NLQ Question of the Week: Why is Government so Feared?

NLQ Question of the Week: Why is Government so Feared? May 26, 2016

QuestionoftheweekThis is a new series we have started running on Thursdays. Examining some of the questions involving long held Quiverfull theology and life.

While reading through Zsuzsanna Anderson’s blog one thing jumps out again and again that I’ve noticed in most of the more conservative Evangelical and Quiverfull blogs – Fear of the federal government as some evil beast seeking to destroy Christian families. Like this bit from Anderson:

Instead of men obeying God, wives obeying their husbands, and children obeying their parents (God’s line of authority, all tempered by mutual love and respect), we can all be oppressed by a hateful government and live in the midst of chaos and violence. I’m glad that our family has God to watch over and protect us, because things are only bound to become worse as our government gets more and more involved.

Is it verklempting about who is in control? Weak patriarchs that cannot abide having to answer to anyone else not God? Christian martyrbating? Fear of what they cannot control?

Bonus questions: Why are the same folks in fundamentalism that decried Donald Trump as an anti-Christ now endorsing him as the chosen candidate for them? Is the thought of a woman controlling their futures that threatening? Why?


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  • RetroPam

    The fundamentalist base is now lining up behind Trump because they do not fear government per se. They trust government with every atom of their being, as long as they are the ones in control of it. Hijacked interpretation of Romans 13, and all that. They only appear to fear or dislike government when nicer people are in charge.

    What did Trump do to earn their sudden adulation? He promised to appoint Supreme Court judges who would allow them to use the power of government to do anything that they wish to the people whom they want to persecute, whether it’s LGBT Americans, non-Christians, or non-submissive women.

    They envision the creation of a Michael Pearl government someday, one that never lends a helping hand to “sinners” who need it, but instead delivers a beating to those of us who disobey the rules laid down by the Steven Andersons, Ted Cruzes, and James Dobsons of the world.

    I downloaded and burned to DVD the Growing Up Quiverfull video from Youtube. The sense of superiority that these people have is amazing. They truly think that the world ought to be obligated to surrender to their every wish. “You need to change this music. It goes against my religious beliefs.” What they seek is a government that will back them in their effort.

    Donald Trump just notified them that he would appoint judges that would allow them to build their Michael Pearlesque government without interference from that pesky Constitution. And now they’re all joining behind the pied piper, er, trump-eter.

    Oh, they don’t fear government. They trust government completely. It’s God whom they don’t trust, because God isn’t getting around to smiting the people whom they hate fast enough.

  • Nightshade

    ‘Weak patriarchs that cannot abide having to answer to anyone else not God.’ I think you hit it right there. How dare any person tell a Bible-style patriarch that he’s wrong, about anything? After all he has a direct line to his god! It’s pure coincidence that ‘god’s will’ looks suspiciously like his will, of course.

  • Allison the Great

    They fear government because it is a tangible authority figure, not an imaginary, arbitrary one. Quiverful is a subculture that does some pretty horrible things to people. They do these things because they don’t believe they can be held accountable to their fellow man. They don’t want to be held accountable. Thats why they join this movement in the first place, they are weak men who blame others for their wrongdoings and for their shortcomings (the devil made me do it, Satan seduced me with his lies, it was the woman’s fault, etc).

  • Abigail Smith

    5 years ago, we had to go on state funded insurance. I was so ashamed to tell my Christian friends. I needed to be home to homeschool our special needs kids (I have a doctorate and qualified in this area) so I could not work outside the home and get insurance. I am a believer and kept waiting for the proverbial “other shoe to drop” from the government who was “plotting to interfere in our family” . Nothing of the kind ever happened. In fact, we have been able to get the therapy we desperately need paid for…I don’t see it as a free-ride. I am so grateful for the help. And one day when my kids are grown, I will be giving back into the system as well.

  • Nea

    It’s about someone else *you* can’t control being in control of *you* and the people you try to control.

    Also, because of that annoying insistence that all people have inalienable rights, including people and rights considered “icky.”

  • pinkie

    Yup. They’re against big government, and yet want a government that legislates what kind of sex people have and how they pee.

  • SAO

    The government is a powerful authority, accepted by most people, that often says things like,
    1) Your “biblical chastisement” is child abuse,
    2) Your kids are ignorant and uneducated,
    3) You need to pay taxes, etc, etc

    Most of these things aren’t said in an out-to-get-you way, just stated as cold, hard, objective facts. That’s galling to the fundies who think they are superior.

    For a fun look at cold, hard reality hitting entrenched white entitlement, read about the Bundys planning to sue the Oregon jail, where they are held as a result of the armed standoff in the Malheur bird sanctuary. Among other things, the jail is violating their 2nd amendment rights. I guess they think they should be able to carry a gun in jail.

  • Astrin Ymris

    I looked it up– while Ryan Bundy did list his second amendment rights among the “rights” that are supposedly being violated by incarceration while grandstanding, most of their complaints are based on the fact that they want to be treated as Special Snowflakes, and have unmonitored phone calls and internet access, plus get to use the Law Library for more than 6 hours a day. And they want extra towels or padding, so they won’t hurt their knees when they kneel to pray.

    http://www.opb.org/news/series/burns-oregon-standoff-bundy-militia-news-updates/ammon-bundy-civil-rights-lawsuit-multnomah-county/

    Also, Ryan’s pissed off that the FBI shot at them, even though they were resisting arrest. Apparently, only Bundys and Bundy supporters are allowed to pull guns on people./sarc

  • Nea

    Other people. That’s key — not tell them what to do, allow them to keep telling other people what to do.

  • SAO

    And it’s never occurred to the idiots that maybe the feds wouldn’t have shot at them if they’d been unarmed. Who wants to risk their lives enforcing the law against gun-totting loonies?

  • Astrin Ymris

    Ah, but the Bundys are white True Christians™, therefore the feds should have never even arrested them, let alone shot back! /sarc

  • pl1224

    Extremely well stated–kudos!!

  • RetroPam

    That link from Autodidact posted by lili loo does an even better job:

    http://fiddlrts.blogspot.com/2016/05/dominionism-and-evangelicalism-part-1.html

    Again the other day I saw Paul Ryan praying for Republican party unity. The first (and I do mean the first) words that flew out of his mouth after saying “there is a lot at stake” was “Supreme Court.”

    They want total, absolute, unrestrained power so badly that they can taste it like the heartburn from last night’s pepperoni pizza. This election decides whether or not they can theoretically get it.

  • RetroPam

    Unfortunately, it’s not “sarc” to the self-described “sovereign citizens,” invariably fundamentalist Christians or Mormons, which is almost certainly how these people saw themselves.

    The Quiverfull cult sometimes intersects with this weird political cult that claims that white fundamentalist Christian men are above federal or state law.

  • Astrin Ymris

    IMO, the Quiverfull cult was created to get 1st Amendment protection for the political cult of White Male Christian Privilege! ;-D

    That, and to create the perfect victim pool for sexual predators. 🙁

  • Maura Hart

    the government is pretty scary! given what a warlike country we are, how militarized the police are becoming, it’s not surprising. and if you are not scared of the rageful fearful christians, you have been sleeping for several years