Preparing To Be A Help Meet: Knowledge – Tree Frogs and Autism

Preparing To Be A Help Meet: Knowledge – Tree Frogs and Autism October 28, 2014

treefrogby Mel cross posted from her blog When Cows and Kids Collide

Today, we get to delve into Debi’s understanding of medicine and science in general. This chapter is jumps around from topic to topic so I have taken the liberty of combining all of the random paragraphs on medical ideas into a series of posts.

Reflection on what Debi learned from the heart-breaking death of a neighbor’s child:

Did I learn anything? That night changed my life. Never again did I stand in line like a dumb sheep waiting to receive what “professionals” said I needed. I learned that “professionals” were people who were just following orders from people whose only goal was to make a buck.

I don’t see how following professionals is any different from mindlessly following your husband’s orders. In the Pearl household, after all, an entire series of boring and tedious books have been written so that people can mindlessly follow the Pearl’s advice on living and the Pearls can make money.

In other words, Mike and Debi have become the money-grubbing professionals they so despise.

It is true they might have gone to school a few extra years and and learned a different vocabulary; but they were not my baby’s mom, and they couldn’t make wise decisions for him.

Public health professionals – the kind Debi is so hell-bent on skewering – get a minimum of a 4-year Bachelors degree from an accredited college or university followed by a Masters degree from an university. AT MINIMUM. Many are MD/Ph.D holders which is 5 years of study post-Bachelors followed by a 2+ year residency in medicine.

Debi, by contrast, dropped out of Bible college.

Who do you want to take medical advice from?

Time has strengthened my resolve. The older and more “professional” I get, the less I respect the “professionalism” as the voice of knowledge, understanding and wisdom.

Oh, don’t worry, Debi. No professional – with or without quotes – would ever mistake you for a professional.

Many people gain knowledge, understanding and wisdom without a formal, advanced education. Based on Debi’s statements about education, home-schooling, science and agriculture, though, I can’t give her a “wise” rating in any of those fields.

Now, no matter what the issue, before I submitted, I would LEARN everything I could possibly know for the sake of my children’s health and my family’s well-being. The door was open. I started to learn…really learn.

You need to learn about:
Did you know that down in the Amazon there is a tree frog that has horribly toxic poison on its back? The poison does not appear anywhere in nature except the gut of schizophrenics (people with multiple personalities). Isn’t that weird? What does the gut have to do with the brain? This poison is not in the gut of healthy people. Is it found in any other diseased individuals?

Oh, what fresh hell is this?!?

Alright, I know that some tree frogs produce poisons; every kid who goes to the zoo knows that.

I have no idea what Debi is talking about otherwise- so I had to run a Google search.

Debi has run into Dr. Natasha Campbell-McBride’s Gut And Psychology Syndrome (GAPS).

Tip One: When a website cites Dr. Andrew Wakefield AFTER he was struck from the medical register in Great Britain for abusive medical procedures on disabled children and had his research retracted from all major journals due to academic fraud, be aware you are reading crap.

Tip Two: PubMed is a free website that lists the abstracts for the majority of published medical research. Natasha Campbell-McBride has never published a peer-reviewed paper which would have been very easy if she had actual research to back GAPS up.

I am not surprised that Debi fell for this scam. She doesn’t have basic medical knowledge to realize that schizophrenia and multiple personality disorders are different disorders – so how would she realize that the GAPS website is a fraud?

Thanks to a mom and dad who were desperate to find help for their autistic son, we know that the same toxin is found in the gut of autistic kids. Where did their bodies get it? Did it develop there from something they ate? How does the gut relate to a brain disorder called autism? Right now you are unmarried and autism is not an issue with you, but what about two years from now? What are your chances of having an autistic child in two years? Higher than you think?

That mom and dad? Natasha Campbell-Brown is the mom according to Science-Based Medicine.

Debi can’t answer any of the questions she raises here since the first three would require human medical experimentation and the last three are based on so many different statistics that every person’s answer would be different.

