ICYMI: Catholic Church Livestream With Mr Oz Atheist

ICYMI: Catholic Church Livestream With Mr Oz Atheist August 19, 2018

On Friday, I had the pleasure of joining my good friend, Donovan Badrock (AKA @MrOzAtheist) for a live stream on YouTube as part of our podcast, Common Heathens. We began by having a chat about the recent news coming out of the Catholic Church in Pennsylvania and then went on to answer listeners questions. If you missed it, you can catch up here:

I would love to know what your answers to these questions are. Here is a list, if you need to reference:

  1. How do you handle an overbearing theist family that thinks their POV is the truth?
  2. As an atheist, do you still recognize Jesus as an historical figure? I mean Santa claus was a historical figure, and hundreds of years after he died they made the christmas myth. Do you think its the same thing with Jesus?
  3. What do you think it would take to remove the phrase “in god we trust” from American money?
  4. How angry do you get when someone else steals your “perfect” parking spot at the grocery store?
  5. Why do you think the religious are so gullible? Laziness, or fear of death?
  6. What do you do when you’re on the free throw line getting ready to take your foul shot, and you draw spontaneous wood?
  7. How do you raise your kids in a non-religious household when you live in a very conservative area and a majority of your kids’ friends and classmates have a religious upbringing?
  8. Why do people who know that prayer does “nothing” still pray? Friends of mine still attend because they enjoy the ritual and “vibe” but appreciate that petitioning a deity does nothing.
  9. What is/are the best “anti-religion” jokes? Emo Phillips did a fantastic interpretation of religious infighting.
  10. What have you guys found to be the most effective strategies in talking about reason and science to believers?
  11. Should marmite and vegemite be considered crimes against humanity?
  12. What do your religious family memebers or friend say about you raising atheist kids #AskcommonHeathens
  13. What’s your take on Hugo & Jake?
  14. Ever thought about stepping up into the mainstream media light as a coalition? Create a pool of people public media can tap for secular arguments? I’ve never been impressed with the AA.
  15. Where do you spend your hard earned dollars on atheist/secular agendas?
  16. Do you recommend organizations? I support FFRF and not the AA because a.) I always thought Silverman embodied the angry atheist stereotype and be the FFRF has a well-defined mission.
  17. What should be the common causes for atheism/secularism today?
  18. Harris and Hitchens were both reactionaries to 9/11. Should atheists still be rallying against Islam as a religion that harbors and grooms terrorists?
  19. Can we get a progress report? In the last year and since doing this publicly, what’s gotten better and what’s regressed from your perspective?
  20. Who would you support today to represent atheism as a press spokesperson? The four horsemen are no more: two are retired, 1 is passed and 1 is selling meditation apps touring with Peterson. The AA President resigned in #metoo scandal. Who?

Let me know your thoughts on these questions in the comments below and enjoy watching our live stream!

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  • Michael Neville

    How do you handle an overbearing theist family that thinks their POV is the truth?

    My strongly Catholic brother tried for years to get me to “reconcile with Mother Church”. I asked him not to preach at me, I pleaded for him not to preach at me, and finally I gave him two choices, he could either stop preaching at me or else I would cut all ties with him. I pointed out that I had never tried to convert him to atheism and turn-about was fair play. He then realized that all his preaching was driving me away from him and so he quit doing it. But it took almost 20 years to get him to that point.

    As an atheist, do you still recognize Jesus as an historical figure? I mean Santa claus was a historical figure, and hundreds of years after he died they made the christmas myth. Do you think its the same thing with Jesus?

    I’m perfectly willing to accept that an itinerant preacher named Yesua ben Yosef was wandering around Palestine in the first part of the 1st Century. I do not accept that the miracle producing Jesus described in the Bible existed.

    What do you think it would take to remove the phrase “in god we trust” from American money?

    A campaign to restore the old “E Pluribus Unum” motto. Unfortunately, considering how xenophobic and how much indebted to the Religious Right the present White House is, restoration won’t happen any time soon.

    How angry do you get when someone else steals your “perfect” parking spot at the grocery store?

    Not very. As the old saying goes: shit happens.

    Why do you think the religious are so gullible? Laziness, or fear of death?

    I put it down to childhood indoctrination more than anything else.

    What do you do when you’re on the free throw line getting ready to take your foul shot, and you draw spontaneous wood?

    Traduisez en anglais ou en français, s’il vous plaît.

    How do you raise your kids in a non-religious household when you live in a very conservative area and a majority of your kids’ friends and classmates have a religious upbringing?

    Living in Connecticut I didn’t have that problem.

    Why do people who know that prayer does “nothing” still pray? Friends of mine still attend because they enjoy the ritual and “vibe” but appreciate that petitioning a deity does nothing.

