Quoting Quiverfull: Part 1 Homeschoolers Embracing The World?

Quoting Quiverfull: Part 1 Homeschoolers Embracing The World? June 23, 2015

quotingquiverfullby Michael Pearl from No Greater Joy – Jumping Ship

Editor’s note: From what Michael is saying in this article is that good Christian homeschooling parents have failed significantly if their children, the SGA, rush off to embrace all the things that the Pearl method parents seek to shield the SGA from in their childhood years.

Regardless of the prestige of their vocations, we have a new generation of godly parents, not having been tainted by the world. They are now building heavenly marriages and raising a fresh new breed of stable, godly children. While the public school system continues to degenerate into a drug-stupid, sex-oriented, illiterate morass of misfit, Marxist clones, the homeschool movement is producing intelligent, clear-thinking, confident citizens ready to stand in the middle of cascading corruption and declare their allegiance to God and family.

However, not all homeschoolers become success stories. A few fail to measure up fully, while a small percentage fail miserably. Not all homeschool families create themselves equally. Homeschool children are the product of their parents and the culture they provide. There is nothing magical about homeschooling itself. It is just a context in which to conduct parenting without interference from humanistic government and the influence of contemporary cultures, which are causing the “devil-lution” of society. When parents choose to homeschool, they are choosing to become the primary example and the prevailing culture for their children. They are “cloning” their worldview—an enormous commitment of responsibility before God.

However, there are two problems. In the first place, some parents are not always good stock for “cloning.” The world doesn’t need more people “just like them.” Secondly, and this will be the main point of our present discussion, there is nothing easy or automatic about culture cloning. You cannot take it for granted that your children are going to adopt your perspective on life. It takes serious commitment and wisdom to duplicate your heart and soul in your children. There was a time, many years ago, when the community life (church, school, the extended family, friends and neighbors) all pointed the children in the right direction–a godly direction. Sometimes when parents failed to be good trainers and examples, their deficiency was rectified by grandparents, aunts, uncles, cousins, and the local church, around which all social life revolved. But no more. The average church today will send your children to hell as fast as the local video rental store. Community life has gone the way of the old familiar front porch and grandma sitting there shelling beans. Today, you have to be on guard for your uncles and cousins, who may attempt to molest your children. Our present culture is scary enough to send a family packing to the Amazon, taking their chances with drug lords, anacondas, and malaria.

QUOTING QUIVERFULL is a regular feature of NLQ – we present the actual words of noted Quiverfull leaders, cultural enforcers and those that seek to keep women submitted to men and ask our readers: What do you think? Agree? Disagree? This is the place to state your opinion. Please, let’s keep it respectful – but at the same time, we encourage readers to examine the ideas of Quiverfull and Spiritual Abuse honestly and thoughtfully.

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  • pinkie

    “When parents choose to homeschool, they are choosing to become the primary example and the prevailing culture for their children. They are “cloning” their worldview—an enormous commitment of responsibility before God.”

    *looks at the previous paragraph* Didn’t he just describe public school children as clones?

  • Julia Childress

    The elders of every era believe that the world started going to hell when they started getting old. Yes, like Mikey, I wax nostalgic for the Beaver Clever 1950’s and 60’s, but I know my memory is selective and screens out the stuff that doesn’t fit what I like to believe. The world is a messy, ugly place and always has been. Relatives have been molesting children since forever. At least we now have reporting procedures and CPS. Oh, I forgot, you fundies don’t like CPS. Community life is alive and well. Okay, maybe community life is a challenge if you’re a religious weirdo and professional rantmeister. And I’m sorry, but plenty of families of the era of the Beav had a funny uncle, alcoholic cousins, child-abusing neighbors, or wife-abusing in-laws. Not all of the relatives were busy pointing the kids in a Godly direction. I know it’s hard to believe, but the present scary culture is going to represent the good old days for a lot of people.

  • RetroPam

    The fundies don’t like CPS when they rein in the fundies’ own abuses. But they wouldn’t hesitate to dispatch CPS after any parents who support or allow anything that the fundies disapprove of. Nudist parents, look out.

