Quoting Quiverfull: Everyone Spanks But Bad Kids Parents Do It Wrong?

Quoting Quiverfull: Everyone Spanks But Bad Kids Parents Do It Wrong? February 18, 2015

quotingquiverfullby Michael Pearl from No Greater Joy Magazine – Attack on Traditional Child Training

Editor’s note: It’s one of the six times a year when the Pearls publish their magazine and spend large parts of it defending spanking children. Turns out Michael is adding new material and chapters to his tome ‘To Train Up A Child’ for the 21st anniversary addition. It looks like a lot of self-justification via studies on child discipline. Notice he has no legitimate study to back his assertions in this paragraph. 

Naysayers are wrong in their assertion that “all studies confirm . . . .” When they do reference a study it is taken from a select group of troubled, violent, or emotionally disturbed youth who have ended up incarcerated or as part of a treatment program. Since most children are spanked, the majority of troubled youth will have been spanked, and a number of them will have been physically abused—hit, beaten, or punished severely. We would be in full agreement with the professionals that the children who were genuinely physically abused are more likely to become delinquent or emotionally troubled. So with certainty, counselors will discover that a large number of anti-social youth were physically abused. But their “studies” fail to distinguish between measured spanking by nurturing parents and violent physical abuse. If they were to do a study of 1,000 Christian, homeschooled children who are spanked, they would grow weary searching for cases of abuse, and they would be shocked and—since it doesn’t fit their philosophy—disappointed at the consistently beautiful fruit.

QUOTING QUIVERFULL is a regular feature of NLQ – we present the actual words of noted Quiverfull leaders and ask our readers: What do you think? Agree? Disagree? This is the place to state your opinion. Please, let’s keep it respectful – but at the same time, we encourage readers to examine the ideas of Quiverfull and Spiritual Abuse honestly and thoughtfully.

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  • bobbiperryman

    Beautiful fruit? I had obedience so drilled into me that I cannot stand up for myself. I also have very low self-esteem and constantly think of myself as a failure. I don’t think spanking helped me at all.

  • Delphini

    Because he was interviewed about this, we know the Pearls are fully aware of Hana Williams, Sean Paddock, and Lydia Schatz and their deaths caused by the Pearl methods. And still, they write this. Horrific and disgusting.

  • Baby_Raptor

    If they were to do a study of 1,000 Christian, homeschooled children who are spanked, they would grow weary searching for cases of abuse, and they would be shocked and—since it doesn’t fit their philosophy—disappointed at the consistently beautiful fruit.

    He’s right, they would get tired of finding abuse cases. 99% of those Christian homeschooled children are being abused in some way, even if they managed to find one who didn’t hit their kids.

    By the way? I have a child and I fostered one for 10 months. Neither have ever been hit by me. It’s totally possible to raise a good, moral child without hitting them.

  • Catherine

    ” If they were to do a study of 1,000 Christian, homeschooled children who are spanked, they would grow weary searching for cases of abuse, and they would be shocked and—since it doesn’t fit their philosophy—disappointed at the consistently beautiful fruit.”

    Statistics alone would make that nearly impossible, I would think. A study of 1000 families of any sort is bound to reveal at least a few cases of abuse.

  • Saraquill

    Reading this makes me wonder what would happen if we developed a machine that converts vanity into electricity and wired him to it.

  • yulaffin

    Dead children can’t be disobedient.

  • Nea

    When they do reference a study it is taken from a select group
    Citation needed.

    their “studies” fail to distinguish between measured spanking by nurturing parents and violent physical abuse
    Nice scare quotes there, Mikey. So tell me, what about the entire countries that have banned spanking? What do incarceration and crime rates tell us about that approach?

    If they were to do a study of 1,000 Christian, homeschooled children who are spanked, they would find 3 kids dead due to your books alone, multiple child abuse lawsuits, and sex abuse scandals by the score.

    We know their names, Mikey. We know the names of the homeschooled children who were spanked to death on your command. That’s the “consistently beautiful fruit” your ministry bears.

    And the fruit of the poison tree…

  • Nea

    He could power the house for his third-world-poor daughter and her layabout husband.

  • Nea

    Hey, look at it this way: At least he’s not going on and on and on about how hilariously funny being told he’s an accessory to homicide is.

  • I offer sympathies. It’s safe here, if you need to talk, and lots of sympathetic, listening ears to talk to. You’re not alone.

  • Victoria

    The kids wouldn’t know it was abusive. We were told that it was the only loving way to be treated.

    Being taught “I hurt you because I love you” is extremely damaging. Even worse is telling your kids that God’s the same way.

  • B.A.

    ((((Hugs to you)))). I’m so sorry you went through that. As MrsGrizzley posted,this is a safe place. No one will judge you;only support you.