Quoting Quiverfull: Spanking to Bring ‘Peace’ and ‘Stability’ Into the Home?

Quoting Quiverfull: Spanking to Bring ‘Peace’ and ‘Stability’ Into the Home? February 13, 2015

quotingquiverfullby Michael Pearl of No Greater Joy – Spank and Save a Child

Editor’s note: This entire piece is part disgusting and part hysterical. Mr. Pearl is ranting against all the naysayers who think spanking is abusive towards children, even as there are studies which prove it is. He’s also upset that his words are being taken out of context for quotes. Bonus points in the piece for his reference to uneducated ‘hillbilly’ women. 

The uninformed who listens to the media would think that spanking is something done by the fringe, an angry and abusive minority. The media uses inflammatory rhetoric like “beat” instead of “spank” or “corporal punishment” instead of “physical discipline,” obscuring a line that is extremely clear to responsible parents.

I read an anti-spanking article by a psychologist that said she did not believe in spanking, but she went on to confess that on occasion she got so angry with her children that she did scream at them. She told of receiving a ten minute lecture in a grocery store from another shopper rebuking her for angry, abusive language toward her children. She also confessed that on occasion her anger had caused her to slap her children in the face. She was ashamed of her behavior and was making a candid confession, but she went on to use her experience as an example of why parents should not adopt a policy of “hitting their children.” The occasional slips were bad enough; don’t institutionalize the practice, she said.

My advice to this professionally trained mother is, “Don’t hit your children; don’t even think about spanking; you need to receive counsel from a hillbilly mother with a sixth grade education before you have any more children; you are out of control.” But her confession points to the reason a small minority associate all spanking with hitting and violence, and why they are categorically against it to the point of pushing for laws criminalizing parents who spank their kids. Indeed, knowing their own weakness and anger, they transfer that violent nature to all parents. When you add to the equation the movie and media characterization of stern, legalistic parents “beating the fear of God” into their kids, they have reason to stand against all spanking. The opponents of corporal discipline have never experienced the kind of peace and stability that allows a parent to spank in love for the good of the child. They know that when they strike their children, it is definitely abusive, and they project that motive to everyone.

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  • Antoinette Herrera

    A cringe inducing exercise in projection (anti spanking advocates can’t control their anger) and humblebrag (we backwoods homeschoolers are better, more loving parents than these college educated elitists).

    Just when I think Michael Pearl can’t be more loathsome, he hits yet another low.

  • Nea

    obscuring a line that is extremely clear to responsible parents.
    Y’know, like the “responsible parents” who were found with dead kids and heavily read copies of your books, Michael.

    you need to receive counsel from a hillbilly mother with a sixth grade education
    OMG, does this refer to Debi? We know she’s a dropout and he makes a big, big deal about being a “mountain man.” Well, I suppose it’s up from being a blemished object, which he has also called her.

    The opponents of corporal discipline have never experienced the kind of peace and stability that allows a parent to hit a toddler so hard “a karate-like wheeze comes from deep inside.” Your words, Mikey. Your own words. When dead kids and gutted toddlers are your idea of peace and love, it’s no surprise you’re known for abuse. Just because you and Debi get a feeling of peace and relief from whipping, just because your own kids describe being pounded into showing only the emotions you wanted to see, doesn’t mean this is a sane and healthy way to raise kids.

  • Grrrrrrrrrrrrrr

    But her confession points to the reason a small minority associate all spanking with hitting and violence, and why they are categorically against it to the point of pushing for laws criminalizing parents who spank their kids.

    That’s because it IS Hitting and Violence, Dumbass!!!!! I was someone who was beat on as a kid and I *know* that it teaches NOTHING but “he who is the biggest bully wins”, and that is NOT the lesson that Jesus would have us teach our children, or that he would have our children learn.

    I swear… some days I want to throttle him (Michael Pearl, that is). *goes looking for LJF’s Virtual Tea, not enough Nope in the world for this jackwagon*

  • Saraquill

    Translation: I AM SO GREAT I AM SO GREAT!!eleven!