    It’s a habit plus it makes them feel good.

    What is/are the best “anti-religion” jokes? Emo Phillips did a fantastic interpretation of religious infighting.

    I agree that Emo Phillips’ “die heretic” joke is good. I also like another one of his: “I prayed to Jesus for years for a bicycle but never got one. Then I realized he doesn’t work that way. So I stole a bike and prayed for forgiveness.” Any joke that doesn’t punch down counts as a good joke for me.

    What have you guys found to be the most effective strategies in talking about reason and science to believers?

    It depends on the individual I’m talking to. Most Christians aren’t creationists and accept science. I rarely talk about science with creationists because I’ve never found a strategy more effective than: “How ’bout them Red Sox?”.

    Should marmite and vegemite be considered crimes against humanity?

    You should be happy those substances exist. They’re made from industrial waste which would otherwise pollute the landscape.

    What do your religious family memebers or friend say about you raising atheist kids

    See my response to a similar question above.

    What’s your take on Hugo & Jake?

    Never heard of them.

    Ever thought about stepping up into the mainstream media light as a coalition? Create a pool of people public media can tap for secular arguments? I’ve never been impressed with the AA.

    I’ve never been impressed with American Atheists either. However as a shy, introverted person I’d prefer not to expose myself to the public.

    Where do you spend your hard earned dollars on atheist/secular agendas?

    I donate to some of the bloggers here on Patheos.

    Do you recommend organizations? I support FFRF and not the AA because a.) I always thought Silverman embodied the angry atheist stereotype and be the FFRF has a well-defined mission.

    I met Dave Silverman once. We agreed on a couple of things including atheism and that the other guy was a jerk. FFRF is a good organization, I suppose. I haven’t been paying a lot of attention to them.

    What should be the common causes for atheism/secularism today?

    Keeping the fundamentalist evangelical Christians from seizing power and wresting the power they do have away from them.

    Harris and Hitchens were both reactionaries to 9/11. Should atheists still be rallying against Islam as a religion that harbors and grooms terrorists?

    All fundamentalist of every stripe should be kept from harming others. I’ve been spat upon by a Hasidic Jew for “violating the sabbath” (he didn’t try it again after I kicked him in the knee). Fundamentalist Hindus in India are lynching Muslims for supposedly eating beef. We all know what fundamentalist Christians are trying to do here in the US&A. Most Muslims are good people trying to live as best as they can, just like everyone else. It’s the religious people who try to force their beliefs on the rest of us that need to be dealt with.

    Can we get a progress report? In the last year and since doing this publicly, what’s gotten better and what’s regressed from your perspective?

    I don’t know if anything gotten better. I do know that the Trump White House and the Republican controlled Congress are still trying to enforce the fundamentalist Christian agenda on the rest of us with some success.

    Who would you support today to represent atheism as a press spokesperson? The four horsemen are no more: two are retired, 1 is passed and 1 is selling meditation apps touring with Peterson. The AA President resigned in #metoo scandal. Who?

    I have no clue. I don’t pay a lot of attention to organized atheism.

  • Jennny

    Marmite a crime against humanity – NOOOOO! Marmite addicted brit here…I weaned my 3 children on it as fingerfood on toast. (This was 35yrs ago before we realised we all needed to eat less salt.) I seriously think their lack of sweet tooth now as adults is because of this savoury start. At a conference, an african, next to me at breakfast said he was looking forward to trying marmalade and Marmite. He spread a big dollop of the former on is toast and declared it delicious. He did the same with Marmite for his second slice. i intervened hastily and said to take the smallest scraping. I think I’m responsible for understanding why innocent Marmite-samplers all over the world are put off it, you spread it thinly, not in large spoonfuls. It’s 8am here, so off now for my caffeine/Marmite fix for the day.

  • rationalobservations?

    “As an atheist, do you still recognize Jesus as an historical figure?”

    All that can be honestly reported is that there is absolutely not one single item of authentic and original, 1st century originated historical evidence of the existence of Jesus.
    No first century originated text mentions “Jesus”.
    No letter written by any Hebrew, Roman, Greek (or any other) politician, philosopher, clerk, rabbi or anyone else mentions “Jesus”.
    No inscription mentions”Jesus”.
    Not even any 1st century originated graffito references “Jesus”.

    The oldest/first xtian bibles date from the 4th century and the oldest texts merely attributed to JOSEPHUS, Tacitus etc et al date from long after the oldest/first bibles were cobbled together only to be radically altered by the later living teams of men who authored other diverse and very different bibles including the those in common circulation today.

  • Michael Neville

    Josephus’ Testamonium Flavianum is almost certainly a 4th Century forgery by a Christian apologist named Eusebius.