Why I Reject The 5 Fold Ministry

Why I Reject The 5 Fold Ministry February 13, 2020

“Do you believe in the Five Fold Ministry?”

Someone asked me this very question the other day, and after a lot of thought and research I’ve finally got my answer – “No. I don’t.”

Perhaps it would help if I were to clarify what I mean? First of all, in case you don’t know what I’m talking about, the Five Fold Ministry is a concept taken from one single passage in the New Testament (Ephesians 4:11-13) which says:

“So Christ himself gave the apostles, the prophets, the evangelists, the pastors and teachers, to equip his people for works of service, so that the body of Christ may be built up until we all reach unity in the faith and in the knowledge of the Son of God and become mature, attaining to the whole measure of the fullness of Christ.”

Notice that there are five gifts mentioned here. They are Apostles, Prophets, Evangelists, Pastors, and Teachers, and for those who swear by the Five Fold Ministry model, this list represents both a hierarchy of giftings, and an essential list of gifts that must be present in every church for health and growth.

First, let me explain why I reject the Five Fold concept. It’s because Paul himself gives us other two lists elsewhere in his epistles and those other lists are slightly longer, and in a different order, than the one he gives here in Ephesians.

Before we look at those other two, let’s go ahead and say that this fact alone should tell us that Paul didn’t intend for his list in Ephesians to be taken as the only model for church dynamics. If he gave other church members in other cities a different list, then that means he wasn’t trying to be dogmatic about this, and that he was speaking loosely about the various gifts that God releases into the Body of Christ for growth, strength, and life.

The 8 Fold Ministry
Got it? Ok, now let’s look at those other two lists, starting with the one in 1 Corinthians 12, verse 28 where Paul says:

“And God has placed in the church first of all apostles, second prophets, third teachers, then miracles, then gifts of healing, of helping, of guidance, and of different kinds of tongues.”

So, even though Paul starts out the same in Corinthians as he does in Ephesians – with Apostles and Prophets – he strangely promotes Teachers to third place (up from last place in our Ephesian list. Way to go Teachers!), and then introduces Miracle Workers, Healers, Helpers, Guidance (or Wisdom) and Tongues. This might be called the Eight Fold Ministry since here Paul expands the length of his list by three.

Notice that, if we were ignorant of the other lists, the one in Ephesians and the one in Romans (which we’ll look at in a second), we could easily conclude that God’s plan is all about this (and only this) order of gifts to lead the church. We might conclude from this list that Pastors and Evangelists are lower class citizens in the church since they’re not mentioned at all. We could also easily make a case that Paul’s list is hierarchical since he enumerates these by saying, “First of all…second….third…” and so on. This clearly indicates that the first ones are more important and the last ones are less important.


Wrong. Why? Because Paul said something different to the church in Ephesus and in Rome. And, since his order in those other cases was different, we can safely assume that when Paul says “First of all apostles…” he’s talking chronologically and not hierarchically. The Apostles were the first ones to be “sent out” by Jesus and once the Gospel was preached and people responded, they needed to have others who could prophesy and teach, and serve, etc.

The 7 Fold Ministry
But wait, we’re not done. Let’s look now at Paul’s essential list of gifts in Romans 12. It goes like this:

“For just as each of us has one body with many members, and these members do not all have the same function, so in Christ we, though many, form one body, and each member belongs to all the others. We have different gifts, according to the grace given to each of us. If your gift is prophesying, then prophesy in accordance with your faith; if it is serving, then serve; if it is teaching, then teach; if it is to encourage, then give encouragement; if it is giving, then give generously; if it is to lead, do it diligently; if it is to show mercy, do it cheerfully.”

(v. 4-8)

Personally, I like this list a lot more than the other two. This Seven Fold Ministry of God drops leadership to the very bottom, just ahead of showing mercy, and it moves service, teaching and encouragement to the top. That’s my kind of list.

But, again, the Christians in Rome could easily have taken this list and deduced from it that Apostles, Evangelists and Pastors are unnecessary in the Church, and that what really counts is Prophecy, Service, Teaching, Encouragement, Giving, Leadership and Mercy. But, again, they would be wrong about that.

What’s fascinating to me is that, while we have all three of these epistles in front of us and they didn’t, our tendency is to take one of those lists as authoritative while ignoring the other two. There is no evidence that the churches in Ephesus, Rome or Corinth took Paul’s instructions in this manner to be exhaustive and exclusive of the others.

The main thing I believe we can learn from all of this is that Jesus was serious when he said that we are all brothers and sisters and that none of us was meant to play the Father, or the Ruler over anyone else. (See Matthew 23:9) The goal in the Body of Christ is that we are all members of one another, and that no one person is given the preeminence over the rest of us.

Having said all of this, let me clarify that yes, I do believe that there are those today who are “sent ones” (or “Apostles”) in the church today. Their function is to go out and preach the Gospel, plant churches, recognize gifts in the Body, and move on when needed to plant more churches. I also believe that there are those in the church today with the gifts of prophecy, and tongues, and teaching, and mercy, and giving, and all those many, many other gifts.