I find it pathetic, though, that Debi’s trying to bolster her “wise woman” persona by pretending she has a solution to autism.

Once an unknown disease, autism is now destroying the lives of 1 in every 100 children.

That’s pretty insulting to people with autism.

Plus, this is a woman who recommends hitting infants with tree-branches to promote obedience. How many lives has SHE destroyed?

Each year a greater percentage of healthy two-year-olds suddenly develop strange digestive disorders and bizarre behavioral problems. When the disturbed parents have their child tested they are informed he has autism. Why? What is causing these children to get sick? What can you do to avoid the chances of your child developing autism?

Odd. “Professionals” like pediatricians and child development specialists have noticed that children with autism often start showing symptoms as very young infants. This actual insight has lead to better early intervention for children with autism.

What does Debi recommend to reduce your chances of having a child with autism?

NOTHING. She never actually answers her own question.

Maybe there’s a method to her slip-shod editing after all.

AntiPearl: To mistrust science and deny the validity of scientific method is to resign your job as a human. You’d better go look for work as a plant or wild animal.
P. J. O’Rourke


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Mel is a science teacher who works with at-risk teens and lives on a dairy farm with her husband. She blogs at When Cows and Kids Collide

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  • Nea

    To be fair, Debi doesn’t answer her own question outright – BUT she’s sure plowed, planted, and fertilized the ground for people to decide that Vaccines R Bad.

    Beyond the harm done whipping children with a tree branch, how much harm has been done with children being permanently injured or dying from vaccine preventable diseases? Debi is just as culpable in her culture as Jenni McCarthy – and just as educated.

  • Saraquill

    Debi doesn’t trust medical professionals– so who operated on her neck?

    I’m also guessing Debi has never heard of autistic people who finished high school, college, graduate school, and lead content lives.

  • Evelyn

    SCHIZOPHRENIA is NOT MULTIPLE PERSONALITY DISORDER! Yes, I’m yelling, because I’m so sick of this one, and whenever someone says it, I write them off immediately. Schizophrenia is auditory hallucinations.

  • Edie Moore McGee

    Oh, noes! Does our Debi have something in common with Jenny McCarthy, dolt extraordinaire.

  • Trollface McGee

    This makes my brain hurt…. To the Google!
    “The poison does not appear anywhere in nature except the gut of schizophrenics (people with multiple personalities)”
    So, this particular bit of stupid doesn’t even appear to be a major anti-vaxxer talking point, but from what I can piece together, she’s talking about dermorphin, which is a naturally occurring opioid that was isolated from tree frogs and it’s major use now appears to be as an illegal performance enhancer for horses. It’s a pain killer, so not a poison and I can’t find anything reputable to suggest it has ever appeared in a person without ingestion.

    “Each year a greater percentage of healthy two-year-olds suddenly develop strange digestive disorders and bizarre behavioral problems. When the disturbed parents have their child tested they are informed he has autism. Why? What is causing these children to get sick? What can you do to avoid the chances of your child developing autism?”

    If Debi really cared, she might consult a professional, with years of book learning who may be able to answer those questions. But she doesn’t.

  • Anonyme

    “Thanks to a mom and dad who were desperate to find help for their
    autistic son, we know that the same toxin is found in the gut of
    autistic kids”

    Dafuq did I just read? So poison in the gut* somehow affects the brain? Is there a ‘pipe’ that sends this poison to the brain?

    *Yes, I know “poison in the gut” is BS. Let’s just play along with Debi.

    “Right now you are unmarried and autism is not an issue with you, but what about two years from now?”

    Maybe I’m reading too much into it, but it sounds like Debi’s saying the most horrible thing a child can get is autism.

    “Once an unknown disease, autism is now destroying the lives of 1 in every 100 children”

    Lovely. I –wasn’t– reading too much into the previous statement. *eye twitch*
    I have Asperger’s, which essentially is in the autism spectrum. I also have friends who have “classic” autism–but our lives haven’t been “destroyed”. We do sometimes experience prejudice/generalization, though, and people like Debbie don’t help.

