by Mel cross posted from her blog When Cows and Kids Collide
All quotes from the book are in blue text.
There are just a handful of quotes left from the Boys in Chapter Nine. What I can’t get over is how similar each of the guys’ complaints about women is.
Overarching Themes:
What’s good for the gander is unacceptable for the goose…..
From “Jack, inventor”
- Jack thinks this anecdote makes him seem superior to a woman. Actually, this anecdote makes him seem trite, self-important and socially impotent in one fell swoop. Ironically, the two words I use to describe this quote are long and tedious.
- The Botkin Sisters have harped on – and will continue to harp on – the importance of edifying and enlightening men in conversations. When that’s the stated goal of all conversations, why shouldn’t a girl lead off by explaining that she’s read an entire dictionary? Perhaps the girl was attempting to tell Jack that he needed to broaden his vocabulary or that Jack uses words in an inappropriate way.
- Notice that Jack never thought of changing the topic. I know that silently judging people takes a lot of mental effort, but most people would have simply introduced a new topic like hunting small game.
- The last sentence is a strange shade of Michael Pearl. The ideally intelligent woman according to James is smart, but neither thinks of herself as smart nor defines herself as smart. Good luck finding that, James.
- Corollary: How many intelligent women would want to be around James?
From “Chas, networking guru”
- Sarcastic men are unattractive as well, Chas. Sarcasm is a backhanded indirect form of anger.
- I cannot find Chas’ verse in Proverbs about sarcasm and women so the Botkin Sisters should have done a better job editing their quotations for accuracy.
This is speaking hypothetically since I’ve never actually been around a girl….
From “Jack, inventor”,
- Signs that you have never flirted with another person include believing that there are “levels” of flirtation.
- Not everyone wants to have a deep conversation every moment of the day. Not every woman is deeply interested in every man. Expecting every woman to be willing and able to jump into a deep, meaningful conversation on your terms is extremely self-centered and not Christian.
- The level of self-importance in these quotes is breathtaking. Jack – along with many of his fellow boys – cannot conceptualize that a topic that is important to a girl may seem superficial to him. Honestly, based on the limited exposure I’ve had to the Botkin Family through their books and their atrocious podcasts, I think their interest in history, art and religion is extremely superficial in spite of the sheer amount of time and energy that they claim to spend on it.
From “Robert, entrepreneur”
- If men are the God-ordained spiritual leaders of humanity AND the CP/QF folk are the reborn spiritual prophets of the Reformation, men’s topics of conversation should be lofty, educational and edifying regardless of who is present in the room.
- Notice, yet again, the passive nature of women. A woman listens. A woman parrots Biblical truth. Women shun bad ideas and works. Women in BotkinLand never speak, lead or reprove. How dull.
- Even Rob-Bob manages to find a new way to shame women for failing to be a cheerleader since NOT ENCOURAGING => DISCOURAGING. Sorry, dude, in real-life there is the neutral option.
Mel is a science teacher who works with at-risk teens and lives on a dairy farm with her husband. She blogs at When Cows and Kids Collide She is also an very valuable source of scientific information for us here at NLQ. Mel is also blessed with the ability to look at the issues of Quiverfull with a rational mind and break them down to their most basic of elements.
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