Quoting Quiverfull: Controlling Your Thoughts Again?

Quoting Quiverfull: Controlling Your Thoughts Again? August 4, 2014

Anger 2by Colin Campbell from Meat For Men – The Pioneering Spirit: Pulling Down Strongholds

There is much more to obeying Jesus Christ than we realize. Many believe that as long as somewhere in their lives they answered an altar call to receive Christ as Savior, were obedient to be baptized, and go to church regularly, that this is all that is required of them as far as obedience is concerned. The truth is that we are exhorted to be obedient to the everyday leading of the Holy Spirit which validates us as true sons of God. Romans 8:14 says “For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.”

There is another area where we need to be very obedient and is in the area of our thought life.

It is in our thought life that the real spiritual battle rages. It is in the thought life where the enemy of our souls builds up his strongholds. These strong places in our minds where the enemy wants to dwell may be places of fear, insecurities, moods that control not only oneself but also others around us, and impure and unclean thoughts which if allowed to continue will destroy the immature and weak Christian and negatively affect others as well.

Anger and an overly-controlling spirit can destroy your marriage and fatherhood. Many marriages suffer destruction because of this. Worldly thinking and being more concerned with self are fortresses that must be brought down by the use of spiritual weapons. Ambition for fame and men’s applause, and addiction to money or any other addiction are strongholds that have to be torn down.

QUOTING QUIVERFULL is a regular feature of NLQ – we present the actual words of noted Quiverfull leaders or their followers/enforcers and ask our readers: What do you think? Agree? Disagree? This is the place to state your opinion. Please, let’s keep it respectful – but at the same time, we encourage readers to examine the ideas of Quiverfull honestly and thoughtfully.

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  • Mel

    “It is in our thought life that the real spiritual battle rages.”

    Bible verse citation, please.

    Oh, wait….. Judaism is an orthopraxy-based religion instead of an orthodoxy-based religion.

    As a side note from a Catholic, many spirtual advisors help people learn the importance of getting OUT of their heads. If you start being your very own thought police, you are sliding rapidly down a path that leads mild crazy or major crazy. Honestly, you can’t control your thoughts. That’s why the definitions of sins in my church have always emphasized actions. Thinking about hitting your neighbor isn’t a sin; hitting your neighbor is.

  • lh

    Because practicing self-care and taking care of your own mental health is ENTIRELY selfish…
    Seriously, this mindset is so harmful. This is how I grew up and this is the reason I am having to re-learn how to just live and think and feel natural human emotions without suppressing it all and becoming a time bomb. The guilt and suppressed rage become unbearable. Thinking unkind thoughts, having sexual urges, feeling like things are unfair…given my upbringing, I have to consciously remind myself that these are natural and human, and not something that I have to hurriedly suppress and pretend that they didn’t happen.

  • Evelyn

    Totally. And lumping “fears, insecurities and moods” in there as footholds for the devil is so not helpful. I remember growing up learning that anything not done “in faith,” whatever that is, was sinful, because without faith it was impossible to please God. *Anything* could be sin. My first dozen confessions after becoming Catholic, the priest would go down the list and tell me that 90% of what I was confessing wasn’t even sin. So freeing.

  • Joyce

    Thought crime! Yep, read about that in Orwell’s Nineteen-Eighty-Four. Spoiler alert: it didn’t go so well for them.

  • Astrin Ymris

    Well, the last paragraph has some good advice– domestic violence DOES tend to “destroy marriages” and lead to your kids fleeing you and the denomination you espouse ASAP. And all these child deaths associated with TTUAC are bad PR for the CPM, as are the sex scandals resulting from patriarchs taking advantage of the Perfect Victim Pool they’ve created.

    The rest of it reads like a screed against EVER doubting or questioning the belief system, lest after having thought it through rationally, you realize it’s a pile of internally-inconsistent crock created by elaborate eisogesis from a book that can’t be objectively verified in the first place.

  • gimpi1

    “Anger and an overly-controlling spirit can destroy your marriage and fatherhood. “
    That’s why you communicate with your equal partner in your marriage. If you are getting controlling, manipulative or being overly angry, your partner can call you on it. You can call them on it. No warfare required. Just open communication.

    “Worldly thinking and being more concerned with self are fortresses that must be brought down by the use of spiritual weapons.”
    Again, what’s wrong with having your partner gently tell you they think you’re being a bit selfish lately, and helping you to work on it. No siege-weapons needed

    “Ambition for fame and men’s applause, and addiction to money or any other addiction are strongholds that have to be torn down.”
    As opposed to your partner just saying, “We’re doing OK financially, and I think you can back off on the overtime. We miss you around here.” No, there are strongholds that must be torn down. Military metaphors up the wazoo. I guess that’s how you know it’s manly.

  • SAO

    Sounds to me like it’s saying never, ever question any single rule someone has told you in the name of religion. Don’t ask if it’s really Christian to send a man to jail for taking a cookie or two. Don’t ask if God cares about the length of your skirt.

  • ConcepcionImmaculadaPantalones

    I don’t think that God is going to damn me to hell for not attending church regularly, because, JESUS. Same with the swearing, ‘worldly’ clothing, and considering myself not in need of a man to act as my go between with God as I support myself financially and refuse to go to war with myself over the thoughts in my head.

  • Nea

    I take it Colin Campbell is related to Nancy Campbell of Above Rubies in some manner? They both love to slather on the “you are simply NOT! GOOD! ENOUGH! NO MATTER WHAT! Search for the sin or laziness you ARE committing!” attitude.

  • Suzanne Harper Titkemeyer

    He is her husband..ugh

  • Saraquill

    Wouldn’t it be simpler to take an ice pick to the orbital walls of True Christians and lobotomize them, preventing them from thinking bad thoughts?

  • Nea

    One wonders if he learned the holier-than-thou from her, vice versa, or if it was the shared trait that brought them together.

  • Success is now evil? Is there any part of a person’s life people like this don’t want to control and ruin?

  • Strange enough, they first tell you that “being more concerned with self” is evil, but at the same time they encourage you to adopt an obsessive, micro-managerial control of every single thought of yours!
    Are you angry at the dude taking a parking place away from you? BANG, SIN!
    Do you notice how beautiful your new neighbour is? BANG, SIN, AGAIN!
    Are you annoyed at Auntie Maud’s old tales? THIRD STRIKE, GO TO HELL!
    Exhausting!

  • The “problem” is these fundamentalists’ approach to the Sermon on the Mount: they think Jesus was essentially “thought-policing” His disciples, while in reality he simply said that “evil thoughts” are a sort of alarms we should pay attention to, in order to solve little resentments and problems before they are out of control; it was also a critique of the very obnoxious orthopraxy displayed by the Pharisees.
    As Martin Luther put it, temptation is like a bird, she can hit you on your head, but you should never allow her to build her nest there.