    P.S. It’s not a disease.
    P.S.2: That cracking sound is my desk splitting in two, since I hit it with my forehead several times while reading this. 😛

  • Saraquill

    Not to mention that it’s called Disassociative Identity Disorder, and that many doctors don’t believe it exists. Whereas Schizophrenia is widely acknowledged.

  • Saraquill

    *waves hand* I’m autistic too. Who knew that our condition was caused by people secretly feeding us toxic frogs?

  • Astrin Ymris

    Okay this is something I know about, so let me weigh in: I have severe Irritable Bowel Syndrome, and my medically-trained gastroenterologist has told me that there are a lot of neurotransmitters used in digestion.

    Now, there are some parents and researchers who have suggested that there is a percentage of the population with a GENETIC DEFECT which combined with antibiotic overuse, undiagnosed milk/wheat allergies and a heavy schedule of vaccinations in infancy can push some aspies over the cliff into autism. They suggest research be done to find out how to identify these unfortunates, and place them on an altered immunization schedule to avoid this possibility. That’s all; nobody responsible is calling for an end to vaccination, just a way to avoid an unnecessary risk to vulnerable individuals.

    The problem is, between people like Debi Pearl who simplify this into Vaccination = Evil and a bunch of public health scientists who do the same thing, this nuanced viewpoint isn’t being heard. We have a false dichotomy dominating public discourse on this issue, presenting a choice between slavish adherence to the current Immunization Chart and no vaccinations at all, ever. This isn’t the case.

  • BlueVibe

    I’m Asperger’s. It runs in my family (pre-vaccine, in case anyone has any doubts). My father has a Ph.D. and had a long and very successful career, though, in spite of it. Does it make my life better? Honestly–no. Sometimes it’s very lonely. But it hasn’t ruined it, either.

  • Allison the Great

    Yeah, Mel is right, this is insulting to those of us who are on the Autism Spectrum. But then again, can we expect anything else from that miserable human being that is Debi Pearl? Nope.

    This toxin bullshit that’s in our stomachs? I’ve actually never heard of that. It sounds like bullshit to me.

    Also, this anti-vaccine bullshit makes my blood boil. I have had “Autism Moms” jump on my ass when they’ve found out I’m pro-vaccine. I tell them that I’d rather be like this than have died of a preventable disease at age 2. They jump on my ass when I say that I don’t want a cure, too, because I should want a cure because their son can’t talk. Like I have no right to be happy with the way I am because their son has it worse than me. I do not understand that shit. I can’t stand women like that, either. The guy was asking ME if I wanted a cure for myself, since I am the one who wakes up with it everyday, they weren’t asking that pushy bitch about her son. I’m sorry if that sounds rude but I’m tired of having to deal with shit like that.

    So somewhat off-topic rant over.

  • Baby_Raptor

    Free speech is a great thing but I’m of the opinion that it goes too far. There should be repercussions for people who advocate provably untrue things like this crap that cause real harm.

    Your right to your personal opinion does not trump other people’s rights to not be harmed by bullshit.

  • Nea

    Your right to your personal opinion does not trump other people’s rights to not be harmed by bullshit

    But… but… but — that’s the entire Pearl marketing strategy!

  • Saraquill

    One woman told me “just because vaccines are good for you doesn’t mean that they are.”

    I had no idea how to react.

  • *growl*
    One of my best friends is Autistic. Specifically Aspergers. That she would say that the condition is *destroying* his life… *growl* This Momma Bear is about to show her why she needs to tread softly around my cubs!!!

    I could argue that her books do MORE damage to children than Autism EVER did!!! Or ever WILL!!! *roar*

    I wish the legal threshold for harmful advice required USEFUL exit strategies. It’s not enough to include a “don’t put up with abuse” clause if the clause isn’t USEFUL. I WANT these people to see the cost of their toxic “advice”.

