Now Open: Heresy After Hours

Now Open: Heresy After Hours July 25, 2019


Almost 2 years ago, I started a little podcast with two other guys – Jamal Jivanjee and Matthew Distefano – called “The Heretic Happy Hour” podcast.

Honestly, at the time, we were just having fun sharing our different views on theology, ekklesiology and Christianity in general. We laughed. We cussed. We mocked conventions. We tipped over sacred cows and we did our best to question everything we knew about God, Jesus, the Bible and everything in between.

Along the way, we’ve interviewed many “Heretics” like Bart Ehrman, Rachel Held Evans, Nadia Bolz-Weber, Bishop Carlton Pearson [“Come Sunday”], John Fugelsang, Brad Jersak, Brian Zahnd, Peter Enns, Richard Rohr, and so many others, about why people call them heretics, what led to their deconstruction process, and where they find themselves now on this journey of faith.

What we didn’t know was just how important this little podcast would become to so many people in so short a time.

Almost overnight we started to receive messages, voicemails [yes, we have a Hotline you can call 24/7 and leave a message or send a text at 240-343-7379], and comments from people who wanted us to know how this podcast had helped them survive toxic Christianity.

Some were dramatic. These included notes from people who were seriously considering suicide before listening to our conversations about doubt, faith and deconstruction. Others were funny, and still others were sad – like when pastors let us know that they are “heretics” because they doubt eternal hell or the inerrancy of scripture, or penal substitutionary atonement theory – and they fear that one day their congregations my discover this and they may lose their jobs.

Along the way, we’ve had fun created t-shirts, and even throw pillows, to go along with our vibe, and we set up a Patreon page [because that’s just sort of what you have to do these days if you have a podcast], and of course, a Facebook Group.

However, that Facebook Group grew just as quickly as our podcast did. About the time we hit over 100,000 downloads of the podcast, our group on Facebook was over 1,500 members strong – and just a bit out of our control.

So, after a few private strategy sessions, we decided to create a new Podcast-exclusive Facebook Group tied to our Patreon page where conversations can be specifically focused on episodes.

In addition, we also decided to transition our existing group into a more open-ended discussion about Deconstruction, without necessarily being tied to the podcast.

This new, open-ended Deconstruction Facebook Group is called Heresy After Hours and we’ve invited people like Jason Elam [The Messy Spirituality Podcast], Seth Price [Can I Say This At Church? Podcast], Zack Krater [Bros, Bibles and Beer Podcast], and several others to help us nurture the conversation.

Our hope is to open this up to include a wider variety of voices who can help us understand what it means to question our faith without losing our minds, or our connection with God, in the process. Even if some of us do lose that connection, our hope is to provide a safe place for people to continue to ask questions, seek truth and find community along the way.

If you’re currently going  through deconstruction in your faith, this is a great place to come and find community [online] with others who are wrestling through some of the same ideas that you are working through, too.

Join the group HERE. 


Keith Giles was formerly a licensed and ordained minister who walked away from organized church 11 years ago, to start a home fellowship that gave away 100% of the offering to the poor in the community. Today, He and his wife live in Meridian, Idaho, awaiting their next adventure.

Upcoming Event: July 27-28 “Unleashing the Word of God” [With Richard Murray] – FREE! – Woodstock, GA

Keith’s newest book, “Jesus Unveiled: Forsaking Church As We Know It For Ekklesia As God Intended” released on June 9, 2019 on Amazon, and features a Foreword by author Richard Jacobson.
Keith’s Podcast: Heretic Happy Hour Podcast is on iTunes and Podbean. 

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  • soter phile

    For the time is coming when people will not endure sound teaching, but having itching ears
    they will accumulate for themselves teachers to suit their own passions…
    (2 Tim.4:3)

    Theme verse of your blog & podcast.

  • Al Cruise

    I disagree. This verse is about Trump supporting evangelicals.

  • soter phile

    it’s not an either/or. both progressives & evangelicals have this problem.

  • Al Cruise

    Nice try at deflecting.

