Quoting Quiverfull: Part 1 Teach Your Children to Fear You or Have Them Harmed?

Quoting Quiverfull: Part 1 Teach Your Children to Fear You or Have Them Harmed? February 12, 2016

quotingquiverfullby Michael Pearl from No Greater Joy – Organize and Manage

Editor’s note: Michael starts with what is obviously one of his faker, more made up stories, in order to blame and shame a father protrayed as trying to protect his young daughter. Do any stores have huge heavy automatic doors that swing like this as he describes them as a ‘child-swatter’? What’s so wrong about a father rescuing their child from a dangerous situation (even a fake one in a story like this) and dealing with the child later about not listening to what they were saying? Yes, folks, another treatise on beating fear into your child to make them mind. One note Michael. Keep in mind the child he is describing is an eleven mother old baby, not a child with the ability to reason or understand danger. A baby this age is not going to understand why you are hurting them either.

Eleven-month-old Suzie was hurrying across the store toward the big, swinging, automatic doors. Her Daddy saw the danger and called, “Suzie, come back here.” But the sound of his command lacked finality and expectancy which was confirmed by his immediate jumping up and racing to intercept the child before the doors swung open again. When Suzie heard his voice, she looked over her shoulder and picked up speed, running away in an almost stumbling, controlled fall, as if there were a wonderful prize at some finish line. I could see that she was thrilled with the chase. Daddy, too, was running and he caught her just before a customer on the outside stepped past the infra-red beam that would cause the 150-pound door to swing open like a giant child-swatter. Suzie just laughed and squirmed to get free. Mother looked a little distressed, and Daddy looked as if he were wishing he was back at work, bossing his employees who not only paid attention to his commands but even to his suggestions—at least the ones he keeps on the payroll.

I have observed and engaged a sufficient number of parents, both in action and in conversation, to have made a very good guess about what this frustrated father was thinking. I’m certain he was proud of his patience and tenderness, knowing that he was not being overbearing or insensitive toward this child. His philosophy clearly is, “She’s a handful, but kids will be kids! Just love them, and in time they will turn out all right.” No doubt, he was solaced by the fact that in the best of times she responds to his commands. He has “faith” that such a sweet child will survive and eventually “grow into” obedience.

I cautiously mentioned to him that he could actually train her to stop upon command, pointing out how much safer it would be if she obeyed instantly. He brushed it off with, “Oh, she is not being disobedient; we play games like that.” And then he made some comment about how he didn’t like to spank his children except in extreme situations. He didn’t really consider it to be disobedience in a child so young. He was a foolish young father, not yet having seen the final end of the seeds of self-will and rebellion he was sowing.

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  • Nea

    Or they could invest in a child leash until the kid is old enough to understand where chase games are appropriate and where they are not. But a passive, non-punitive system that isn’t all about Respect Daddy’s Every Whim OR ELSE has no place in Mikey’s insecure world.

  • SAO

    No, the father doesn’t have faith the child will grow into obedience; he has faith the child will grow into reason and sense, will develop sound judgment. And the child almost certainly will. There are plenty of ways to protect toddlers from the consequences of toddlers’ judgment, without beating them for behaving like normal toddlers.

  • Antoinette Herrera

    Shorter Michael Pearl: It’s never too soon to thrash your little hellspawn till they comply to your will.

  • Melody

    Samantha Field just wrote a blog about this: “The main problem I have with the above is all those people complimenting fundamentalist parents on “well-mannered” children have no freaking idea what it takes to achieve children who behave like that. [..] The methods used to create children who are always smiling, who always obey instantly, who never go through individuation, who never talk back– they should horrify us because they are nightmarish.”

    Really well-behaved children could just as easily be far too scared to behave ‘defiantly.’ Which is not a good thing at all.

  • KarenH

    Michael, she’s an INFANT (11 months old). Fuck you.

  • texassa

    The Pearls belong in prison.

  • texassa

    All of their anecdotes are fake. Fake people, fake brains, fake stories, fake souls.

  • MizzKittay

    Right! Children don’t learn boundaries unless they test them.

  • Joyce

    Why is it that when people like this write fake stories, they always use names from the 1950s? Tell me a story about little Suzie, Bobby, or Billy, and I will know you are lying to me.

  • Astrin Ymris

    It’s possible that this incident DID happen, and the father responded appropriately to this stranger’s telling him to get some plumbing line and “train” his 11-month-old. So Michael re-wrote this little scene to suit his purposes, because no other man can EVER fail to acknowledge Michael as his rightful alpha, ever. Such things simply do not happen in the Michaelverse. Inconceivable!

  • Astrin Ymris

    You’re probably right.

  • Edie Moore McGee

    With kids this age, just about any situation where you’d even be tempted to spank a kid can be avoided with a little planning. It’s not rocket science.

  • Nightshade

    ‘I cautiously mentioned…’ When did Mikey-boy start being cautious in telling everyone around him how to raise their kids?

  • Nea

    Good point. Odds are phenomenal that he doesn’t have the guts to risk confrontation with anyone his size anywhere outside his cult. Any man stronger than him could deck him; any man more secure than him could point and laugh. Either way would shatter Mikey’s world.

  • pl1224

    Obviously this is a very inexpertly made-up story. Eleven-month-old children rarely “run” with any degree of purposiveness and speed–if they run at all, which is almost never since kids that young are still perfecting their crawling and maybe their initial standing and walking skills.

  • pl1224

    Exactly! Eleven month old babies do not run–end of discussion.

  • texassa

    Even better than disciplining children is keeping them in cages. This may initially strike you as cruel, but upon further examination you will see that it is in the best interest of the child and is done in love. In these child-sized cages, the children will not be able to injure themselves in a household accident. They cannot run away when you are occupied and wind up in the street in the way of traffic. And – if you keep them padlocked – there will be no risk of abduction of your children. And beyond the ensuring of their physical safety, cages also provide the comfort of spiritual safety for children. From their cages, they will not be able to access television or internet content that would damage their purity. They will not be able to interact with sinful outsiders who bring satan’s influence. And most importantly they will not be able to interact with other children of the opposite sex which would surely damage any child’s purity. I think you will all agree with me that it is not only in the best interest of children but also aligned with god’s will to keep your children in cages in the home until they are of an age to begin helping significantly with household chores.

  • Astrin Ymris

    I’ve known some early walkers, so I won’t say it’s impossible for an eleven-month-old to run– but it’s even more likely that Michael either 1) guessed her age wrong, or 2) changed her age to support his thesis that babies “need” to be whipped.

    Or possibly invented the entire story out of the whole cloth.

  • zizania

    I was walking by 7 months, and could probably have managed a tottery run by 11 months, but I don’t think I would have been hard to catch.