselves.”

    Please provide proof.

  • Waykent

    You made the following statement: “Those who are guilty of the false flag attack of 9/11 and the 1967
    attack on the USS Liberty (the rogue terrorist state of faux Israel)
    have nothing good in them. Period.”

    You are a Holocaust denier. Ergo, there is nothing good in you.

  • Waykent

    You made the following statement: “Evil impostors from the land of Khazaria stole the names Israel, Semite, Hebrew and Jew from their rightful owners.”

    Please provide proof.

  • Waykent

    You made the following statement: “The fraud is quite simple.”

    Belief in a flat earth is a fraud that is quite simple to disprove. You propagate the belief in a flat earth. Ergo, your fraud is quite simple.

  • Waykent

    You made the following statement: “Israel is guilty of the false flag attack of 9/11 upon America.”

    Please provide proof.

  • Waykent

    You made the following statement: “They follow the occult teachings of the Babylonian Talmud of orthodox Judaism and worship the devil.”

    Please provide proof.

  • Waykent

    You made the following statement: “Do your own research as I have. It will make the blood in your veins freeze.”

    If blood freezes, it dies. If you lose blood, you die. You are alive, so your blood did not freeze. Ergo, you are a liar.

  • Waykent

    You made the following statement: “Wake up to reality!”

    You claim the Earth is flat. You are a Holocaust denier. Ergo, wake up to reality.

  • Waykent

    You made the following statement: “The “jews” are not even one of the 12 Hebrew tribes. Instead, they are the thirteenth tribe of Arthur Koestler’s 1976 book by that same name. They are Turko-Mongolian Khazar impostors with no Semitic blood posing as Jews, revealed to us by Jesus in Revelation 2:9 and 3:9 as the synagogue of Satan, a.k.a. the Antichrist of these end times.”

    The work of murderers is not to be trusted.

  • Harry Cooter

    Ergo, you are a moron.

  • Harry Cooter

    Please provide proof.

  • Harry Cooter

    Ergo, the truth is that you are a moron.

  • Bill30097

    Total nonsense contradicted by the Bible

  • Bill30097

    By defending themselves against Terrorist scum? You are an idiot.

  • Bill30097

    You are a phoney who has never read the Bible or you would not have asked such BS questions. You are a liar.

  • Bill30097

    Pure lies and bullshit

  • Bill30097

    You are anti-Semitic Satanic scum

  • Bill30097

    You are the fake, liar

  • Bill30097

    liar

  • Bill30097

    Read the Bible and you will see this article as all lies

  • Bill30097

    Article is BS

  • Bill30097

    bullshit

  • Salonpas

    Oh God, you’re so intelligent, I’m not smart enough to deal with your world-class argument.

  • Waykent

    I have Jewish friends. I fully support Israel’s right to exist. How am I anti-Semitic?

  • nathan

    Could you cite to any specific verse? It seems like you are the one who needs to read the Bible. I don’t see how anyone can read the NT and think that God still has a separate covenant with the Jews.

  • Bones

    Meds must have worn off hey.

    Or has Mum quickly allowed you on the computer.

  • Drackin

    Once again, clarification of your accusation is required. Or, seeing as how you are just posting “Liar” or “BS” or going ad hominem and calling people anti-semitic, I’m betting you’re the one full of BS. Without the truth, all you can do is attack others and try to blame them for your own shortcomings. It’s sad really. But what’s even more sad is that so many people fall for lies like that. They end up being mislead and supporting the murderous apartheid regime of Israel.
    How does it feel doing the Devil’s work?

  • Mike

    If you are relying on the Bible then you know that israel was a confederation of tribes not just the tribe of Judah

  • Excellent work here. Very helpful.

    Interesting to note how some people respond with vitriol. We have noticed this as a regular pattern when you dare to challenge the status quo in this issue.

    Thank you.

  • Alex weston

    What a fucking retarded propaganda piece. This is the perfect example of using half truths to spread lies.
    First of all, enough with this bullshit that Israel or America’s support of Israel is the cause of Muslim or global terrorism. Does the fact Boko Haram are murdering people in Nigeria have anything to do with Israel or America? Does the fact that ISIS is killing Yazidis have anything to do with Israel? Does the violence between Shiites and Sunnis have anything to do with Israel? The answers to all of these questions is an unequivocal NO.

    Israel is the one country in the Middle East where Christians, Muslims and Jews have the same rights. There are more Christians in Israel than in “Palestine”. Christians in Muslim majority countries are being oppressed and considered second class citizens (Iran or Saudi Arabia for example).

    “Israel has become a bully in the Middle East” Really?? Does Israel engages in wars with any countries? How about the recent revolutions or the current violence in Yemen. Where it’s Iranian proxies vs. Saudi forces. Or the war in Iraq or Syria. Does Israel meddle in any of this? again the answer is NO

    There are many more bullshit arguments like Israel “sterilizing” Ethiopian Jews which is a complete lie as the Israeli government has continuously acted to bring Ethiopian Jews to Israel (Google Operation Moses)

    Bottom line is don’t believe any word this idiot is saying!

  • ericCD

    Totaly agree with Corey – ever since I read Ian Murray’s “the Puritan Hope” I’ve been convinced that dispensationalism was a dangerous “modern” (19th century) heresy that began by seperating believers from evangelical churches, taught a speration from the world that diverted them away from social concern and action, and was so pessimistic it hindered revival.

