Quoting Quiverfull: Lori Alexander and ‘Fat Shaming’ Children?

Quoting Quiverfull: Lori Alexander and ‘Fat Shaming’ Children? June 23, 2016

quotingquiverfullby Lori Alexander from her blog Always Learning – Training Your Children Benefits Them For Life

Editor’s note: Interesting and very telling bit of doubling down on the fat shaming that the Pearls have posted at their website. Recently Lori has been promoting the Pearl’s child abuse training manual as fervently as someone who has a financial stake it in.  You have to wonder why. But this attitude of blaming people over their body size is disgraceful, hateful and not ‘Christian’ at all.

Are there things I wish I had been better about training them in? Yes, but we covered the most important bases in raising them; the character qualities. The Pearls don’t have fat children since they taught them to think before they eat and not eat too much. {The Bible speaks about a “fat” king so even though this word may be politically incorrect, it is biblically correct.}  “When I was a kid I was trained to eat to live, not live to eat. I was taught that food makes your body healthy or unhealthy, lean or fat, that overeating was gluttony and gross. My dad was very pointed, descriptive, and honest about biblical and life principles, and I am so thankful for that” {Shoshanna Easling}.

You can train your children to be whatever you want them to be: fat or a healthy weight, love health food or love junk food, be neat or messy, be lazy or a hard-worker, be obedient or disobedient, be kind or mean, fight and argue or be a peacemaker, be joyful or grumpy. This is the power the Lord has given parents in raising their children. The Lord said that one of the purposes of marriage was to raise godly offspring. Take this seriously, women, and raise your children in the nurture and the admonition of the Lord.

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quotingquiverfullRelated post – No Fat Kids Allowed

 

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  • Nea

    How does Lori handwave those dead kids and the appalling circumstances of the grown Pearl children? Seriously, I’m asking. Or is living miserably in dire poverty okay as long as the people doing it are thin and allowed to take out their frustrations on the more vulnerable?

  • Saraquill

    Way to ignore that children aren’t extensions of their parents, but beings with autonomy.

  • Anonyme

    “I taught them to suffer in
    silence”

    Wut.

  • KarenH

    Why is it that when these women really OUGHT to take their Patriarchs’ advice and sit down and shut up, they never do. And the Patriarchs never scold them for it….

  • jennabobenna

    Never mind that stifling any aspect of your child’s personality or controlling their behavior in an unhealthy manner like these women are describing usually has the result that they do a complete 180 the second they’re free of your grip.

    Want your kids to have a healthy relationship with food? Model one for them. Don’t shame them into eating “right”. That’s Child Rearing 101, guys.

  • SAO

    Given that no parent wants their kids to be lazy, fat, mean, disobedient, or grumpy, if parents could “train” their kids to be anything the parent wants, the only adults in the world would be hard-working, peace-making, joyful, slender, etc.

    I will grant her that targeted abuse can produce kids who do what is required to avoid further abuse or to win praise. The real kid can be quite different from the outward show, as Josh Duggar demonstrated.

  • Petticoat Philosopher

    Get over yourself, Lori. “Fat” is the preferred term among people who embrace size acceptance. You’re not some kind of daring iconoclast.

    And no, you can’t make your children whatever you want them to be. Anybody who hasn’t accepted this basic truth just shouldn’t have kids.

  • Antoinette Herrera

    Because it’s considered good and godly for CP women to berate and belittle those they consider beneath them. And since these women aren’t coming together to fight the CPM, the menfolk can sleep soundly.

  • hotapplepie

    Seriously, who just makes up false information like this? Where does the Bible say that the purpose of marriage is to “raise godly offspring”? And you can most certainly NOT train kids to be whatever you want them to be. Are they raising robots now?

  • THERetroGamerNY

    Kids are not your own little lump of clay to forcibly mould into your own puppet. I mean, my parents tried this with me and daily spankings/beatings – it didn’t work.

  • Allison the Great

    You can’t train kids to be skinny when there are underlying health issues. Some people are born with thyroid issues (like not having one at all, or having hypythyroidism, I was born with none at all) and when your levels are out of whack you gain weight very easily. It’s ridiculous how easily you can gain weight when you have other issues going on.

    I get the impression from Lori that probably wouldn’t even have her kids checked for that, she’d just discipline them when they started gaining weight. I’ve read a few posts of hers where she doesn’t seem to trust doctors.

  • Allison the Great

    Lori is a robot, so yeah.

  • persephone

    My mom and dad tried that. It didn’t help.

    My mother was very focused on her appearance. She is also almost three inches shorter than I am, has tiny bird bones, while I inherited the massive warrior cow bones, so I was never going to be in her image. I also look like my father’s mother.

    Once I hit puberty, my previously accepting mother turned into a nitpicking horror over my weight. I have pictures of me and I was slim. But I was also athletic, so I was packing some extra muscle. It would be impossible for me to be built like my mother, because the laws of physics ultimately win. It totally screwed up my mental image of myself.

    Now, due to physical injuries and illnesses, I’m quite fat. I’m not happy with it, but I understand why I’m this way, and it should improve once treatment decisions are made. And however great or small the improvements, I’ll still be happy about it.

    Both my kids went through slightly chubby phases, but they both made decisions on their own to change habits that were affecting their weight and, especially, how they felt physically. I didn’t push them. I didn’t nitpick. I didn’t say anything, except one time when my older son was complaining about his gut, and I pointed to the empty soda cans in the garbage and told him how many calories there are in a can. That’s it.

  • persephone

    The Pearls also starved their children several times and fed them horrifying things because they couldn’t afford to feed their little army of god warriors. The results are pretty obvious when you read what they write, because there is some definite brain damage in there.

    The brain lives on fat. If a child doesn’t get enough fat in the diet the first two years, the result issues will last a lifetime.

  • zardeenah

    I <3 fat babies!

  • Nea

    Well, yeah. Because Mikey says that if kids cry or protest or scream during a beating, they get beat more and harder. So it is actually possible to teach your kids to suffer in silence. First, you make them suffer.

  • Nea

    To this day I wonder how often Lori’s adored Debi Pearl beat her dyslexic daughter for not paying attention/being lazy until she could be bothered to grasp that dyslexia is a thing.

  • Nea

    I’m about to skate perilously close to body shaming, but to be honest, my first thought whenever I see that cover photo of Debi Pearl happily swinging a basket, I think “she does not have enough fat in her diet.” Not in the “eat a sandwich, you’re too skinny way” but in the way that photo shows a person with several physical markers of being deficient in what is a nutrient.

  • Emily

    but but but….her children are all so perfect and Godly!

  • Emily

    but but but…..they’re speaking God’s Truth with love!!!