  • Herm

    Mark 4:10-12
    When he was alone, the Twelve and the others around him asked him about the parables. [11] He told them, “The secret of the kingdom of God has been given to you. But to those on the outside everything is said in parables [12] so that, “ ‘they may be ever seeing but never perceiving, and ever hearing but never understanding; otherwise they might turn and be forgiven!’ ”

    Luke 8:9-10
    His disciples asked him what this parable meant. [10] He said, “The knowledge of the secrets of the kingdom of God has been given to you, but to others I speak in parables, so that, “ ‘though seeing, they may not see; though hearing, they may not understand.’

    There is only one Teacher for students of Jesus the Christ. All orthodox teachers, such as in…

    Matthew 23:1-8
    Then Jesus said to the crowds and to his disciples: [2] “The teachers of the law and the Pharisees sit in Moses’ seat. [3] So you must be careful to do everything they tell you. But do not do what they do, for they do not practice what they preach. [4] They tie up heavy, cumbersome loads and put them on other people’s shoulders, but they themselves are not willing to lift a finger to move them. [5] “Everything they do is done for people to see: They make their phylacteries wide and the tassels on their garments long; [6] they love the place of honor at banquets and the most important seats in the synagogues; [7] they love to be greeted with respect in the marketplaces and to be called ‘Rabbi’ by others. [8] “But you are not to be called ‘Rabbi,’ for you have one Teacher, and you are all brothers.

    … are not the source in the Spirit of truth.

    Those brothers and sisters, who all live with and the Spirit of truth, don’t learn through their carnal ears of Man, but through their spirit heart and mind in the image of God. The last two millennium have been wasted by those disciples of apostles, bishops, priests, Pope’s, parables, and carnal churches who don’t come to accept wholly the only Teacher living with and in them eternally. The only teacher who can speak as told by Jesus and our heavenly Father. The only teacher who knows the whole truth without the doubt of surmise.

    Conversing as Man through pen, eyes, mouth, ears and non othordox authoritarian resources, including podcasts, as considerate, caring and sincere daughters and sons of Man is how each of mankind can grow from solely carnal awareness to awareness of the image of God within each of us.

    Today is not the beginning or end of all there is to learn. My perfect Father in heaven, of no beginning, has no end to his learning. Each of us knows within us that there is no joy in living without growing and learning in relationship with all there is. Each of God, likewise, finds never ending joy in knowing that there is no end to growth in the spirit of sharing each our unique perspective, each first doing to others as we would have others do to us, bound by all love of all of God, merciful neighbor and self.

  • soter phile

    one of us just acknowledged both groups have this problem.
    the other doesn’t seem to know the meaning of deflection.

  • Al Cruise

    Would you like some links of conservative evangelical leaders boldly proclaiming that Trump was sent by God to protect them. These leaders have the power to sway millions of followers into believing likewise.

  • soter phile

    or maybe it’s the meaning of “both” that escapes you…

  • Al Cruise

    Do you want the Links ?

  • soter phile

    i said before: “both progressives and evangelicals have this problem.”

    now you want to send me links proving evangelicals have this problem – affirming what i already said to be true – as thought it will somehow change my mind?

    again, either you don’t know what deflection is… or what both means.

  • Al Cruise

    You are in denial. I understand you have no other defense.

  • soter phile

    Thanks, Johnnie Cochran. It’s been a while since I’ve seen the Chewbacca defense.

  • Al Cruise

    Name calling now, not surprised. Trump will get even more conservative evangelical votes 2020, early polling is showing even stronger for him from conservative evangelicals.

  • soter phile

    Clearly you don’t know (and didn’t google) what the Chewbacca defense is.

  • Al Cruise

    Conservative evangelicals are solely responsible for Trump and are the enablers for his current behaviour . Your beliefs will be swept into the dust bin of history as the younger generations take over and whites become a minority.

  • soter phile

    let’s list your bad assumptions:

    a) you think there are 63 million evangelicals in the US – and they all voted for Trump?

    b) you assume none of Trump’s critics are conservative or evangelical or both?

    c) you assume no evangelical is young or non-white? have you even glanced at stats?

    d) ironically for you, the ‘dust bin of history’ argument itself has repeatedly proven it belongs in the dust bin of history. do you need a few examples of those who’ve used it and been wrong?

    orthodox Christianity is the largest movement in human history. these beliefs have persisted for two millennia across a variety of contexts & cultures. can you say that about your own?