  • Robert Hunt

    Two notes: First: Lineage arguments are more complex than this blog allows. In Romans Paul wrestles with the enduring quality of God’s promise to Israel (the people) and God’s new covenant with the Gentiles. Moreover modern Judaism, rabbinic Judaism, emerges after the time of Jesus and Paul so that the relationship between Israel and the land becomes far more complex and is no longer simply related to promises made to Abraham and his descendants. In short, there is no effort in the blog to understand how modern Jews as Jews and as Israelis understand themselves. Objectifying them, which Christian theology does reflexively, is oppressive whether it comes from supporters or critics of Israel. Secondly, all efforts to oppose oppression and terrorism are weakened by hypocrisy it is true. And to support Israel (in light of a failure to support others whose national life and identity are threatened such as the Palestinians) certainly is hypocritical. Yet terrorism doesn’t have a single cause. It is a child of our times and not a specific provocation. With or without Israel the United States and other colonial powers (China for example, and some ethnic or religious regimes such as those in Burma or Pakistan) create a deep sense of threat and thus a deep loathing among many peoples across the globe. Combine this with ready arms and training from strategic enemies of US power (Iran for example, but not merely Iran) and you get terrorism. Of course its more complicated than even that. Thus while we need to get it right with regard to Israel (the nation), getting it right isn’t going to solve the problems this author thinks it will solve.

  • Steven Esses

    Actually, the Bible prophesied that Judah and Ephraim (the ten breakaway tribes making up the kingdom of Israel) would be united in one rod (Ez 37:19). All the exiles returning from Babylon were called Jews thereafter, regardless of tribal affiliation. Paul was a Benjamite, and Barnabas was a Levite, but they are referred to as Jews, and members of the Levite tribe are still called Jews today, even with Levitical names such as Cohen, Rappaport, Katz, and Shapiro (and their variants).

  • Steven Esses

    The conversion of the Khazars is depicted in the medieval work by Judah ha Levy, the Kuzari. 70% converted to Judaism, the rest to Islam and Christianity. There are many ethnic groups who became Jews, including Ethiopians, Chinese, Greeks, and Arabs. The Ashkenazi Jews are not some isolated racial group, but they in fact, share genes with Mizrahi, Sephardim, and other Jews who are considered more genetically pure. What is more significant is that the religious practices are virtually the same as the Eastern Jews. There are significant cultural differences, but they are not imposters, and they do have Semitic blood in them.

  • mdgaz

    It’s you who is dangerous. You should be committed.

  • Mike

    The alleged existence of the twelve tribes come from the Bible. It is generous for me to even cede that point. You can’t prove they existed. Biblical references are not proof so spare me.

  • Funz

    GA GA GA GOY!!!

  • Michael Monikowski

    I do not know which documentary it is which you, Benjamin, wrote about and gave a link to. This link does not work and there are different documentaries under the title “With God on Our Side”. Here is the first part of one of them. Would it be the one?
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=daBySU9VHD8&list=PL34A1ADEC804B1614

  • injunear1

    Which law is being broken by Israel since it is God who gave Abraham all the land farther than his eyes could see? Do you not take the Word seriously yourself? I don’t condone indiscriminate removal of Arabs( no such thing as a Palestinian, or Palastine) but Israel does have a right to remove criminals. Obviously, history sn’t your strongest point, at least when it comes to biblical matters.

  • Yvonne Hooks Harrell

    Everything he wrote went right over your head, didn’t it?

  • Yvonne Hooks Harrell

    Oh my. Most of you are just too indoctrinated to even consider anything else. No hope.

  • Patriot1776

    In Isaac will they seed be blessed and along came Jacob whom God changed his name to Israel a people – not a nation. In 1825 Samuel Maitland discovered Cardinal Belleramine’s book on futurism and gave a copy to Edward Irving in 1827 who began preaching and teaching that false doctrine. In 1830 both Irving and Darby visited Margret McDonald and the dispensational doctrine was added to Belleramine’s futurist doctrine. Darby went to Ireland and formed the Plymouth Brethren with 70 disgruntled Catholics and brought Irving’s doctrine of dispensationalism to USA. Christians are the children of Abraham and the true Jews per Romans 2:28-29. Ironically; Semitic Jews or bloodline Jews are not a part of National Israel that Rothschild created on Aug 29th 1897 per the documented history of National Israel. Also documented by Germany and Switzerland.

  • profwatson

    Christians today are sadly ignorant over the nation of Israel. Jesus told the Jews, “Ye are of your father the devil.” Yet, Christians will not accept what Jesus said. Jesus told the Jews, “Your house is left desolate.” But Christians protest, “No! This is not true. The House of Israel is not left desolate. It is blessed.”

    Jesus warned of the “Synagogue of Satan,” made up of “Them which say they are Jews and are not.” Yet Christians deny the very existence of the “Synagogue of Satan.” They say that Judaism is a fine religion that does not fit the mold of a “Synagogue of Satan.”

    The Seed of Abraham is Christ and His elect.

    “Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ.” Galatians 3:16

    “For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ. There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus. And if ye be Christ’s, then are ye Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise.” Galatians 3:27-29

  • The Unapologetic Truth

    WHAT a GREAT article! I remember as a teenager reading the parable about “the wide road that leadeth to destruction” and I wondered to myself, how could so many people become so duped? Well watching people who claim to be Christian slavishly support a regime of apartheid, injustice, brutality, land theft and overall HATRED exhibited by Israel, not just against the Palestinians, but seemingly against the entire world outside of themselves has regrettably proved is indeed possible.

    Any so-called Christian who approves of this dark stain against all of humanity is effectively putting one line out of the bible on a balance scale versus the entire message of the Holy Spirit and calling it even…well it isn’t even, not even close.

    Jesus saw their ancestors for exactly what they were in John 8:44, and their every behavior supports Jesus declaration that they are indeed “of their father the Devil”

    I mean….even their national symbol of six lines, six points and a six sided figure in the middle (hello….666 ring a bell…?) that along with the statements about Jesus “upside down in boiling excrement” who but the devil himself would ever even think of such a horribly sadistic scenario for Jesus, or anyone else?

