Quoting Quiverfull: Homechurch Too?

Quoting Quiverfull: Homechurch Too? January 8, 2014

by Mary Pride from a New York Time’s article about the Pride family & homeschooling – A Home-School Pioneer Looks to Its Future

For example, right now Mrs. Pride, who lives with her husband and, at the moment, five of her children outside St. Louis, does not regularly attend any church, although they have regular “home church” on Sunday evenings. She offered many reasons none of her most recent churches had worked out.

“Abusive pastors,” Mrs. Pride said, a bit cryptically. “And then again,” she continued, “when you have written all these books and have this huge number of children, you cannot visit quietly anywhere. And frankly the way our schedule has been for years, it has been so exhausting that I was never awake on Sunday to go anywhere.”

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  • persephone

    OMG! Mary Pride can’t make it to church because she has too many kids. Hmmm. I was think she needs to examine herself, because it sounds as though the sin of sloth has overtaken her. Smh.

  • I left a comment on the article about having a difficult time being around Christians. One of my points was that some of the nastiness that is now part of the equation comes, not from religion, but libertarian politics. Having not paid much attention to Mary Pride, I did a little surfing. Lo and behold…. well, she’s a Ron Paul Bot. That explains everything, trust me. http://communities.washingtontimes.com/neighborhood/not-your-average-read/2012/feb/16/ron-paul-and-mary-pride-homeschooler-supports-libe/

    I’ve been trying to link the extreme religious right, libertarians, and some truly nasty ideologies for about 8 years. They are so darn consistent. When you smell a nasty little rat, go back to the libertarian right. Doesn’t matter if it is economics, education, immigration, race, religion – it’s all part of the same. Dear lord high god R. J. Rushdoony was part of the John Birch movement early on. He also identified himself as a libertarian. It just explains so many things.

    We’re not talking about the original version of libertarian, but something fairly ‘recent’. You can’t go more than a step or two with the extreme religion without getting involved in the extreme John Birch, Ron Paul style libertarian. There are a heck of a lot of implications that I am making along with it – and none of them are very nice.

    SJR

  • Nea

    I would love to know her definition of abuse. I have a feeling it means “argues theology with me.” Or, considering her next line “wants me to show up.” Funny how that’s one requirement too far. She sleeps ALL Sunday?

  • Madame

    I’m no Mary Pride fan. I read her books “the way home” and “all the way home”, and didn’t like her judgmental tone at all.
    But I have to give her some credit for having been so progressive in the education of her children and having kept the door to college open. She sounds like someone who isn’t satisfied with following the crowd and is very independent, which makes me wonder if she really is the “submissive wife” she teaches women to be. It sounds like Bill got behind her, rather than her getting behind him…

    As for not going to church, well, if church is only a source of stress for her and her family, why should they attend? On the other hand, home-everything-ing really isolates the family, which isn`t good either. Does she have real relationships with people outside of the internet and her family? The internet is no substitute for real relationships.

  • Nightshade

    Yeah, all the better to isolate the family from all outside influence. Way to go.

  • KarenJo12

    See today’s “Ladies Against Feminism” blog, which quotes Nancy Campbell lecturing her inferiors that the shouldn’t worry about actually paying for anything if they have another child.

  • KarenJo12

    If she didn’t make a good living lecturing other families on the vital importance of being exactly her kind of Christian I would agree with her. From the article, however, it appears that she doesn’t go to church because she’s too tired from making money telling other women not to make money to attend corporate worship. She’s a bleeding hypocrite and needs to read what Jesus said about “whited sepulchres.”

  • Madame

    I agree, which is why I started out my comment stating that I’m no fan of hers. She’s very black and white, very “my way or the highway”, which is exactly the kind of person with whom it’s pointless to have a conversation. She has THE way to set up a home business, THE way to birth (at home, thou shalt not show thy vagina to a man who is not thy husband), and even THE way to get strong and lose weight which, incidentally, she doesn’t seem to have mastered yet; and I wouldn’t even notice that if she weren’t out there peddling expensive home gyms as the one and only solution.

    I don’t remember her being all that into mandatory church attendance, unless hubby dictated it, that is. If hubby was ok with home-churching, then all the better. But it’s been over 7 years since I read her books and don’t have them any more.

    I agree that she’s quite the hypocrite. Just look at the real leader of her home. If it’s Bill, nobody online would know. Kind of like Joyce Meyer saying she follows her husband.

  • Nea

    I can’t bear to click. God will provide, despite the lack of all evidence to that?

  • B.E. Miller
  • tulips

    Terrifying. Yes, Nancy…there are no Christians starving to death or dying from treatable illness in the world *blinks* all evidence to the contrary. God will provide but just in case plant tomatoes and lettuce in pots on your nonexistent porch which will do f*ck all to keep your family from going hungry if it comes down to that. Irresponsible. Dangerous. Shameful snake oil salesmanship.

  • Headless Unicorn Guy

    Homeschool, Home Church.

    Stay barricaded in your Christian(TM) Home with your “Just twenty and counting, No More, Amen” Faithful Remnant and those HEATHEN outside will NEVER have the opportunity to corrupt you/cause you to stumble.

  • Headless Unicorn Guy

    Just as these days Intelligent Design is a code word for Young Earth Creationism, so Libertarian is just another word for Objectivist.

    How did a Madelyn Murray O’Hair-level anti-theist and Cult Leader like Ayn Rand become the latest Fourth Person of the Trinity?

  • Astrin Ymris

    They can always start a gofundme page… crowdfunding is a very popular way for God to provide for international adoption… or even for domestic adoption of a healthy newborn.

    http://www.gofundme.com/60dqjw#

    And if all else fails, there’s always the government safety net– it’s not wrong to use it if you’re a white True Christian™ who’s deliberately trying to reach maximum reproductive capacity.

    And sometimes God provides through the compassion of liberal Christians and nonbelievers toward a needy family. Even if they’ll wind up burning in Hell for all eternity regardless– God works in mysterious ways.