Planet Mommywood Replies to Vyckie Garrison

Planet Mommywood Replies to Vyckie Garrison July 20, 2015
Here, have a Sky Goat. Makes as much sense as the Planet Mommywood ladies. Image by Suzanne Titkemeyer
Here, have a Sky Goat. Makes as much sense as the Planet Mommywood ladies. Image by Suzanne Titkemeyer

by Suzanne Titkemeyer

This morning one of our readers emailed me a link to a duo I’ve quoted here a couple of times in our Quoting Quiverfull feature and that Vyckie Garrison mentioned rather kindly and stated nothing derogatory about in one of her postings— Quiverific!. The Planet Mommywood (is this a play on names ala Planet Hollywood and its over priced burgers? Confusing?) ladies, Jenn and Kristen, did a video in reply to Vyckie’s article.

Here’s what Vyckie said about their video on Facebook earlier today:

Quiverfull moms, Jenn and Kristen, from Planet Mommyhood made a YouTube video “responding” to my “Quiverific” post on No Longer Quivering in which I didn’t actually say anything derogatory about either of them. Despite how kindly I wrote about their version of Quiverfull, these two apparently felt defensive enough to devote 13+ minutes laughing too loud while insisting that they are NOT being abused.

They also have some advice for me: Don’t be a follower! If only I’d have truly known Jesus, everything would’ve been super cool and awesome because True Christians™ never abuse or get abused. Too bad for me … I just wasn’t doing Christianity or Quiverfull right … obviously.

Interestingly, I just put together a new presentation for the upcoming Gateway To Reason conference titled “A Quiver Full of Abuse” in which I blatantly state that 100% of Quiverfull families are abusive:

There is a huge emphasis on hierarchy and authority in the minds of fundamentalist believers and it is this emphasis on patriarchy which guarantees that, to the degree in which the family puts Quiverfull ideals into practice, that family IS living a dysfunctional relationship dynamic which necessarily involves mental, emotional, and spiritual abuse … and too often there will be physical and sexual abuse as well

The big problem with people who are practicing Quiverfull while trying to pretend they are not is that they are really having to perform a mental gymnastics over every aspect of their lives. Cult brainwashing creates these internal cognative dissonance issues that look so crazy to the outside world but must be protected at all costs within the cult.

How do people fall for these types of cults? When you’re hurting inside, longing to be part of a loving, accepting family. They join to have friends, a real sense of community and connection. They come in vulnerable, open, accepting the brainwashing until they can no longer see the reality of this culture they’ve joined. The deeper you immerse yourself into the cult such things as worldly exterior appearances go by the wayside and you do eventually withdraw from the real world. Neither seem to be at the point of jumpers and no makeup, but wearing eyeliner and speaking in flippant language just means they aren’t fully immersed yet. Reentry can be difficult.

Dear ladies of Planet Mommywood we’re here for you when you start to realize what a dangerous thing you’ve been sold and you need healing from what you’ve been through.

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  • Friend

    Their message: You’re not qualified to talk about me, but I’m free to talk all about you. Here’s what happens around 5:12:

    Person on left: “What Vyckie [Garrison] lived was an abusive life. She was an abused woman. And her husband used the name Quiverfull to make it okay. That didn’t mean they were Quiverfull. That did not mean that that man knew Jesus. He knew his name, he knew his words. But that did not mean he had a relationship with him. Because if he did, he would never lay his hands on his wife.”

    Person on right: “Absolutely not. ’Cause no real man ever does.”

  • Astrin Ymris

    Sounds just like Micheal’s excuses: If you, your spouse, and your children aren’t enjoying a blissfully-happy family life following CPM/QF instructions… then obviously you aren’t doing it right, and any problems experienced are your fault! And you were never really a Christian, either, because if you had been, it would have worked as promised. So there!