    I can’t decide if todays Christians are blind, or just plain stupid. Really.

  • Ruby Browning Vice

    Obviously. I’m not the sharpest knife in the drawer, but this was clear as a bell. Leaves no confusion or doubts.

  • Ruby Browning Vice

    Sad that you cannot see the truth. Pray for the guidance of the Holy Spirit and for the anointing of the Word. This is so simply put a 3rd grader can understand. Pray then read the article again and again until you can understand.

  • Ruby Browning Vice

    This is totally backed by Scriptures – the truth here is easy to see.

  • Ruby Browning Vice

    This article is based solely upon scriptures from the Holy Bible.

  • Ruby Browning Vice

    You are 100% WRONG!

  • Helen Duffy

    Paul is the Anti-Christ and False Prophet. His teaching has led people astray…

  • rainbomike

    Isn’t it amazing how the Jews got back into the land of Israel without God noticing?! Isn’t it amazing how they continue to exist and thrive while surrounded by so many who want them Dead?! Just Who do you think has brought them back and Who do you think is protecting them?! Everything with Israel culminates at Zechariah 12:10. Didn’t Paul say something about gentile pride? This article and these comments make it clear that this pride is still flourishing.

  • Bones

    Complete rubbish.

    Obviously God wasn’t protecting them in the Holocaust.

    As for how the secular nation of Israel began, it was founded on Zionist terrorist gangs who became heroes of the state.

    The idea that God has favourite nations is Bronze Age superstitious claptrap.

    It’s the sort of thinking that mandates that God wanted some societies to die out eg Palestinian, Native American, Aboriginal for the purpose of divine colonies.

  • Kees Noorlander

    Every lost sinner is a child of the devil (1 John 3:10), this concerns the Jew as well as the gentile. Jesus will return when the majority of the Jews will say: “Blessed is He that comes in the name of the Lord” (Luke 13:25, Acts 3:20). When Jesus returns there exists a state Israel (Zechariah 12-14).

  • profwatson

    A number of Rabbis were against the Political Zionists 1948 state(founded by Euro Marxists) for the simple reason that it was not founded according to the (Religious Zionism) Bible. The Bible says that it will be founded by God, not men. http://www.nkusa.org/AboutUs/Zionism/opposition.cfm
    Many Evangelicals miss this point, they try to do so many things in their own flawed strength and do not really trust God.

  • Kees Noorlander

    According to Isaiah 43:5-8 and Ezekiel 37 God promised that He will make that the children of Israel would move to Israel, whereas they were deaf and dead! That means they did not believe in God, or believed in a wrong way. So now we see that God is fulfilling His promise.

  • Bones

    Rubbish.

    The verses relate to the Post Exilic return of Israel – not 20th century Zionism….

    Ezekiel’s supposed forecast of the restoration of the Temple was the building of the second temple.

    When you read the Bible it’s a good idea to engage your brain.

  • profwatson

    We interpret the Old Testament in light of Christ. The Kenites killed Christ and thereby showed that they rejected Him. There is no salvation outside of the Church that Christ founded.

  • profwatson

    the law the Kenites broke was murder, they killed Christ, only to see Him raise again. John 8:44 “You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father’s desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies.” To this day, the Kenites are noted for their lies against Christ and His Church.

  • Moishe Platinumberg

    Incredibly stupid, dime store theology. No Christian for 1800 years believed this horseshit. It could only take hold in an era in which the majority of Christians are dumbed down by the public schools and miseducated by marxist clergy. Like I tell the Zionist retards in my town, you take John Hagee and TBN, I’ll stick with Martin Luther and John Calvin.

  • Moishe Platinumberg

    I mean, if this progressive, feminist, sodomite-loving cuck can see it, why can’t actual Christians?

  • mrtapeguy

    Wow, what an incredibly one-side sanctimonious narrative!

    Sure, there is a group of evangelicals with an attitude towards Israel that endorses carte blanche and condemns anything in the world of Islam…but spending your all your energy attacking that while ignoring the rest of the story is intellectually dishonest at best.

    The original Zionists wanted a homeland for Jews, not primarily because it was “God’s will,” but for practical reasons: a place where they would be free from persecution. They were immigrating legally or sometimes illegally (the Ottoman Empire and the British didn’t always allow it) and buying land, most of which didn’t even belong to indigenous Arabs. Statements of early leaders and the Declaration of Eretz Yisrael made it clear IN WRITING that the intent was to live in peace with the indigenous people as co-citizens and with their Arab neighbors. Instead, Al-Husseini decided he didn’t want any more Jews there and began the ultra-nationalist and violent anti-Semitic movement starting with inciting a riot in 1920 for which he was arrested and convicted but later pardoned and somehow appointed Grand Mufti by the British. From there, he became one of Hitler’s closest allies and endorsed the Holocaust with the same intent for the Holy Land.

    After Israel was created amidst calls for peace, 6 Arab countries invaded instead and got their asses handed to them. Al-Husseini went into exile but his nephew Yassir Arafat continued his work through terrorism and the rest is history.

    The point is not to say that Israel never does anything wrong but critics are so often inclined to distort or ignore the history and treat Israel exclusively as the aggressor and its enemies as the victims. In any war there will be bad actors on both sides but Israel didn’t start the hostilities and has many times tried to end them. Arafat walked away from the Oslo accords and leaving Gaza didn’t help either. Some people don’t want peace.

    Yes, we should stand with all people of good character and innocent children who deserve to live in peace; but when you can acknowledge that all Israel wants is peace and its enemies do not even acknowledge it has a right to exist, you may come to the conclusion that focusing only on jingoistic Israel supporters misses a big part of the equation.