What I reject is the idea that there are only five main gifts in the church today, or that these five should be exalted above all the other gifts mentioned in the New Testament as if they are more special or more necessary or more crucial than any of the others.

At face value, the message of the New Testament is that you matter. Your gift – whatever it is – is necessary. You are important. You have something the rest of us need. We have something that you need. We need one another to grow and to thrive.

As Paul says in each of these passages, there are many gifts, and they are all given by the One Spirit, and we are all members of each other. Our gifts are not for us, they are not about us, they are about one another and the purpose of these gifts is to be a blessing to everyone else and to exalt them, not ourselves.

So, I’m not sure about you, but since there are something like 28 different spiritual gifts mentioned in the Bible, and 58 “one anothers”, I’m a big fan of the 28 or the 58 Fold Ministry of God.

How about you?


Keith Giles was formerly a licensed and ordained minister who walked away from organized church 11 years ago, to start a home fellowship that gave away 100% of the offering to the poor in the community. Today, He and his wife have returned to El Paso, TX after 25 years, as part of their next adventure. They hope to start a new house church very soon.

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  • Jeff Pankratz

    Well said Keith! I read the letter to Ephesus a little different than the letters to Corinth or Rome. The language of Ephesus (in my own opinion) seems to be a little more ‘over-arching’ as Pauls magna carta so to speak for the church (that he believed he got from Jesus). So I put a little more empasis when he says that those gifts are meant to equip others in the body of Christ. And a huge AMEN for those that you use the 5-fold to domineer or dictate as lording over people. If these are Jesus given gifts (the only ones that says ‘Jesus gave’), then they at their very core need to be ‘foot-washing’ roles or servant hearted posture. So although I lean a little more on the 5-fold to equip the church, I whole-heartedly agree with you that all of these gifts from God need to be championed and celebrated without hierarchy to love and honor Jesus’ bride, to get after Jesus’ mission in our cities today. Good piece, brother!

  • Nimblewill

    Is it possible that like the 613 OT laws fall under the 10 Commandments and those under the Great Commandment that all gifts could be categorized in those 5.

  • Sheryl Plocharczyk

    I love your insights and what you are sharing, and feel an opening here to share a bit of deconstruction that I am going through, that fits into this train of thought. There are tiny mystical or gnostic churches that exist within Christianity. I joined up with them because visions and revelations that I began to have called me out of fundamental Christianity and I have now followed 2 different mystical/gnostic churches. They consider themselves the inner church of Christianity. Now each of these is completely different, they each being led by a unique, liberated being. We are so trained that everything has to match up and agree and here in this world, I have found, well no it does not. I believe, Keith, that what you are pointing to in Paul’s teachings very much ties into his conflict with the other Apostles in Acts. His way, the way that he taught, is founded in Grace (because of his unique awakening and experiencing in Christ). Peter and James taught a way that was more founded in law. Each Apostle represents a unique way, and small or large lineages grew forth from these unique ways. I agree with your insight that it is not a heirarchy within a church he is pointing at, and not even a singular church, but he is validating all the different ways that were arising in this world, and all are good. I have found within these small gnostic/mystical lineages those that follow the way of Service, those that follow they way of Kaballah, or other mystical teachings, those that follow the way of Mercy, those who follow the way of Gnosis, And all are equal and good and true in this world, and very useful to those who are called to a similar way. Thank you for your labor and all that you do to assist those being called out of the “outer” church.

  • Herm

    … and summed up, in everything, do to others as you would have others do to you?

  • Herm

    the greatest among us will be our servant

  • Bob Peacock

    We in our household, love reading Keith. His points so view seem to be always on for us. They seem to connect with us on certain days when we are asking or seeking answers to questions as well. We were just talking about the 5 fold Ministry and discussed our feelings as well and have come up with the same conclusion. We agree with the 28 and 58. In our Church there are so many wonderful gifts in all forms that God has gifted his Children with, and they are used to enhance the Realm of all that is good on this Earth in these terrible times. We have many people of many different denominations who have the freedom within our Assembly to demonstrate and utilize those gifts to glorify God and teach and care and love each person who walks through our doors, no matter who they are, who they love, where they came from. LOVE WINS OUT and GOD IS THE WINNER along with all of us. Thank you Keith for your wonderful, thoughtful and loving words that we read on a daily basis. Blessings to you and yours always.
    Bob and Lloyd Peacock
    Vancouver, B.C.

  • John Purssey

    Are the lists simple enumerations, or are they ranked.
    In the translations given only the Corinthians one seems ranked. That could be because at Corinth there was an overemphasis on tongues, and Paul was putting it low on a list to say that it isn’t so important and others are more important. And that list is itself of less importance than the set of faith, hope and love.

  • Raymond

    Is the language “over-arching” in both English and Greek?