  • BondGurl7

    Wow. I don’t know what was worst; their over-the-top attempts at humor, the constant interrupting to one-up each other, the loud cackling, or the lack of cohesiveness in what they were saying.
    Also, apparently “Christian” seems to have been replaced by the *hip* new term “Christ Follower”.

  • Allison the Great

    What the fuck is a pitch knife? Sorry, but that’s as far as I got.

  • Friend

    They were pretending to make fun of peasants with pitchforks.

  • Friend

    I can’t believe I just composed that sentence.

  • Nea

    Hmmm. Anyone wanna take my $5 bet that both the women talking lay hands on their children, not only spanking but beating with implements?

  • Allison the Great

    It’s hilarious that they can’t even make fun of peasants with pitchforks. We’re not laughing at their jokes, we’re laughing at their attempts to be funny and the fact that they think they are funny. Those poor, delusional doormats.

  • Antoinette Herrera

    Love it when people trot out the No True Scotsman fallacy.

  • Antoinette Herrera

    Against my better judgment, I watched the Planet Mommywood video. The 13-plus minutes it took to watch this were minutes I could have spent watching K-pop reaction videos.

    (Actually, most reaction videos have better production quality overall. At the very least, these moms need to adjust the audio feed.)

    Now, to their condescending and flippant reply to Ms Garrison: who are they trying to convince here? I think the only people they can hope to convince are moms who already share their POV. And, frankly, it seems that these mothers are trying to convince themselves that they’re just Christians who are, in no way, part of the Quiverfull movement. (But if you get saved, stay at home to raise your kids, yada yada, well, that’s just God’s plan for your life.)

    Why they act like they’ve never heard the word “Quiverfull,” before, or checked Psalm 127 for the reference, is beyond me. The regurgitated Christianese is annoying, and again, condescending.

    I haven’t left a comment, merely a downvote. While I wish the women of Planet Mommywood well, I must add three remarks:

    1) If you’re “sharing a brain,” that speaks poorly of your intelligence and your intellectual curiosity;
    2) Critical thinking is a wonderful thing, not to be sneered at or destroyed in the name of any deity; and
    3) Pink ombre and imitation Pop Art do not make you edgy or cool. You just come off like one of those youth pastors who tart up their speech with “hip” language. It’s embarrassing.

  • BlueVibe

    I confess there is no way I’ll be able to watch this, but “Don’t be a follower”? Are they kidding? From the subculture that depends on people following absolutely??

  • Astrin Ymris

    Poor-bashing is a common Tea Party tactic.

  • GreenEggsNSamm

    Aww they disabled comments. I was looking forward to seeing what folks outside of this blog had to say. They must really be afraid of hearing the truth.

  • ConcepcionImmaculadaPantalones

    Some of the tea party supporters are convinced that they are part of the middle class – maybe because the politicians who need their vote tell them they are or would be if they just vote for them on election day. It’s sad when so many are fooled into voting for politicians and ballot measures that are against their interests and *that* is one of the reasons things in this country have worsened. Oh, and the apathy towards participating in the political process many educated people seem to have.

  • gimpi1

    It fascinates me, how many times people in this sub-culture put up blog-posts with disabled comments. I mean, what’s the point? If all you want to do is preach to the choir, you don’t need internet access.

    If you can’t take the heat… oh, wait, they aren’t allowed out of the kitchen.

  • Astrin Ymris

    I don’t know if any studies have been done of this, but I wonder if True Christians™ are more likely to view themselves as “temporarily embarrassed millionaires” than more secular Americans. If you believe in the Social Gospel (and disbelieve in reality-based thinking) it seems plausible that you’d be more likely to buy that line of bull.

    I agree that the voter apathy of liberals and moderates have helped things along. We wouldn’t be in such a bad situation today if we’d remembered that “Eternal vigilance is the price of liberty.”

  • ShinyZubat

    Goodness gracious, that blown out audio! >_< My poor ears.

    "I'm not going to be like, you know what, I want to follow a really strict cult…"
    Yeah, I'm pretty sure no one who was ever in a cult said that either. What's your point?