  • mrtapeguy

    Spot on, thanks. Israel haters have a peculiar propensity for ignoring the actions of others while focusing entirely on anything Israel does wrong and alternatively, making up a lot more!

  • Bones

    It’s interesting that most pro-Israel supporters are anti-immigration….

    Meanwhile back in the real world…

    “[The Ottoman Land Code of 1858] required the registration in the name of individual owners of agricultural land, most of which had never previously been registered and which had formerly been treated according to traditional forms of land tenure, in the hill areas of Palestine generally masha’a, or communal usufruct. The new law meant that for the first time a peasant could be deprived not of title to his land, which he had rarely held before, but rather of the right to live on it, cultivate it and pass it on to his heirs, which had formerly been inalienable…Under the provisions of the 1858 law, communal rights of tenure were often ignored…Instead, members of the upper classes, adept at manipulating or circumventing the legal process, registered large areas of land as theirs…The fellahin [peasants] naturally considered the land to be theirs, and often discovered that they had ceased to be the legal owners only when the land was sold to Jewish settlers by an absentee landlord…Not only was the land being purchased; its Arab cultivators were being dispossessed and replaced by foreigners who had overt political objectives in Palestine.” Rashid Khalidi, “Blaming The Victims,” ed. Said and Hitchens

    “The aim of the [Jewish National] Fund was ‘to redeem the land of Palestine as the inalienable possession of the Jewish people.’…As early as 1891, Zionist leader Ahad Ha’am wrote that the Arabs “understood very well what we were doing and what we were aiming at’…[Theodore Herzl, the founder of Zionism, stated] ‘We shall try to spirit the penniless [Arab] population across the border by procuring employment for it in transit countries, while denying it employment in our own country… Both the process of expropriation and the removal of the poor must be carried out discreetly and circumspectly’…At various locations in northern Palestine Arab farmers refused to move from land the Fund purchased from absentee owners, and the Turkish authorities, at the Fund’s request, evicted them…The indigenous Jews of Palestine also reacted negatively to Zionism. They did not see the need for a Jewish state in Palestine and did not want to exacerbate relations with the Arabs.” John Quigley, “Palestine and Israel: A Challenge to Justice.”

    An article by Yitzhak Epstein, published in Hashiloah in 1907…called for a new Zionist policy towards the Arabs after 30 years of settlement activity…Like Ahad-Ha’am in 1891, Epstein claims that no good land is vacant, so Jewish settlement meant Arab dispossession…Epstein’s solution to the problem, so that a new “Jewish question” may be avoided, is the creation of a bi-national, non-exclusive program of settlement and development. Purchasing land should not involve the dispossession of poor sharecroppers. It should mean creating a joint farming community, where the Arabs will enjoy modern technology. Schools, hospitals and libraries should be non-exclusivist and education bilingual…The vision of non-exclusivist, peaceful cooperation to replace the practice of dispossession found few takers. Epstein was maligned and scorned for his faintheartedness.” Israeli author, Benjamin Beit-Hallahmi, “Original Sins.”

    In 1919, the American King-Crane Commission spent six weeks in Syria and Palestine, interviewing delegations and reading petitions. Their report stated, “The commissioners began their study of Zionism with minds predisposed in its favor…The fact came out repeatedly in the Commission’s conferences with Jewish representatives that the Zionists looked forward to a practically complete dispossession of the present non-Jewish inhabitants of Palestine, by various forms of purchase…

    “If [the] principle [of self-determination] is to rule, and so the wishes of Palestine’s population are to be decisive as to what is to be done with Palestine, then it is to be remembered that the non-Jewish population of Palestine — nearly nine-tenths of the whole — are emphatically against the entire Zionist program.. To subject a people so minded to unlimited Jewish immigration, and to steady financial and social pressure to surrender the land, would be a gross violation of the principle just quoted…No British officers, consulted by the Commissioners, believed that the Zionist program could be carried out except by force of arms.The officers generally thought that a force of not less than fifty thousand soldiers would be required even to initiate the program. That of itself is evidence of a strong sense of the injustice of the Zionist program…The initial claim, often submitted by Zionist representatives, that they have a ‘right’ to Palestine based on occupation of two thousand years ago, can barely be seriously considered.” Quoted in “The Israel-Arab Reader” ed. Laquer and Rubin.

    But this is a country which appointed terrorists as prime ministers appointed national heroes.
    .

  • Bones

    Yeah, he must have forgotten Israel’s invasion of Lebanon.

  • mrtapeguy

    The “real world” you live in is one of distorted and cherry-picked quotes that are either false, misleading or something from extremists, which, last time I checked, exist in every movement.

    Of course, Herzl was uninvolved LONG before Israel came to fruition (a fact you conveniently leave out – shocking, really) but you still truncate his quote and take it out of context. The FULL quote says:”

    “When we occupy the land, we shall bring immediate benefits to the state that receives us. We must expropriate gently the private property on the estates assigned to us. We shall try to spirit the penniless population across the border by procuring employment for it in the transit countries, while denying it any employment in our country. The property owners will come over to our side. Both the process of expropriation and the removal of the poor must be carried out discretely and circumspectly … It goes without saying that we shall respectfully tolerate persons of other faiths and protect their property, their honor, and their freedom with the harshest means of coercion. This is another area in which we shall set the entire world a wonderful example … Should there be many such immovable owners in individual areas [who would not sell their property to us], we shall simply leave them there and develop our commerce in the direction of other areas which belong to us.”

    So he’s referring to trying to move out poor inhabitants by finding them employment in other countries and the benefits that he believed locals would receive. He adds that those who could not be convinced to sell their land could simply stay. Horrors!

