Quoting Quiverfull: Patheos Apostates?

Quoting Quiverfull: Patheos Apostates? March 15, 2014

by Suzanne Titkemeyer

Spiritual Sounding Board wrote about a recent Kevin Swanson hissy fit where he defended ATI’s Bill Gothard, you know the guy, we’ve written about Gothard here a great deal and started speaking out a few months ago about the survivors of his sexual harassment and abuse of teenagers as it’s been reported over at Recovering Grace.

Yes, yes after Swanson wrote about how Gothard should face some sort of investigation of the charges by a board of his peers he’s now done a 180 degrees spin at warp speed, proclaiming those of us on Patheos, SSB and other blogs talking about the situation are ‘apostates’. He just wants us meek little wimmenfolk to shut up about righteous man stuff. No way buddy is that ever happening. If one of our sisters is being abused by patriarchy it ripples out to effect us all. Sweep it all under the rug and pretend all those ladies were having premenstral hallucinations or something is what Swanson wants.

Here’s a transcript of Swanson’s remarks from Spiritual Sounding Board.

 Starting at the 6:00 mark:


You have this kind of thing happening a lot when people are ultimately ignoring the laws of God but taking on their own rules and regulations. Well, all that said, we’re gonna to talk about what is happening right now with fundamentalism, what is happening right now with the homeschooling movement, and precisely what is happening right now with Bill Gothard.


Okay. There’s [sic] some stories right now on Patheos.com, SpritualSoundingBoard.com, which by the way are the apostatizing websites that are dancing on the grave of the old Christian west and certainly anything related to fundamentalism or anything relating to Biblical Christianity. They love it. They love it when they begin to see cracks in fundamentalism.

Now, friends, right now Patheos and Spiritual Sounding Board are the apostatizing websites working hard to drive another 10% out of the organized historical, Biblical churches to a pro-homosexual, pro-socialist, pro-evolution, pro-atheist agenda. I mean, they’re just so excited if they can…they’re sort of like the aprostalites (SIC ed.note Stupid made up fake word by Swanson) of the left you know.

Can we get more to apostatize from the Biblical, spiritual faith, and they’re somewhat successful




mainly because whatever is out there that cloaks itself as a fundamentalist faith often times isn’t that strong anyway. So, anyway. Patheos and Spiritual Sounding Board are dancing on the grave of Bill Gothard and the whole A.T.I. thing right now. This is what’s happened. And the rumors on the street is that there was more sexual abuse of some sort. But here is the deal. As Christians we ought to be very careful when we see these things on public websites, new sites, presenting this information.



We ought to demand two or three witnesses in a proper church court or a proper civil court. That ought to be important to us. And, uh. You know. But Patheos and Sounding Board doesn’t really care that much about it. They just get very excited about the fact that there may be some problem, some compromise, in the life of a spiritual leader. And if they can find that, they kind find the compromise, the moral compromise in the life of a leader, they get very excited because now they know that they can toss out everything that guy ever said about God,


Jesus, honoring mothers and fathers, you know, etc., etc So, if that be the case, you know, they can throw all that out and they can do whatever they want. And how fun that can be, you know. I mean, you know. We don’t have to worry about this adultery thing anymore, don’t have to worry about homosexuality, don’t have to worry about incest, don’t have to worry about pedophilia, we can just celebrate You know, I mean we’re free from anything that this Christian leader ever said because there may be some moral compromise in his life. And that’s why


they get so excited, Steve, I think.

SV:Yeah, and that’s. They want to be free from God. That’s why they’re worshiping themselves, or the whole humanist religion. Because they’ve been seeking to be free from God all their lives. And they can’t get free of Him. And it just, it’s like a cockroach trying to get away from the light to get into darkness. And they’ve found that they can’t get away from the light. And anytime that they can find any kind of darkness within the fundamentalist movement

Kevin Swanson, I just have to ask. Why are all of your shows and writings mentioning bestiality in situations that have nothing to do with bestiality? If you are constantly thinking about sex with animals you should probably find a good counselor in your town. They might even have a publicly funded community mental health organization that has a sliding billing scale that you could surely afford. Normal people do not run about talking about sex with animals all the time. It’s creepy and sick. Please stay away from your neighbors farm animals and away from my precious cats!

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QUOTING QUIVERFULL is a regular feature of NLQ – we present the actual words of noted Quiverfull leaders and ask our readers: What do you think? Agree? Disagree? This is the place to state your opinion. Please, let’s keep it respectful – but at the same time, we encourage readers to examine the ideas of Quiverfull and Spiritual Abuse honestly and thoughtfully

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