    I love the rest of that comment, too, because I love the positive aspects of the 1950s so much that I consciously keep the traditions and lifestyle alive in our home. I love to set a proper table and I smile when a guest at our home or at a potluck samples my cooking and says “I’ve never seen mac and cheese done like that before! It’s great!”

    But yes, the 1950s had their dark sides too: the racism that was overt even by today’s standards, the abusive parents among whom I can count my own, the repressive social legislation, and the alcoholic uncles.

    I too am guilty of wondering what sort of culture and world we are leaving our grandchildren; creating for them a world in which they are somehow expected to plunge headlong into tens of thousands worth of student debt for a prayer of a chance at a middle class lifestyle, to afford rents and home prices that have risen even faster than health care costs, raise children, prepare for their higher education, and still have enough to save for retirement. I honestly don’t know how the youngest generation is going to do it.

  • katiehippie

    “some parents are not always good stock for “cloning.”

    No kidding Michael.

  • Antoinette Herrera

    I see that Michael Pearl has ditched the nice guy act. Must have chafed, having to pretend that he wasn’t a horrid misogynist brimming over with contempt for women, children, education, and anyone that didn’t follow his instruction to the letter.

  • Mel

    Marxist clones, pinkie, Marxist clones.

    Pearl clones are totes different and better.

  • Julia Childress

    Being concerned about what the future holds is not unreasonable. My personal concern is the way in which technology will change the way our children and grandchildren will live. What I have to keep going back to is the way that things can change in ways that we never expected. For example, having grown up in duck-and-cover America, I never could have seen the dismantling of the USSR with hardly a shot fired. Same for ridding South Africa of apartheid. And the death sentence that was AIDS just 20 years ago, is now a chronic condition that while still not curable, is at least treatable. So I have high hopes that some of the things we fear will be solved in creative and unexpected ways.

  • Nea

    While the public school system continues to degenerate into a drug-stupid, sex-oriented, illiterate morass of misfit, Marxist clones provide near 100% of the country’s inventors, doctors, politicians, teachers, organizers, and other movers and shakers…

    the homeschool movement is producing intelligent, clear-thinking, confident citizens ready to go on TV and sincerely say that being fondled by your brother totally isn’t incestuous molestation because they have no idea what some words mean, much less how to earn a living if the spigot of TV money shuts off.

    some parents are not always good stock for “cloning.” The world doesn’t need more people “just like them.”
    Michael, you need to say this much more often. Preferably while looking in a mirror.

    You cannot take it for granted that your children are going to adopt your perspective on life. It takes serious commitment and wisdom and a hell of a lot of vicious whippings to make sure you shatter them into hopeless human beings who cannot have a healthy relationship or work well enough to give themselves basic sustenance but who are totes guaranteed to loudly repeat the family line.

    Today, you have to be on guard for your uncles and cousins, who may attempt to molest your children
    You also have to be on guard lest anyone find out that their brother is definitely doing it.

  • Nea

    Yes. He really is simply too stupid to keep from contradicting himself every time he opens his mouth.

  • Anonyme

    “The average church today will send your children to hell as fast as the local video rental store.”

    Do ‘video’ rental stores even exist anymore? The only thing remotely close is Redbox or some adult entertainment stores.

  • Rachel

    I left the Church because I am my own person, don’t go dragging parents into this. My parents did everything they were told would keep us on the Straight and Narrow. I left not because they weren’t fit for “cloning,” but because I’m not an f-ing clone.

  • There’s one in the town where I work. They have free kids movie rentals. Maybe Dora’s next adventure is to hell?

  • KarenH

    It’s her next trip for GEICO 🙂

  • Mermaid Warrior

    Or maybe kids aren’t robots that can be programmed to do whatever you want without problem. Maybe kids, and the adults they grow into, have minds of their own and aren’t gonna believe everything they were raised to believe no matter what.

  • Astrin Ymris

    All children are clones to Michael, mindlessly performing their programmed functions. “Free will” isn’t a thing to him.

  • Astrin Ymris

    Michael and Debi’s own children hardly seem to be such shining exemplars of “intelligent, clear-thinking, confident citizens” that they should be giving ANYONE childrearing advice.

    It seems that children aren’t mules any more than they’re clones.

