Quoting Quiverfull: Part 2 – Polygamy and the ‘Biblical’ Man?

Quoting Quiverfull: Part 2 – Polygamy and the ‘Biblical’ Man? May 13, 2016

quotingquiverfullby Vaughn Ohlman from Let Them Marry and The Practical Theonomist – Is Polygamy Forbidden in Scripture?

Editor’s note: We’re still on our magical mystery tour of Mr. Ohlman’s crap. Von continues to lock horns with some other ‘good patriarch’ over the issue of polygamy, putting himself in the pro-polygamy camp. His opponent’s remarks are bolded and italicized, Von’s are in plain text.

 >>>God’s view of marriage was established at the very beginning when He instituted the relationship (all Scripture is from the Holman Christian Standard Bible):

>>So the LORD God caused a deep sleep to come over the man, and he slept. God took one of his ribs and closed the flesh at that place. Then the LORD God made the rib He had taken from the man into a woman and brought her to the man. And the man said, “This one, at last, is bone of my bone, and flesh of my flesh; this one will be called woman, for she was taken from man.” This is why a man leaves his father and mother and bonds with his wife, and they become one flesh. Genesis 2:21-24

>>>Notice that God gave Adam only one wife, with the intent that two become one, not three or four, etc.

=== No one questions this. However this is far from ‘forbidding’ polygamy. It says a man will be one flesh with his wife, not that he can only do that with one wife. Indeed, in the NT it is said that a man who sleeps with a prostitute becomes ‘one flesh’ with her. Perhaps the ultimate in ‘one flesh’ poetry was written by Solomon, a man with hundreds of wives.

>>>The Bible’s first mention of polygamy is in reference to Cain’s son Lamech in Gen. 4:19. Cain was the sinful man who was marked, and his sons learned his wickedness. From that point on it became cultural for some of fallen man to become polygamous. 

=== There is no indication that it was ‘from that point on’, ie that Lamech was the first polygamous man. No special commentary is made on his having two wives, except for the simple fact.

>>>But notice that when God saved Noah and his wife, and their sons and their wives, they were all monogamous; if God felt the need for plural wives to propagate the earth, He would have given them more before sending them aboard the ark.

=== If God ‘felt the need’ indeed… which is not the question. The question is ‘does God forbid polygamy?’.

>>As sinful man began to multiply many men of means became polygamous (the average man didn’t, because it took wealth to support more than one wife). However, when Moses led Israel out of Egypt 

=== Moses, who seemed to have been polygamous. Israel, named after a polygamous man.

>>>and God’s laws were brought forth, one thing God made a point of was that, when Israel wanted an earthly king he was to be of higher character than the average man. Of him God said, He must not acquire many wives for himself so that his heart won’t go astray. Deut. 17:17.

=== Yes. Ish. He was told not to ‘mulitiply’ wives. Wives, Gold, and horses. This is a far cry from forbidding polygamy. David, of whom it was said that 1Ki 11:34  Howbeit I will not take the whole kingdom out of his hand: but I will make him prince all the days of his life for David my servant’s sake, whom I chose, because he kept my commandments and my statutes: Took more than one wife.

Snipped a whole lot or repetitive schoolyard back and forth till Von arrives at this conclusion. Why are so many of the guys in QF that seem to have the most sexual hangups approving of polygamy?

In conclusion Scripture neither shows polygamy as condemend or commanded, merely as occuring. Some very Godly men have been polygamous. Indeed far, far more Godly men are shown as polygamous than are shown as unmarried. Many, many Biblical commands are frustrated by an unmarried state. And yet God still ‘allows’ men to be unmarried, at least under certain conditions.

If Polygamy is a sin, it is the strangest sin in the entire Scripture… a sin that Godly man after Godly man, including God Himself (in metaphor) is shown as being involved in without a whisper of condemnation. God, who forbade incest, bestiality, adultery, fornication, sleeping with a woman during her period, taking a female slave to your bed before she had a month to bewail her family (now that was culturally inappropriate! Typically such slaves would be *taken* on the very battlefield!) and a whole host of what (to us) would seem very minor peccadillos; the God who commanded men to cut the foreskins from their sons on the eighth day… that God could easily have forbade polygamy… and condemned it in his own people.

It is often compared to divorce but… they are not comparable. For one thing, God did condemn divorce, in both the Old and New Testaments. And, for another, what Godly man was involved in divorce? I know of one Godly man who thought about it (Joseph) but was stopped, by God Himself!!

QUOTING QUIVERFULL is a regular feature of NLQ – we present the actual words of noted Quiverfull leaders, cultural enforcers and those that seek to keep women submitted to men and ask our readers: What do you think? Agree? Disagree? This is the place to state your opinion. Please, let’s keep it respectful – but at the same time, we encourage readers to examine the ideas of Quiverfull and Spiritual Abuse honestly and thoughtfully.

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