  • Amarad

    Calling BS on his ‘story. I want a citation for this incident he seems to have pulled out of his behind. I won’t deny the possibility that a real licensed psychologist (not a biblical counselor woo-woo fake one) exists who also has some anger-management and might have shouted at their child, but I think his version is either fake or FAR out of context. Not to mention missing the point.

    “The opponents of corporal discipline have never experienced the kind of
    peace and stability that allows a parent to spank in love for the good
    of the child.”

    Which translated from Pearl: “I am awesome with no faults I will acknowledge. And with enough blind faith in your heart and turning off any empathy or compassion that might make you realize you are inflicting pain and violence. That you are hitting a child, a powerless human being. You too can be like me! A cold, heartless, abusive automaton who beats my children, and assaulted my wife until she no longer refuses me.”

    *ugh*

  • Astrin Ymris

    Re: “…The media uses inflammatory rhetoric like “beat” instead of “spank” or “corporal punishment” instead of “physical discipline,”…”

    Corporal punishment isn’t inflammatory rhetoric; it’s the detached, clinical terminology both opponents and proponents have used for decades in discussing the issue. Mr. Pearl is engaging in historical revisionism here.

    It’s also clear from Michael’s published works that he advocates upping to ante to what could only be called “beating” if his prescribed intensity of physical force doesn’t yield to results he promises.

  • teaisbetterthanthis

    Spanking. is. Hitting.
    Spanking. IS. Hitting.
    SPANKING. IS. HITTING.

    Spanking is defined by words like “strike” and “blow”. Those words are synonymous with “hit”. The PHYSICAL ACT of spanking is HITTING, whether with a hand or object.

    SPANKING IS HITTING, MICHAEL PEARL.

  • Nea

    Side comment: the redirect to MySpace is so bad on the iPhone that I could not load comments; it spun and spun and then took me to MySpace. I read and am commenting via a third party app instead of safari.

  • ForPhyllis

    Speaking as a hillbilly (albeit one with a higher edu-ma-kay-shun than sixth grade), I’m highly insulted that Mr. Pearl would lump himself (or his wife) in with us. However, I do recommend his sending anyone to us hillbillies to discuss spanking (aka beating) children as we are actually against doing so. You see, we truly believed Jesus when he said it would be better for a millstone to be tied around our necks and for us to be tossed into the sea than to hurt little ones. I guess Mr. Pearl fancies himself as a very strong swimmer. No surprise there.

  • Baby_Raptor

    MySpace still exists? Mind=blown.

  • Baby_Raptor

    The opponents of corporal discipline have never experienced the kind of peace and stability that allows a parent to spank in love for the good of the child.

    You’re right. Those of us who are against hitting defenseless people half our size for the “crime” of doing something we didn’t like have never known the “peace and stability” of completely ignoring fact, common sense and empathy in order to convince ourselves that using violence against a child is okay simply because we think so.

  • Baby_Raptor

    Well, when Jesus starts preventing things that he supposedly dislikes so much, let me know. Til then, you’ll have to forgive me if I think you’re projecting your own common sense onto a book because you can’t deal with the fact that it actually says horrible things.

  • ForPhyllis

    I think my common sense helps me deal with the horrible things a book says just fine. 😉

  • Victoria

    I’ve heard spanking lauded as a way to help the parent hold their temper – because they knew how to deal with their children properly, they didn’t have to shout at them. The implication of having aggression that must come out one way or another is disturbing.

    And no matter how ‘cleansing’ or ‘peacemaking’ spanking was supposed to be, I never remember it as bringing peace … I remember it as something that convinced me to give up.

  • Nea

    The implication of having aggression that must come out one way or another is disturbing

    According to those psychological experts the Pearls, Dobson, & Phillips, the default state of a male is barely controlled violence at all times. This is “manly” and making damn sure you’re at the top of every heap at every time is a proof of both your penis size manliness and God’s approval.