  • gimpi1

    “While the public school system continues to degenerate into a drug-stupid, sex-oriented, illiterate morass of misfit, Marxist clones, the homeschool movement is producing intelligent, clear-thinking, confident citizens ready to stand in the middle of cascading corruption and declare their allegiance to God and family.”
    OK, this quote confirms it. Mr. Pearl lives in alternate universe. No one living anywhere near the real world could come up with such drivel. In reality, the vast majority of people educated in the public schools are going on to higher education and becoming responsible, productive citizens. So are the majority of people who are home-schooled. So, perhaps, parents should pick the best form of education for their children and lay off the attempting to create ‘mini-me’ clones.

    ” Today, you have to be on guard for your uncles and cousins, who may attempt to molest your children.”

    Sadly, that has always been the case. In fact, it appears to be more common in isolationist groups like some extremist religious sects. It’s not related to modernity in any way. What is new is taking kids seriously and trying to protect them, rather than assuming that kids are lying, or that the child (especially girls) was somehow ‘tempting’ the assailant.

    Mr. Pearl again displays his near-absolute lack of understanding about how the world really works. Big surprise…

  • gimpi1

    OK, now I want your Macaroni and Cheese recipe…

  • BridgetD

    Nice scare tactics Michael Pearl. I particularly appreciate the irony of this sentence:

    “Today, you have to be on guard for your uncles and cousins, who may attempt to molest your children.”

    Because that NEVER happened in days gone by, particularly not with good Christian folk! Oh wait…

  • BridgetD

    There’s one in my town too, and they do free kids rentals and free rentals for straight A students…same company maybe?

    …Actually, something occurred to me. This store carries a lot of child-friendly material, including Veggie Tales. Pearl said that video stores send kids to hell, so if a parent goes to the video store and rents that, does that mean that Veggie Tales sends kids to hell? Is the devil hiding behind the singing animated vegetables and Bible verses?

  • Plain English

    Our endeavor is to love our kids, to remain in relationship with them and support them as they make their choices. What comes will come and they will face it knowing love and support…. that is all about today, what love we offer today. That kids are not given over to abusive paradigms is a great victory….

  • Plain English

    And maybe we can love them and listen to them when they are babes and kids….. I suspect that many of us here are trying very hard to accomplish just that….

  • Plain English

    He displays an enormous amount of pain in his writings….. I feel so sad for bipeds who must be exposed to him on a regular basis…

  • RetroPam

    12 oz. elbow macaroni, uncooked weight (small or regular size)
    3 Tbsp butter, used in pea-sized chunks
    ¾ tsp salt (¼ tsp per layer)
    ½ tsp onion salt (1/6 tsp per layer)
    4 cups sharp or medium cheddar, grated (1 1/3 cups per layer)
    ½ tsp black pepper (1/6 tsp per layer)
    lowfat or nonfat milk, to nearly cover (about 4 cups)
    paprika

    Boil macaroni according to package instructions, usually for 9 minutes.

    In a buttered 9″ by 13″ baking dish, add the following ingredients in three layers, with each layer consisting of: cooked macaroni, with grated cheddar and butter chunks on top. Sprinkle each layer with pepper and salt; lightly dust with onion salt. Gently compress each layer with a spoon or spatula.

    Gently pour the milk onto the finished three layers, enough to almost cover. Sprinkle with paprika to taste and desired color.

    Bake in a moderate oven (350° F, in modern language) for 50-60 minutes, or until consistency is no longer watery. Let stand for 5-10 minutes after baking.

  • Antoinette Herrera

    Not that quadrupeds fare much better under his care. And I use that word with great irony.

  • Mermaid Warrior

    THIS DOES NOT COMPUTE *explodes*

  • gimpi1

    Thanks so much. Mac and Cheese is my go-to comfort food, and I’m always looking for new recipes. I love that you don’t have to make a sauce here – just assemble the ingredients in layers and let convection do the work. I’ll try it soon. Thanks again!

  • RetroPam

    It refrigerates and reheats really well, too. (Yes, I let myself cheat in the microwave when reheating stuff)

  • Plain English

    Just an encouragement to listen to our babies/kids, that connection with them is the goal and not to control their minds. When they are able to be free they are free to say ‘no’ or whatever… Pearl does not need to listen to them… He already knows what is right and how he will punish them.