  • One of my cousins was diagnosed with Schizophrenia. I take this fuggin personally.

  • Allison the Great

    Yeah, the part about it “destroying our lives” is bullshit. She didn’t bother to ask us. That’s the beef I have with women who think like this, is that they don’t ask us, and when we speak up and say we like the way we are, well then we get chewed out.

    Aspies have a tough road no doubt, but we learn a lot from it. I know I did. I think that everything I learned hasn’t destroyed my life, but rather, it’s enriched my life. I love it now, well most of it. The overstimulation can be a pain in the ass. I’ve learned to cope with feelings of frustration from that and other things by playing video games so I don’t take out my frustrations on other people. I’ve gotten socialization down – almost. I don’t think I’ll ever fully get it though, and frankly, I’m not that upset about that. People are great in small doses.

    I think the biggest mistake I made in socializing is that I would watch other people do it, instead of doing it myself. This made me put the normal people on a pedestal. When I started talking to them I realized that they don’t have their shit together anymore than I do, and some don’t have their shit together at all.

    The point I’m trying to make is, that this is not something that destroys lives. It’s a hurdle. And everyone – even those who don’t have some sort of disorder or whatever – have huddles that they have to get over. Saying that it destroys lives just proves that she doesn’t know what the fuck she is talking about, and that she should probably shut the fuck up. Debi should stop writing books, she should just shut the fuck up about anything and everything.

  • I agree. Every diagnosis I’ve gotten has actually made things *better* for me. I understand WHY I’m the way I am. I wish I could get all my other issues figured the hell out so that I could finally know what the hell is going on inside my head. I still suspect that I might be mildly Aspie myself, simply because of how *similar* I am to my friend.

    But yeah, being different isn’t WRONG. It isn’t something that *destroys* our lives, if idiots like these don’t MAKE that happen with ignorance and prejudice.

  • Astrin Ymris

    I’ve had most of those. In fact if the “rigor mortis-like muscle stiffness” can manifest itself as painful muscle cramps, I’ve had them all!

    I’m on Align probiotic, which seems to help. I’ve tried Activia yogurt, but it doesn’t set well on my stomach. I’m not familiar with the other things you’ve mentioned– do you have a URL?

  • Anonyme

    YAY! We can be autism buddies and weep about our destroyed lives! 😉

  • Evelyn

    90% of the serotonin in our bodies, which is used by our brains and makes us happy/content, is supposed to be produced in our guts, by the normal flora there. With all the antibiotics around, most people have seriously depleted gut flora. So there’s that, but serotonin is about mood, not autism.

  • About vaccines and autism:
    Autistics themselves are often very clever people who can study a topic that interest them intensely.
    Some autistics believe, from what is currently known, that the measles part of the common measles+mumps+rubella vaccine injection (3 products, combined for one injection) is bad for autistic kids. Note: They don’t say it cause autism.
    The cause and effect is not, so they say: measles vaccine —> Autism.
    It is: Autism and some gut disorders often go together. And children with those gut disorders have negative effects, on the long term, from the measles vaccine.
    But more studies is needed to prove/ disprove the theory. Anyway, the autistics are not anti-vaccination. They suggest splitting the injection into parts, and children who may have said gut disorders should not get the measles vaccine, only the mumps and rubella vaccine.

  • With the Internet, many autistics – even those who cannot speak – can now weigh in with opinions. It seems only a slight generalization to say it is not autistics – even those severely affected – who want a cure. It is parents and society.

  • Rebecca Horne

    And the parents’ desire for one, fairly often as far as I can see, seems based less on true compassion for their kid and more on their own stress levels.

    But…and I don’t have an autistic kid myself, but…as far as I can tell from watching and reading about people who do, the parents who value their kids as they are, learn to communicate with them, and don’t spend all day every day trying to force the kid to pretend they’re not autistic…they seem less stressed. And the kids seem happier.