Quoting Quiverfull: Who Exactly is the Psycho Here?

Quoting Quiverfull: Who Exactly is the Psycho Here? June 25, 2014

by Jeramy Anderson from Persevero News – Pagan Labels and Their Consequence

Don’t succumb to a label like “bi-polar” or “multi-personality disorder.” Rather, seek for His Kingdom, and then He will give you clarity to be who you were created to be. That is made in the image of God for His worship. Trusting in His Sovereignty frees men from the yo-yo of regular sporadic emotional stints. Yes, we do enter times of grieving during great loss, and the pressures of work and family life often seem to crush our very souls, yet the Sovereign God who created us gives the repentant regenerate Christian joy and the peace that passes all understanding no matter the crises.

Read the piece in its entirety at Persevero News

QUOTING QUIVERFULL is a regular feature of NLQ – we present the actual words of noted Quiverfull leaders and ask our readers: What do you think? Agree? Disagree? This is the place to state your opinion. Please, let’s keep it respectful – but at the same time, we encourage readers to examine the ideas of Quiverfull honestly and thoughtfully.

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  • I can’t even….

  • Jessica Roulston

    As a person with a parent with Bipolar. My life would be hell if she wasn’t on her medications. I know this because she has gone off of them at different times. It is not a depression from life problems. It is a VERY real chemical imbalance in her brain. It can cause her to be the most amazing person to be around one second and so scary you want to get everyone else in the car and drive far away just a few seconds later. So with all due respect to the person who wrote this. shut up, until you have actually dealt with someone with an actual case of one of these neurological problems, no one who has is interested in hearing about how we are all dealing with it the wrong way.

  • Melody

    So recognizing and labelling your metal health problems is wrong because you have to believe in the religious solution? Haven’t heard that one before…sigh.
    Also ordinary feelings of grief have nothing to do with bi-polar or any other psychiatric illness.

  • Joyce

    I’m glad I read this, because otherwise I would never have known that Bi-polar was a pagan thing, and I would never have made that connection on my own. (Can you see me rolling my eyes?). What a horrid, hateful thing to say.

  • Gypsy Rose B

    This explains why some of the bi-polar people I know are also pagans! Suddenly it all makes sense!

  • Allison the Great

    Don’t think, because God. And even if you’re seriously out of your fucking mind, and you think it’s cool to touch children, eat people, or take off all your clothes and do cartwheels in your brother-in-law’s yard, try to make out with his great-aunt all while saying shit like “he has risen, you fucking fools!”, there’s nothing wrong with you, because God.

  • gimpi1

    My husband’s ex-wife bought this nonsense. She’s bipolar. When she converted to the Mormon faith, (one of the big factors in their break-up) she stopped taking her meds. She claimed that God would heal her. Well, that didn’t happen. She’s still bipolar, hasn’t paid taxes on a home-based business in years, is up to her eyeballs in debt and her second marriage is such a mess that her bishop is encouraging her to leave her husband. Yeah, that worked out well.

  • gimpi1

    I also have to wonder what Mr. Anderson has been diagnosed with. The hostility that he seems to have regarding standard mental-health care may have roots in having someone suggest that he needs treatment.

    This is not snark, I’m totally serious. My husband’s ex, that I mentioned earlier, reacted that way when her GP told her she needed to go back on her meds. The idea that her thought-processes were not working right, and she needed help before she should trust her own judgement sent her into a rage.

    She went home and burned all their books in a “burnt offering unto the Lord.” My husband flipped out when he discovered his library in ashes, moved out and filed for divorce immediately.

  • Lynn

    I left Dallas Theological Seminary (and changed religions entirely) because in the first week of class for the Masters in Biblical Counseling program, the chair stated outright that we would learn just enough secular psych theory to pass the state boards, but really the Bible was enough. Happy to say I have a masters from a pagan secular state school 😉 and I can actually help people rather than bash them over the head with the Bible.

  • Nea

    I wouldn’t be surprised at all if he’s been diagnosed, but with this amount of hostility my bet is on someone telling him point-blank that he has to respect their diagnosis.

  • Nea

    Of course he’s going to say that. Every cult leader claims that the only solution to every problem must be found within the boundaries of the cult, regardless of anything real experience says.

  • Kayti Butts

    Well that brought back memories. I left the fairly conservative church I grew up in (and became one of those liberal Pagan women) after having a pastor tell me that my clinical depression was caused by not trusting God enough, and PTSD, Social Anxiety Disorder, and depression were just me trying to get attention. I was 15 and had just gotten out of the hospital after several attempts to try and kill myself (the first time when I was 9). So glad I had the sense (and the chance) to get out when I did.

  • B.E. Miller

    So the fact that God gave some folks the talents to figure out bi-polar and other chemical imbalances of the brains, and talents to come up with the meds to help such folks means nothing? (I keep thinking there’s a joke about how P.O.’ed God is about folks like Jeramy Anderson. And some of the Conservative Christians Against Medications that some of the commenters have run into.)

    He’s so PO’ed how PO’ed is He?

  • Damn… I wasn’t aware that Mormonism went THAT far with faith healing. Granted, I’ve been out for sixteen years. That’s just frightening, to be honest.

  • My late, ex-fiance was bi-polar. He used his faith to talk himself into going off his meds. That’s why he became the ‘ex’. I could say some very nasty things, but I’m in a better mood, tonight, than I was last night.

  • Does anyone have an opinion on him mentioning bi-polar and “multi-personality disorder” in one thought? Bipolar is a common problem. a chemical imbalance which can be a lot better with medication, while the MPD is (as far as I understand) much more serious?

  • gimpi1

    I doubt most of them do. As I said, her bishop has been trying to gently pressure her to clean up her act. He’s also tried to get her back on her meds. She came up with this idea herself. It’s some “Holiness” tangent she’s flown off on. People with bipolar who are unmedicated are prone to that sort of thing.

  • Suzanne Harper Titkemeyer

    I was reading on that last night, the whole MPD thing. It seems that the mental health community is divided on if MPD is an actual condition it is so rare and was unseen in the mental health community before the 1970s. Some are believing it’s a misdiagnosis for some form of Schizophrenia.

  • Jenny Islander

    Speaking as a former sufferer from dissociative identity disorder whose condition resolved with cognitive therapy, I think that it is real, although it’s been sensationalized. I am in no way a professional, so take everything I write here with a grain of salt. My DID seemed to be connected to PTSD, which itself arose from things that happened many years before I entered therapy. Simply put, at times I thought, spoke, and acted as if I were myself many years earlier, and for that period of time the memories and experiences of my later life seemed not to exist in my mind. Sometimes I was aware, in a dreamlike way, of what I was doing, and sometimes I wasn’t and somebody had to tell me afterward what had happened. It seems–again, I am not a professional–that DID arising from traumatic events is somehow connected to the physical condition of the brain that gives rise to PTSD in the first place. If memories of events fail to become dim, perhaps the mechanism that alters personality based on assimilation of experiences also tends to stick. It’s also possible that the extreme compartmentalization practiced by people who are trying to remain functional while stuck in a very bad situation has something to do with it.

    In any case, as my PTSD resolved, dissociative episodes also decreased; I haven’t “grayed out,” as I used to put it, in years.

  • Madison Blane

    No, but depression is a pretty typical phase of the normal grieving process and the down-swing half of bi-polar episodes often requires treatment for severe clinical depression.