    But instead of parroting anti-Israel propaganda about what early Zionist leaders supposedly said, perhaps it would be better to actually READ the Declaration of Eretz Yisrael, which formally states:

    “WE APPEAL — in the very midst of the onslaught launched against us now for months — to the Arab inhabitants of the State of Israel to preserve peace and participate in the upbuilding of the State on the basis of full and equal citizenship and due representation in all its provisional and permanent institutions.

    Israel…will ensure complete equality of social and political rights to all its inhabitants irrespective of religion, race or sex; it will guarantee freedom of religion, conscience, language, education and culture; it will safeguard the Holy Places of all religions; and it will be faithful to the principles of the Charter of the United Nations.

    WE EXTEND our hand to all neighbouring states and their peoples in an offer of peace and good neighbourliness, and appeal to them to establish bonds of cooperation and mutual help with the sovereign Jewish people settled in its own land. The State of Israel is prepared to do its share in a common effort for the advancement of the entire Middle East.”

    Horrors! Don’t see that coming from the Arab leaders, do ya?

    Now the The fellahin may have considered the land to be theirs and maybe I consider the house I’m renting to be mine…only it isn’t. And, when you have an absentee landlord (over 50% of the land) who chooses to legally sell it, it still isn’t yours – but that doesn’t mean the new landlord is illegitimate. Aside from the fact that he (as you) would like to completely ignore the violent anti-Semitic riots starting as early as 1920, the NYT was spot on in pointing out regarding Khalidi’s book, “But he makes this more than an exercise in self-pity by refusing to let the Palestinians themselves off the hook.”

    Regardless, someone actually involved in the creation of Israel when it actually happened, David Ben-Gurion, opposed the displacement of Arab fellahin. He felt the agricultural laborers who cultivated the land were “the most important asset of the native population” and said ‘under no circumstances must we touch land belonging to the fellahs or worked by them.”

    And Ben-Gurion went much farther than that. Speaking to Palestinian nationalist Musa Alami in 1934 he stated “We do not want to create a situation like that which exists in South Africa, where the whites are the owners and rulers and the blacks are the workers. If we do not do all kinds of work, easy and hard, skilled and unskilled, if we become merely landlords, then this will not be our homeland.”

    And again, this is stated IN WRITING in the Declaration of Eretz Yisrael: you are welcome in Israel regardless of race or religion and we wish to be good neighbors and promote the entire region.

    LOL – what a concept!

    The rest is all conjecture without proof. Did the Zionists want a sovereign Jewish state? Yes, they did. But that’s only NOT OK for Jews because a dozen Arab Muslim theocratic regimes that don’t allow the practice of other faiths, subjugate women and murder gays and apostates as a matter of course is A-OK – but one Jewish democracy that accepts everyone? No way – evil Zionists they are!

    Now as far as some bad actors being elevated to positions of power? Yeah, it happens, especially when people are at war. But don’t whine about that when the “victims” are spearheaded by one of Hitler’s closest allies and his nephew, a master terrorist and finally by Hamas. It makes you look a tad hypocritical.

  • mrtapeguy

    Again, spoken by someone who has either never read (or deliberately ignores) most of the actual documented history including the Declaration of Eretz Yisrael. How does one see the actions of Al Husseini and STILL blame all the problems on “Zionist terrorist gangs?” Arafat, Hamas, you know…all benevolent cuddly bears.

  • mrtapeguy

    You mean when Israel fought to push the PLO away from the border and help a Lebanese Christian militia after PLO militants landed south of Haifa and killed 38 innocent people in the Coastal Road massacre?

  • mrtapeguy

    Christian Arabs live in Israel with equal rights, more rights than they would have in any Arab Muslim country. That’s a simple fact.

    The Assyrians, ad nauseum, didn’t beat “Israel” the nation in a war. That was…earlier…remember?

    Yes, before partitioning the Jews and Arabs coexisted for the most part, until Husseini and his minions got wind that the Jews actually wanted a little sovereignty and thought “we can’t have that!” SO…he started inciting Arab nationalism and anti-Semitic riots and hooked up with everyone’s good buddy…Hitler…to support the Holocaust with his very own SS troops and and designation as an “Honorary Aryan” for his good work.

    And the rest is history that you will continue to cherry-pick.

  • mrtapeguy

    The Talmud is a discussion, not doctrine. That includes commentary on issues that are controversial. It is not an endorsement of them and that claim is an old canard from the Middle Ages. No one endorses any such ideas and in fact, quite the opposite if you would care to learn what Judaism actually teaches, which is that any person of good character is a person of God, regardless of faith.

  • Bones

    Actually the stern gang or lehi wanted to make an alliance with their good buddy, Hitler too.

    Weird, hey?

    But yeah anyone can cherry pick to justify violence and oppression.

    I suppose there would have been less Brits for Begin and Shamir to kill.

    Likud of course is a direct descendant of Irgun and Lehi.

  • Bones

    This is the invasion where they allowed Phalangists to perpetrate massacres at Sabra and Shatila.

    Heck Sharon had to resign over it.

    But he came back later as pm as all good Israeli war criminals do.

    Forgive and forget, hey.

    Hey who assassinated yitzhak rabin?

    People like you.

  • Bones

    Israel supported hamas in the civil war against fatah.

    Why is that not a surprise?

    Another one who hates the prophets and justifies oppression.

  • Charles Byrd

    I don’t agree with the author’s politics, but he has a very good grasp of the history of dispensationalism. I grew up in a Pentacostal home, but left that tradition when I had problems with the tongues issue and the health and wealth theology that was all the rage in the ’80s and ’90s. I was in an Independent Fundamentalist Church for a few years, but left when the new pastor started using the pulpit as a cheerleading platform for George W Bush and the Iraq War. For a few years, before converting to Confessional Lutheranism, I did a very serious rethink of dispensationalism and my research turned up many of the facts the author turns up in this piece.

