Quoting Quiverfull: Doug Wilson Thinks Triggers Are a Lie?

Quoting Quiverfull: Doug Wilson Thinks Triggers Are a Lie? October 23, 2016

quotingquiverfullby Doug Wilson from Blog and Mablog – Triggered Schmiggered

Editor’s note: Keep in mind that this man is the same guy that had no problem marrying a sex offender pedophile or allowing him access to children in the Reformed IFB church Wilson pastors. He thinks that anyone having any problem with things he personally disapproves of is not a valid option. In a time when so many women have been triggered by the words of presidential candidate Donald Trump and a host of other things Wilson thinks that being triggered is not a real thing.

We hear a lot about “triggers,” and how they are used to shut down political and cultural disagreement, particularly on college campuses. Someone might be going to say something on the other side of campus with which a snowflake might disagree, and this sets off a fit of the vapors, along with massive protests against whichever visiting culprit it might be.

What we need is for some enterprising grad student in sociology or psychology (someone who didn’t want to graduate anyway for some reason) to walk through the protesting crowd with a survey, asking them for a list of the last three movies they had watched. When he has a solid representative list, he should rank them in order of popularity, and then comb through those movies for possible triggers.

The point of the experiment, of course, would be to demonstrate the discrepancy between triggers that don’t work when it is entertainment and which do when someone else’s right to free expression is at stake.

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  • Nea

    That’s not how it works, Dougie. Did snookims get disinvited from a campus? Does diddums get upset at being patronized? Is Dougie-wogie realizing how offensive snd upsetting it is to be patronized now?

  • MillyPierce

    Listening to these women talking about the things Donald Trump did to them, and yes he did sexually assault these women, triggers flashbacks of when I was raped. STFU Doug Wilson!

  • Mel

    Jesus, Doug. That’s the worst methodology of a survey I’ve ever heard of.

    1) Your premise of “The top three movies watched by the protesters will totes have the triggers they are protesting” IS NOT A HYPOTHESIS. You haven’t pretended to make a claim about the effect the trigger in the movie had on the people who watched it.

    2) You break the first law of data analysis which is “don’t lose a shit ton of data when creating categories”. By looking solely at the “top three movies” you miss the finer detail of the 50 or more other movies they will list.

    3) Good luck on getting a representative sample on a protest or mob. To do that, you’d have to know the information about the crowd members in advance like gender, age, political affiliation, race etc. Then, you’d have to collect those pieces of information from each person you are interviewing and only interview the people who will fit into the sampling guidelines you have created before.

    4) There’s also a little problem called power. Power is a term that helps you determine how many of the people in the mob you need to sample to be able to make a guess about the entire mob. If this is your standard protest at a state-college, you’ve got 30 to 50 people there. You’d need to interview between 30-40 of those people to get enough power.

    5) If you are doing research on humans, you need to be cleared by the human research protection committee on campus. (That’s probably the easiest part of the whole thing – except that his plan is so shitty it would probably be rejected due to poor planning).

    6) Your entire plan can’t answer the statement you made at the end. You’ve collected no data about how people respond to triggers made in person instead of during a movie.

    7) If you want the top three movies, traditionally you have people list the last 5 or 10 they saw. If you want to know which movies affected them, ask them to list the 5 movies that affected them most AND list how it affected them.

    8) None of this is a graduate level study. This is barely worth the time of a upper-class undergraduate.

  • Allison the Great

    Please, Doug can’t badmouth people who get triggered. He loses his shit when women speak.

  • Mirella222

    Actually, movies are a great thing to bring up when discussing triggers. Movies get rated with regards to how old someone has to be to see them, and typically the reasons for the rating are listed. When movies are shown on TV there are often warnings given if it has violence, nudity, or coarse language before it airs. No one argues that we should stop giving movies ratings, and if anything, people tend to argue for more, not less, censorship on TV. Why is it so difficult to apply this concept to other situations? Why can we recognise that movies that contain certain content need a warning so that people know what they are getting into, but it is such a leap to apply trigger warnings to text based media?

  • Anonyme

    I think the idiot scale just went through the roof.
    We don’t pick or create triggers, or use them as an excuse to be a whiny sad sack. When Donald Trump mocked the reporter who has a disability, it brought up memories I’d worked so long to put behind me. My own father mocked and criticized me from early adolescence through my early 20’s for behavioral struggles and problems that were out of my control (I was given various vague diagnoses until I was 20, because recognition and awareness of Asperger’s syndrome took a while to be more extensive and accepted). When I saw and heard Trump’s sneering, baiting mockery, the flashbacks started. I felt all of the anger, all of the sadness, and all of the frustration that I had felt for so many years. NOBODY wants to feel that. I’m not a “snowflake”, dammit, I just don’t want to relive those days again. This is why I cut off communication with my father…but apparently that makes me a whiny baby.

  • Anonyme

    I’m so pissed that I copied this comment to Doug’s page. Wonder when the crazies will come out with their pitchforks and tell me I’m making ti all up.

  • SAO

    The real issue with his survey is assuming that popular movies are watched by everyone, including people who have triggers. I don’t have triggers, but I have violence and gore and don’t watch movies that are violent and gory, despite the fact that some of them are very popular.

  • Astrin Ymris

    All the upvotes!

  • guest

    Exactly! I’ve switched off plenty of movies because I found I couldn’t ignore how a character’s behavior or words were affecting me.

  • Nea

    Not only that, different people avoid different movies for different reasons. Dougie assumes that it would be the same set of movies for everyone.

  • AuntKaylea

    Not only this, but the analysis also ignores proximity as a factor. While I have to be careful about what I see in movies, film simply does not trigger me in the same way because it has separation and is two dimensional, but an in person observation of the three-dimensional live event that is less severe can send me into a tailspin.

    i.e. I see a movie with a trigger and I have nightmares for one night. I encounter something live and I have several weeks of anxiety, panic attacks, and a whole host of symptoms. I accepted a job once where someone up the chain of command said something to me in person on my first day which triggered some PTSD shortly after I had been raped. Going to work was like prolonged PTSD afterward, something which I could not get past, as the fear of the person who said it simply could not be countered. Any time I set foot in the office, I completely shut down. I had to quit.

    I believe that abstraction (such as film) may be an important category of distinction for some people with regard to triggers, as for me at least, my brain processes fiction/abstraction different from reality.

  • paganheart

    Interesting. That might explain why a friend of mine who is gay had to walk out of a production of the play “The Normal Heart” because it triggered him with flashbacks of watching friends suffer and die in the early days of the AIDS epidemic. But watching the film version that HBO did a few years ago did not have the same effect. There may be something about the “abstraction” of seeing something on a screen that tells the brain “this is not really real, no need to panic.” But all that means is that the whole issue is not as simple as Dougie would like to make it.

  • persephone

    Entertainment triggers me regularly. I was channel surfing and came
    across the recent movie about the Krays starring Tom Hardy, just at the
    scene where Reggie rapes his wife. I got sick and shaky.

    I quit watching GoT for a couple of seasons.

    I just dropped Poldark.

    GBBO was mostly safe, but I still found myself upset at Paul’s dickwad behavior.

  • persephone

    That may well be part of it. It could also be that the passage of time has made it less painful for him.