Quoting Quiverfull: A New Pope?

Quoting Quiverfull: A New Pope? February 20, 2013

by Michael Farris, Chancellor of Patrick Henry College & President of HSLDA  – February 17, 2013

E.J. Dionne of the Washington Post says that the best choice for the new Pope would be a nun. That shows as much respect for the traditions and beliefs of Roman Catholics as saying the best choice for an American President would be a Kenyan.

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QUOTING QUIVERFULL is a regular feature of NLQ – we present the actual words of noted Quiverfull leaders and ask our readers: What do you think? Agree? Disagree? This is the place to state your opinion. Please, let’s keep it respectful – but at the same time, we encourage readers to examine the ideas of Quiverfull honestly and thoughtfully.

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  • I shouldn’t have gone over to his facebook page. Now I am really annoyed. Why does Michal Farris care who the next pope is anyway?

  • As usual, people who know jack s*** about Roman Catholicism and the Catholic community feel entitled to mouth off about it. I am even more floored by those people who don’t even LIKE the Church nor any respect for it (usually agnostics/atheists, in my personal experience) tell Catholics how to be Catholic and who belongs and who doesn’t. As a Roman Catholic myself, I deal with this all the time and I just want to bean them every time I see it. No, women’s ordination is not technically allowed in the Church, but whether or not that rule should be changed or how we deal with dissenters is for us to worry about. Farris, worry about your own community, not ours! Let Catholics speak for themselves.

  • B.E. Miller

    I wouldn’t mind a Pope Joan. That said, I don’t think women are going to be ordained in the Church anytime soon, no matter how much I might think it would be a good thing. The Vatican council will decide on the next Pope, with no real input from lay Catholics.

    I’m a bit proud of Benedict for stepping down when he felt he could no longer keep up the position. That needs to happen more, what with the fact that people now live longer, but might not be in the type of health needed for the position.

  • Tori

    The Catholic Church, Racing Backwards into the Future……..

  • thalwen

    The American public felt so disrespected by a person of Kenyan descent in the presidency that they elected him twice. I think a good portion of Catholics would not feel disrespected by a female pope as long as the pope was a good one. There really is more to people than their gender and skin colour and most people are smart enough to realise that.

  • Petticoat Philosopher

    He’s absolutely right! Just as the major issues facing America can only be fully understood and appreciated by an American and, therefore, only an American should be in the position to make big decisions about them (not this Muslim Obama guy!), the major issues facing the Catholic Church, like birth control and reproductive choice can only be fully understood by a man and, therefore, only a man should be in the position to make big decisions about them!

    Wait a minute…

  • Petticoat Philosopher

    But are you saying non-Catholics should not publicly voice opinions about what goes on in the Church? Because I kind of feel like I ought to be able to be as loudly opinionated as I please about an organization that actively seeks to influence MY LIFE. The Church is a very powerful institution and so it’s going to attract the attention and scrutiny of people who are not members. That’s just what comes with power.

    That being said, Farris is a racist, misogynist ass whose sudden concern that the traditions of Catholicism be respected is hilariously disingenuous.

  • E.J. Dionne’s article that Michael Ferris was talking about is actually very good and thought provoking, provided you aren’t some close minded head of a Christian college – http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/the-best-choice-for-pope-a-nun/2013/02/15/83c8be2e-76c6-11e2-95e4-6148e45d7adb_story.html

  • B.E. Miller


  • The purpose of my post was not to say that non-Catholics should not have opinions about the Church, especially when the Church attempts to unduly influence the lives of non-Catholics. People can think what they please, and they SHOULD speak out against abuses of power by religious institutions. My post was more about the issue you raised in the second part of your comment:

    “That being said, Farris is a racist, misogynist ass whose sudden concern that the traditions of Catholicism be respected is hilariously disingenuous.”

    People like Farris who are not Catholic should not police the thoughts and behaviors of those who are Catholic, nor should he claim to speak for them or represent their faith. Lastly, he has no business pontificating on issues that are purely internal to the Church, such as women’s ordination. When someone like Farris barges in, projects an attitude that he’s an expert on the faith and that he’s defending those poor maligned Catholics, that really yanks my chain.

    I’m sorry if my post came off as criticizing you for having an opinion. Looking back, I could have worded it more carefully. Hope that clears it up.:)

  • They’re not still angry about Obama are they? Give it a rest, dudes!

  • Saraquill

    A man who can not even do basic research about the leader of his country is in charge of a college. I”m afraid to know how he got the position.

  • validated

    I thought the same thing when I read the quote.
    “…didnt that JUST happen a second time?”

  • Persephone

    I don’t think that’s why he stepped down. The sexual abuse cover ups he participated in are causing the church to lose influence and the faith of its members, right when they’re trying to consolidate their stand on the new healthcare bill regarding reproductive issues for their employees and services provided to patients. It’s affecting its influence on politics. Benedict has shown that he is utterly without empathy, focused on power, and strengthening the influence of the church. He was chosen because he was old school, but it was the wrong choice at a time when the battle between progressives and hard-liners is becoming a worldwide issue.

  • Persephone

    Patrick Henry is a right-wing college set up for homeschooled fundagelicals. I’ve heard it makes Oral Roberts look liberal.

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  • Stacey B.

    I became a Roman Catholic after my quivering days were done. This idiot doesn’t know SH*T about the Catholic Church. Fundamentalists, please stop being rude to other religions who have done nothing to offend you! Idiots.