  • Granny Good-Law

    Great article! Saving to my files to share with others when the argument comes up.

  • The article is good that it brings out points that many people do not work through. One main point is that Palestinian people are a rather new group. So how can they claim the land? Their leaders claim that Israel should be destroyed. How is that helping anyone?
    Yes, Yehovah has allowed for others to become part of the Jewish people. The Jews never did fulfill their mission to be teachers to all the nations.
    And as a person who has moved away from the modern church in the Messianic movement, I and my fellow believers do see things from a different perspective.as a Messianic congregation, are in process. We are “working out our salvation with fear and trembling” and growing in grace as the Lord provides. (Phil. 2:12-13)

  • Terry Washington

    To my mind, giving ANY nation or regime an uncritical blank cheque(be it Israel, Putin’s Russia or even my own UK) amounts to a form of idolatry- giving to a lesser entity the sort of reverence or adulation that rightfully belongs to God. As the late Cardinal Cathal Daly noted during the “NI Troubles”- we risk absolutizing the relative and relativizing the absolute!

  • Arlene Adamo

    There is an ancient community of Christians in Bethlehem, Palestine. They have suffered oppression in Israel since 1948 but their voices have mostly gone unheard. For anyone interested in learning more about them, they are on social media.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6SkQo53ATQ

  • steve

    The only ones who could stay would be the ones who OWNED the property. The poor would be pushed out no matter what they wanted, as per the quote in context. Also we see at the end of the quote this, “…Should there be many such immovable owners in individual areas [who would not sell their property to us], we shall simply leave them there and develop our commerce in the direction of other areas which belong to us.”. Does this imply that the (new) original land owner no be blackballed in areas of commerce with his new neighbors? And, as a side, would the new state just annex it anyway and tax in for it.

  • DeWayne

    Few people are aware that when the Zionist Congress created the State of Israel government in year-1948, Rothschild rewarded them by constructing in Jerusalem their Supreme Court building… further, Rothschild constructed atop this abomination his Masonic Pyramid…. of which Christians are misled to pray for >>> http://rtpricetag2.com/Israel.html

  • DeWayne

    There may be Palestinian descendants (alien/stranger) described in Ezek 47:21-23 “Thus you shall divide this land among yourselves according to the tribes of Israel. 22 It shall be that you will divide it by lot as an inheritance for yourselves, and for the strangers who dwell among you and who bear children among you. They shall be to you as native-born among the children of Israel; they shall have an inheritance with you among the tribes of Israel. 23 And it shall be that in whatever tribe the stranger dwells, there you shall give him his inheritance,” says the Lord GOD. NKJV

  • DeWayne

    A Jewish geneticist Eran Elhaik research, peer reviewed, was published in yr-2013, revealing the the vast majority of people calling themselves ‘Jew’ today, have no genetic relation to the Hebrew people, not are they of the Semitic. They are instead linked genetically to a barbaric people of the Khazar Empire, whose ruler Bulan had everyone in 740AD adopt the Judaic Babylon Talmud religion (w/Shekinah female god), for political purpose only. This very large Empire, that existed starting before the Muslim Empire, were finally mortally brought to fleeing after Russo and Byzantine Christians armies attacked around 1016AD… fleeing and becoming the vast majority Ashkenazi in Europe… and later the majority in Rothschild’s State of Israel, the majority speaking the Khazar Yiddish language.

  • DeWayne

    Bones….Actually, in yr-1933 agreeing with Rothschild’s ‘Transfer Agreement’, Hitler from years 1933 until 1940-41 shipped German Jews and commodities equivalent to their wealth to Palestine… a period of time longer than the entire WWll holohoax.

  • DeWayne

    Theodore Herzl was a common reporter, writing articles and little stories, apparently of little importance or income. It would have taken Rothschild to finance about 200 men as leaders of various groups around the world, bringing them to Germany. However in Germany true Jewish rejected them as in violation of God and Torah (for this need learn of the three vows God imposed upon the scattered), so Rothschild then had to take them to Basel Switzerland where the first Zionist Congress in year-1897 was formed.

  • DeWayne

    Americans and Christians have been subject for about three generations to Rothschild AIPAC owners of ALL major Western Media and other key industries. It is widely believe this same (NWO) control many other Super Power governments causing evil actions in modern times. It is very poor excuse, if any, however true…. we should worry about discernment within the Christian church, because many scholar and prophet are prophesying time is very short.

  • DeWayne

    There is no letter (J) in the Hebrew, nor until the 17th century in the English language. Many believe ‘Jew’ means all Hebrew people, when it only means 1-individual Judah (Yahudah), or 1-tribe Judah of the 12-Hebrew tribes…. true Jews believe only the Messiah will re-establish the (eternal) Israel.

  • DeWayne

    The true regathering of (all) the scattered (not one left behind), is described in Ezek 20:33-38 “As I live,” says the Lord GOD, “surely with a mighty hand, with an outstretched arm, and with fury poured out, I will rule over you. 34 I will bring you out from the peoples and gather you out of the countries where you are scattered, with a mighty hand, with an outstretched arm, and with fury poured out. 35 And I will bring you into the wilderness of the peoples, and there I will plead My case with you face to face. 36 Just as I pleaded My case with your fathers in the wilderness of the land of Egypt, so I will plead My case with you,” says the Lord GOD.

