Quoting Quiverfull: Doug Phillips Resignation from Vision Forum

Quoting Quiverfull: Doug Phillips Resignation from Vision Forum November 2, 2013

by Doug Wilson from his blog Blog and Mablog –  Doug Phillips Resignation from Vision Forum

I thought I should say something about Doug Phillips’ resignation from Vision Forum, but it won’t be very much. The news was of course tragic, sad, and humbling. That said, I thought his letter of resignation was good, and accomplished what a letter like that needed to accomplish. I am glad he stepped down from leadership, and am glad he cancelled his future speaking engagements, and that is all to the good. Given the sin, that is what should happen. We should grieve over the damage done, rejoice in his repentance, and wish him and his family nothing but the best.

The second observation has to do with the snark shown by those who see such things as an occasion for venting their spleen. One of the reasons why men in Christian leadership have to be so careful in their lives is that this response is so entirely predictable. When Nathan the prophet rebuked David for his great sin, he referred to this response as one of the obvious and predictable consequences — “by this deed thou hast given great occasion to the enemies of the Lord to blaspheme . . .” (2 Sam. 12:14).

And that is what they do. But for those who know how the story goes, this is one of those occasions where the enemies of the Lord can be readily identified. By their glee ye shall know them.

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  • Edie Moore McGee

    Sigh. This is really so simple. The bigger they are, the harder they fall. I haven’t seen any glee here — more like observations of the irony. I have, however, seen a lot of compassion expressed for those affected by his actions.

  • Nea

    One of the reasons why men in Christian leadership have to be so careful in their lives is that this response is so entirely predictable.

    ….Yeah, it’s not actually important to practice what you preach because *it’s what you preach.* It’s just that it’s embarrassing when people remark on glaring hypocrisy, and incredibly annoying when they won’t stick to the opinions you want them to have.

    ETA: And still nobody’s mentioning the woman at all. In this version, she doesn’t even exist, apparently.

  • Nea

    Anything that recasts the perpetrator as the victim is fair game as far as I can tell. This seems to be the wider version of shaming a real victim for being “bitter” or “unforgiving” and not focusing on the actual crime and damage done. Only cast wider – now it’s all about how the mean, mean world isn’t instantly forgiving and fussing over Preacher # 43725 To Fall Off The Pedestal. So we, of course, are the bullies doing bad and not the guy who’s had to step down from (a small part of) his career for actually doing something wrong.

  • Jennifer

    LOL! You are awesome.
    C’mon NLQ, this isn’t fair; you can’t post such a jackass article without harpooning the author of it too! He needs more than Phillips sometimes, I think.

  • Independent Thinker

    I just wanted to point out that those within the Quiverful/Patriarchy movement have no problem in raking mainstream Christian leaders like Rick Warren, Joyce Meyer, and Joel Osteen through the coals. Yet, even the smallest hint of distain for Doug Phillips is immediately considered distasteful, inappropriate, and should cease immediately.

  • herewegokids

    “One of the reasons why men in Christian leadership have to be so careful in their lives is that this response is so entirely predictable.” ……..Wow. I guess it isn’t because, you know, families get hurt, marriages are damaged, or people are emulating you and even supporting you financially through their purchases and attendance of events, and are counting on you to live honestly and practice what you preach. It’s all about avoiding the snark. The oh-so-predictable comparison to King David….*sigh*. Wilson is an idiot. And a misogynist. And a racist. He’s so full of himself that he thought marrying off a young and naïve homeschool graduate to a convicted pedophile was a great idea because, you know, MERCY. But in an interview with Christianity Today, “… Wilson distanced himself from the Reconstructionist label, but not the movement’s harsh views.Asked if he would execute gays, he replied, “You can’t apply Scripture woodenly. You might exile some homosexuals, depending on the circumstances and the age of the victim. There are circumstances where I’d be in favor of execution for adultery…. I’m not proposing legislation. All I’m doing is refusing to apologize for certain parts of the Bible.” – See more at: http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/has-chuck-colson-finally-gone-deep-end#sthash.sZgaLyKm.dpuf

  • yulaffin

    Don’t worry, he’ll throw her under the bus when he needs to. It’s all his wife’s/the woman’s fault after all.

  • It’s important to note that the link Wilson provided did not go directly to Vision Forum’s statement. It went to my blog article in which I have a lot of diverse comments. He claims people are “chortling” over the news. I don’t see people chortling, I see some of them glad that truth is finally exposed and now maybe attention can be drawn to the abuses within the Patriarchal system which treats women as objects and can leave them in bondage.

    The reality is that my blog and this blog and many others are a threat. He didn’t want to discuss Phillips. He wanted to discuss those whiny woman bloggers who threaten Patriarchs.

  • Jennifer

    He SERIOUSLY said he’d be in favor of execution for adultery???? The man’s insane! And he already got involved with trying to let off a pedo easy, now you’re telling me he tried to marry someone to him? He is absolutely sick!