Quoting Quiverfull: Tithing Food Stamps?

Quoting Quiverfull: Tithing Food Stamps? August 21, 2016

quotingquiverfullFrom the blogs at Spiritual Abuse.org – Tithing Food Stamp Money

Editor’s note: One of the most outrageous stories I’ve seen to come out of spiritual abuse! If you have very little and what little you have comes from the hands of the government you should be pretty much exempt from tithing. Tithing should be done or not done at the discretion of the the church member. What things were you pressured to  in your old churches dear readers?

Many churches demand that people tithe if they wish to be a member. Some demand it whether or not you officially join a church. Many claim one is robbing God if they do not pay the church or the pastor 10% of their income. (Some pastors claim the tithe all belongs to them and separate offerings go to the church.) The church tithe today is nothing like the biblical tithe and isn’t given to the same people, but I will stop at that since it is not the subject of this writing.

Those who are eligible for food stamps are on limited incomes. No one should be requesting these people to tithe on their food stamps. Is a pastor taking food out of your mouth, and the mouths of your family members? It is ILLEGAL. Did you get that pastors and church members? Depending on the amount of money involved, it is either a misdemeanor or a FELONY to use the food stamp money belonging to someone else. It was not issued to you, Pastor. You were not approved to receive the funds or the food which those funds purchase. Asking or demanding people to tithe on food stamps is encouraging people to help you commit a crime. You are jeopardizing their benefits. Demanding such, under penalty of the loss of salvation or a curse from God is despicable.

This has happened in Oneness Pentecostal and other type churches. A man named David has alleged that the late L.E. Westberg, a United Pentecostal Church minister and pastor, required it. (“Church members on government assistance was required to pay tithes on food stamps Darlene would prepare a list of food she liked and the members would have to pick it up.”)

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  • Aloha

    In my experience, poor people can be much more generous than rich people … because they know what it’s like to be hungry, homeless, and cold. So I’ve often seen poor people sharing their food freebies with other needy people.

    But to require someone to give up their minimal food to a wealthier family, like as a salary package … now that’s not OK.

  • This is outrageous, but I must admit that in reading it, I’m surprised that I’ve never heard this before.

  • This is the first time I’ve heard of this, but knowing the character of some fundy ministers, I (sadly) can’t say I’m shocked. I’ve heard any number of them “suggest” tithing on unemployment insurance or social security checks, so I suppose this was the next logical step.

  • Nightshade

    My ex insisted on tithing food stamps when we were getting them.

  • TLC

    Oh. Em. Gee. Using your food stamos to buy food for the pastor’s family so you can pay a tithe? That is sickening.

    There are many sick, twisted and biblically inerrant reasons for pushing the tithing system. This is a new low.

  • A. Noyd

    I imagine a lot of people would go along with it because it recasts food stamps as earned income versus welfare. Given how there’s all this stigma around benefits that portrays the recipient as a failure and a social parasite, it’s probably quite reassuring to some people to have it treated like a wage. And that way they don’t have to give up stigmatizing others for getting benefits.

  • Rt1583

    So it’s wrong because it’s illegal and not because it’s morally reprehensible?

  • Baby_Raptor

    I think the stress on illegal was there because someone who demands a tithe of food stamps isn’t going to think that demanding a tithe of food stamps is morally Fucked up.

    But if you tell them it’s illegal then suddenly you’re endangering them, not the poor people they step on, so maybe they’ll think a bit.

  • Astrin Ymris

    I guess when pastors preach doctrines which lead to family poverty*, they “have” to turn to such despicable tactics to live in the style they’re accustomed to. After they have their own swelling families to support on a single income.

    Of course, they could consider whether their doctrines of anti-scientific homeschooling, no college, militant fecundity, and SAHMs are outright bunk, but that would be admitting they could be wrong! *shudder*

    *Such as voting for Tea Party candidates.

  • Ms JT

    Evil. Simply evil. I think most people only use government assistance in desperate situations. If you are in a desperate situation, the church should be giving you resources, not taking them.

    I prefer my church’s saying…time talents, treasure. Give what you can how you can. If you have no money, can you give time or a talent that you have? maybe become an usher or help with Sunday school. If you don’t have time or money to give, they request prayers. No threats or expectations other than remind people that it costs money to run a church (someone has to pay for air conditioning and heat lol)