    37 “I will make you pass under the rod, and I will bring you into the bond of the covenant; 38 I will purge the rebels from among you, and those who transgress against Me; I will bring them out of the country where they dwell, but they shall not enter the land of Israel. Then you will know that I am the LORD. NKJV

  • DeWayne

    Christ said He did not come to do away with the law, but to complete it. What do you take from the following ‘doers of the law’ ? Rom 2:12-16
    12 For as many as have sinned without law shall also perish without law: and as many as have sinned in the law shall be judged by the law;
    13(For not the hearers of the law are just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified.
    14 For when the Gentiles, which have not the law, do by nature the things contained in the law, these, having not the law, are a law unto themselves:
    15 Which shew the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and their thoughts the mean while accusing or else excusing one another;)
    16 In the day when God shall judge the secrets of men by Jesus Christ according to my gospel. KJV

  • DeWayne

    Ezekiel (starting in chapter-41 following in several chapters) goes into great detail of a Temple that should be built… IF THEY…[Ezek 43:11], which they did not. God is now making a Temple with His own hands, God no longer lives in a temple made by the hands of man.
    The NIV in Daniel 9:21 is the only translation mention ‘of the Temple’, that is not found in original manuscripts or any other English translation bible.

  • DeWayne

    And proven by research of geneticist Eran Elhaik published yr-2013, that identifies over 90% of those calling themselves ‘Jew’, have no genetic heritage with the biblical Hebrew people, but instead are Khazar Empire people having no Semitic lineage.

  • DeWayne

    Gods word does say ‘Gentiles shall trample the streets of Jerusalem’ in the last days… these are (today) the Ashkenazi-Khazarian that have stolen the name of Jew within the State of Israel.

  • DeWayne

    Apostle Paul said not all of the (Jews) have been rejected by God. Christ upon the cross prayed, ‘forgive them, for they know not what they do’…. which sounds a lot like some Christians (misled) today.

  • DeWayne

    Gods people in the NT, both Hebrew (Jew) and Christian, are called the ‘Family of God’. These are the faithful, Paul made clear not all that call themselves Jew (faithful), are a Jew (faithful).

  • DeWayne
  • Bones

    Oh my God, now we have a holocaust denier…..

    Get lost down whatever hole you came from…

  • Bones

    Pass out the tin foil hats…..

  • Bones

    I stand with the Palestinian people against oppression by Israel and I stand with Jewish people against anti-semitic conspiracy theories, racial theorists and holocaust deniers.

    You cannot defeat a lie with another lie……

  • DeWayne

    The bible does tell of the seed of Satan, and the seed of the woman. I am strongly concerned and believe this seed of Satan are the Nephilim, of ‘before and after’… and are the false ‘Jew’ warned of by Christ. Rothschild’s Zionist Congress began the ‘State of Israel’, Rothschild then constructed their Supreme Court building, placing his (Rothschild’s) Masonic Pyramid on top…. does this sound the will and purpose of Yahweh ???

  • Bones

    Ah yes, the World Jewish conspiracy….now when have we heard that before……

  • Bones

    Nope….

  • DeWayne

    True….Tel Aviv is the yearly Gay Parade Capital of the world, perhaps of hemorrhoids also.

  • Bones

    “When you read the Bible it’s a good idea to engage your brain.”

    That goes for you too.

    Btw I don’t engage with holocaust deniers.

  • Bones

    Nope….I searched and found nothing based on reality there at all…..

  • Bones

    Dude, you can piss off with your homophobic crap too.

  • profwatson

    Christ was referring to the Roman soldiers present there. Typical cowards the Kenites are, they were in the Temple picking up the silver shekels that Judas threw back at them. Judas repented(repentance is required for forgiveness) not so the Kenites and their Serpent Seed. The Apostle Paul was referring to a remnant, which means a very few. According to Jewish law today, if you convert to the other branch of Judaism, Communism, you will still be a Jew, but if you convert to Christianity, you will not be.

  • profwatson

    Paul was referring to the goys who do not have the Moses Law(given by the angels according to New Testament) but their conscience(Holy Spirit within) that tells them right from wrong. The Kenites worshiped the Torah, a material item, but did not understand or forgot the purpose of the word. According to you they had no understanding.
    As they say, actions speak louder than words.
    It is Christ’s gospel, not Paul’s. Paul is only a messenger.
    ” As for you(cowboybob), the anointing you received from Him remains in you, and you do not need anyone to teach you. But as His anointing teaches you about all things and as that anointing is real, not counterfeit–just as it has taught you, remain in him.”1John 2:27

  • DeWayne

    When I think of praying for the State of Israel, I am reminded of the Supreme Court building that Rothschild built as reward for his Zionist Congress in year 1948 creating the State of Israel government. More, I remember Rothschild also had his Masonic Pyramid also constructed on top of the abomination. I remember the Roman Ft Antonia where soldiers garrisoned while completely tearing down Herod’s Temple, as someone prophesied not one stone left standing upon another. When I read something said written by an Apostle I realize it is the result of Christ’s teaching, and was thankful when finding the Word is spiritually understood, with the HS within. It is always beneficial sharing what has come from testing every word and spirit against the Word of God….shalom.

  • DeWayne

    As in the last days, the remnant faithful from the State of Israel will return to Zion (God), out of this State of Israel….today a nation like all others, with wood and stone idols. I believe geneticist Eran Elhaik is correct, that the vast majority of Jews today are Kazar’s, it stands to reason, a people are not kicked out of something like 109 nations for being obedient and faithful to God….living in peace.

  • DeWayne

    I fully believe it was a holohoax, the Zionist 6-million statements changes more often than some change their minds about the State of Israel.

  • DeWayne

    Global population data for the Jewish people showed about 15-million before, and after WWll…. what are we to believe about the Holohoax, that Zionist reproduce faster than rabbits? What is interesting, is the occasional 60 yer old survivor, of Forced Labor Camps that ended 70 years ago.

  • S. Nathan

    After 7 months you come up with this garbage. I have a different name on here now (no longer rainbomike) but I now know that there is one more completely deceived anti-Jewish individual in this world. May God reveal His truth to you and awaken you from the death that you are now living.

