Quoting Quiverfull: Manly Mice?

Quoting Quiverfull: Manly Mice? October 16, 2014

by Nancy Campbell from Above Rubies – I Want A Man….Not A Mouse



God’s plan for fathers is to be the loving providers, protectors, and priests of their home.

God’s plan for mothers is to be the loving nurturers, nourishers, and nestbuilders of the home.

How is it that egalitarian men are ‘mice’? You cannot just make up random comparisions without explaining the why and be taken seriously. This makes zero logical sense at all. At least they aren’t petty tin-plated swaggering dictators.

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  • Allison the Great

    “No, I will not sign the lib’s petition, to do away with wive’s submission”

    That says it all right there, doesn’t it? I would never want to be a part of something that said that I had to “submit” to someone because genitals. If I’m submitting to anyone, it will be to myself. These women make the mistake of thinking that submission = respect. It does not. When I’ll marry, I’ll respect my husband, of course. But I will never submit to him because I am not a robot, nor am I actress just playing role.

    This meme is just further proof that they don’t care about people. They care about roles. The message is always the same “shut up, keep your head down, spread your legs, and fill your role for you are not what matters, the role is what matters. God does not love you. He hates you if you don’t play your role.”

  • ConcepcionImmaculadaPantalones

    There’s a petition??!!? Evidently the ‘libs’ in my geographical location didn’t get the memo, or they’re just not finished getting signatures up in Northern California yet…it’s a big state with lots of people…perhaps they should have started this petition thingy earlier.

    The CPM folks would completely lose their sh@t if they encountered men who are BDSM submissives. Those guys are quite the contradiction to what CPMs think submissive is, and pretty manly strong types…in all ways but the BDSM one..:P

  • Saraquill

    That was terrible poetry. The symbolism was clumsy, and was there any rhythm? The intent of the piece could have stood to be shorter than four verses too.

  • Trollface McGee

    I notice she uses the word, “choice.” And that’s fine, if she wants to choose to be in an unequal relationship and write bad poetry, that’s her choice.
    But then she wants the rest of us to not have that choice, and that reeks of mouse droppings.

  • Rebecca Horne

    I like the bit about bossing your spouse. They really can’t conceive of a relationship between equals, can they? Either one person is in charge, or the other is…

  • Astrin Ymris

    On a Thread discussing same-sex marriage, a poster said that he’d support it IF one man was required to “play the wife”. When everyone pointed out how ludicrous that was, the guy never posted a reply.

    It really discombobulates members of the Religious Right when they encounter people their sound bites don’t work on.

  • I just vommed a little in my mouth…

  • JeanPing

    It’s time for me to decide:

    Am I a man or am I a muppet?

    If I’m a muppet, well I’m a very manly muppet.

    Am I a muppet or am I a man?

    If I’m a man that makes me a muppet of a man.

    Everybody sing!

  • Nea

    Nancy, We all know you would be beyond miserable if you didn’t have a hubby who let you crow all day on the Internet. Much less one who criticized you at all or didn’t let you have lots of household help.

  • I just love the way godly ignorant individual like Nancy & Debi ignore Biblical history. Sure, women were assigned household duties. The ones we have a tendency to read about in the Bible had servants. They also were not brood mares. Ever noticed how the most ‘blessed’ of women only had one child?

  • gimpi1

    I’ll take my egalitarian “mouse” any day.

    He respects me, and earns my respect rather than demanding it. We value each other’s individuality, rather than forcing conformity to artificial “norms.” We don’t have to bother with submission or dominance, rather, we make decisions mutually. We support and care for each other, both with external work/money and internal work/care. He doesn’t need to be worshiped and mindlessly obeyed to be confident in his masculinity. And that’s what makes him a real man, rather than a caricature of one.

  • gimpi1

    Yes, the role matters, not the individual person. Play your part, look right, memorize your lines, hit your marks, make sure you’re in the right costume and don’t get caught out of make-up. And, whatever you do, don’t do anything that might make anyone question if all this patriarchy nonsense is actually true.

  • Except for simply asserting opinions, including the opinion that men who think otherwise are mice, and things that are not in the Bible (where does the Bible say fathers, not mothers, should be providers and protectors and priests? Where does it say mothers and not fathers should be nurturers and nourishers? ), it asserts things that are simply lies.

    Under no definition of “submission” does the submissive “role” (in the case of “Christian” Patriarchy, an obligation to always submit to the husband) make anyone “completely free.” I say that as a believer in mutual submission, who actually believe people should submit to one anothers needs, in a smaller extend sometimes even to one another’s wants, but certainly not one-sidedly catering to one particular person’s whims all the time.

    “[It] makes me completely free” is a lie. I am sure the teller never even thought about it, but only wanted a “nice” ending. But telling lies is sin.

  • Astrin Ymris

    Really? I just Googled, and Judges 5:24-26 doesn’t say how many children Jael had. Is it mentioned in another verse?