  • DeWayne

    Climb atop of Rothschild’s Supreme Court building in Jerusalem, and kiss his MASONIC PYRAMID which Rothschild also constructed yr-1948 atop the abomination… to reward his Khazarian Zionist Congress for creating Rothschild’s State of Israel government… needed to train Rothschild’s ‘Greater Israel’ dual citizens now embedded within Western Gov’s…. for Zionist (Babylon Talmud Shekinah female-god) New World Order dominion. A Christian that cannot discern good from evil, will not understand the significance of Satan’s work in the world today. Very few today calling themselves Jew have Hebrew heritage nor are faithful and obedient to Torah and God.

  • Bones

    Pretty sure the Jewish population of Europe fell….a lot….

    Gee I was right….

    “In 1939, there were 16.6 million Jews worldwide, and a majority of them – 9.5 million, or 57% – lived in Europe, according to DellaPergola’s estimates. By the end of World War II, in 1945, the Jewish population of Europe had shrunk to 3.8 million, or 35% of the world’s 11 million Jews. About 6 million European Jews were killed during the Holocaust, according to common estimates.

    Since then, the global Jewish population – estimated by Pew Research at 14 million as of 2010 – has risen, but it is still smaller than it was before the Holocaust. And in the decades since 1945, the Jewish population in Europe has continued to decline. In 1960, it was about 3.2 million; by 1991, it fell to 2 million, according to DellaPergola’s estimates. Now, there are about 1.4 million Jews in Europe – just 10% of the world’s Jewish population, and 0.2% of Europe’s total population.”

    http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2015/02/09/europes-jewish-population/

    Oh this was easy to find……

    Global Jewish Population Approaches Pre-Holocaust Levels
    Alexandra Sifferlin
    Jun 29, 2015
    The global Jewish population is nearly as large as it was before the Holocaust, according to a new tally released by an Israeli think tank on Monday.
    A report by the Jerusalem-based Jewish People Policy Institute estimates that the global Jewish population has reached 14.2 million people. If accounting for people with one Jewish parent and people who identify as partially Jewish, the number reaches close to pre-Holocaust levels of 16.5 million, the Associated Press reports.
    The report says that the rise is due to natural growth, mainly in Israel. In addition, 59% of adult children in the U.S. who have one Jewish parent say they identify as Jewish.
    About 6 million Jewish people were killed during the Holocaust.

    http://time.com/3939972/global-jewish-population/

    Maybe Time Magazine is run by Rothschilds.

    Take your crazy tin foil hat bs somewhere else.

  • Bones

    Not quite sure if there is anything more despicable than Holocaust deniers….

  • DeWayne

    Global population data (spelled global), not some Zionist rewritten BS that alters history and truth simultaneously.

  • Mark Rogers

    Your article is the most misguided unbiblical load of heresy. If God doesn’t fulfil His promises to Israel, then He is not GOD!!

  • Maurice Cardinal

    You are one of the terrorists. You fail to see the truth in this deception that the western church has played on Christians. What is you profit in this fight? MONEY? TITHES? Yeshua will deal with you and all those who call themselves jews that are not. People are waking up to the jesuit/zionists/masonic agenda. Your time is running short. I stand with Yeshua Hamashiaic and all people. I renounce terrorism and those who oppress, murder, torture and enslave Israel. Israel meaning the people of God. Not some political state promoted on satans bought off media. Like Jesus said. We will know them by their fruits. 911 was orchestrated by the same ones promoting this heretical view on Gods chosen people.
    God Bless

  • bffuxit

    Bones Google the Balfour declaration and EDUCATE yourself IDIOT

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  • Bones

    Wooooooooo-ooooooo

    It’s a Jewish Masonic conspiracy.

    Dan Brown isn’t real , F**KWIT

  • Bones

    Yep, just show the type of cretin you are.

    Well done, dickhead.

    Oooooh, it’s the Illuminati.

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/4fe38f7fdfafa9fbfc22819cc062bed174f9370061c79aa8198f273ce4a2a2b5.jpg

  • Keith Rogers

    Well said. This was an article that needed writing and you have done an exemplary job.Many evangelicals do not support this uncritical support for Israel adopted by American fundamentalists as if it’s ‘the infallible state’.
    Jesus did indeed preach the welcoming of the stranger and social justice.He would never condone land theft and racial discrimination.And as St Paul says in christ ‘there is no jew,no gentile’.This is the new covenant we are under now.

  • L. A.

    Goodness gracious. I was very impressed by this well-written article. The author did a splendid job of explaining & I feel MORE people need to read this and WAKE UP!
    I had come to this site today, in search of such a piece. I have been growingly unnerved/worried by the growth of this “With Israel”-Movement. It is not the spreading of love and faith to The Lord, but a horrible misconstruing of God’s Word(s).
    I wanted to make sure I was correct in my worry about its growth. This author’s work showed me that I was. Your post, Mark, showed me also, that those who are adhering to it, are the ones who are “misguided unbiblical load of heresy” carrying people.

  • Mark Rogers

    Sent from my iPad

  • traxxion

    Genesis 12:3 ~ KJV ~ “And I will bless them that bless thee (Abram);
    and curse him that curses thee: and in thee shall all families of the
    earth be blessed.”

    Fixed the above for you, oh and….

    “One cow in Palestine is worth more than ALL THE JEWS in Europe.”

    ………..

    “I think it is necessary to state here – ZIONISM is above everything. I
    will NOT demand that the Jewish Agency allocate a sum of 300,000 or
    100,000 pounds sterling to HELP European Jewry. And I think that whoever
    demands such things is performing an anti-Zionist act.”

    ―Yitzchak Gruenbaum, 1st Interior Minister of Israel.

    Zionists NOT= Jews NOT= Israel