Quoting Quiverfull: Godless Sluts Wear Yoga Pants?

Quoting Quiverfull: Godless Sluts Wear Yoga Pants? October 28, 2016

quotingquiverfullby Lori Alexander from The Transformed Wife – Women Wanting to Do What is Right in Their Own Eyes

Editor’s note: Flipping out over yoga pants? Since when did wearing comfortable clothing translate into rebellion against men and God? There are many men that walk around in utili-kilts or short shorts in this area of the world in the summer time, yet I never see hordes of women being tempted into lust over this. You know it’s a day ending in ‘Y’ when Lori says nasty denigrating blaming things about other women.

‘Yoga pants belong in the yoga studio,’’ Alan Sorrentino wrote. ‘‘What’s next? Wearing a ‘Speedo’’ to the supermarket? Imagine if men did that. Yuck!’’ If I had heard a man say this and I have, I would be cheering and agreeing with him! The editor of the article, however, wrote, “The letter, which said adult women wearing yoga pants in public was comparable to men wearing Speedos to the grocery store, went viral. The backlash was immediate, passionate, and international.” Of course it was immediate, passionate, and international. Anyone who confronts women with the way they live is means for revolt in their eyes. This is how many are with me because I teach godly principles and God’s design for them. They were “immediate, passionate, and international” and nasty and mean about my homemaking post that went viral.

I wrote an entire chapter in my book on modesty since women are not taught modesty anymore. I warned about yoga pants since I know they are not modest and cause men to stumble. It’s a little tough on guys to continually avert their eyes when almost every single women they see is wearing them no matter what they look like in them. And what did the women do in response to this comment? They held a “yoga pants parade” in front of his house and flaunted all different colors of yoga pants for all to see. “On no, you can’t tell women what to do with their bodies.”

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  • Nea

    That’s right. You can’t tell all women, everywhere, what to do with their bodies, or you’re going to discover that women outside your controlling cult will hand you your ass. Instead of whining about it, Lori, you should have seen the backlash against your own book coming.

    Also, guys — self control. It’s a thing. You’re not much of a man until you’ve learned plenty.

  • guest

    Around here, men walk into the grocery store in their cycling gear. I can’t say it looks all that attractive on most men, but it’s never crossed my mind to let that bother me.
    Teenage boys run around exposing half of their underpants, which doesn’t look very attractive either. Their jeans are getting tighter too. Perhaps it’s time we women complained!

  • Anonyme

    I lost it when Lori seemingly equated wearing yoga pants with having an abortion.*

    *which is also a personal decision but it certainly carries far more weight than yoga pants!

  • pagankitty

    Anyone else read the “no matter how they look in them” line as fat-shaming? But then I’m confused. Is it better or worse to wear yoga pants if you look unattractive in them? I mean you wouldn’t be tempting those poor poor men. But somehow it’s still bad?

  • Friend

    “I warned about yoga pants” is the best sentence EVER.

  • Friend

    Ye gods, the comments: “It’s important to remember however that we are to love these young girls and women wearing these pants and treat them with respect, with the same respect Jesus treated prostitutes.”

    How about, “with the same respect Jesus treated all women” or “with the same respect Jesus treated the falsely accused” or “with the same respect Jesus treated the scorned”?

    Fun fact: There is no Biblical basis for the commonly held view that Mary Magdalene was a prostitute. Despite Jesus’ mercy and respect, Christians have managed to use this belief about her to tarnish her reputation. This affects perception of women’s role in the historic and current-day church.

  • Anonyme

    There’s a comment from a mother whining about how her poor sons have to keep averting their eyes and of course none of the girls they’ve met are good enough, those pants-wearing temptresses

    sigh.

  • Anonyme

    That comment actually started out sounding very kind (if condescending), until it took a nosedive into slut-shaming.

  • Friend

    “women on the Oregon trail weren’t wearing pants or comfy yoga gear.” What an awesome comment.

    Here’s an authentic list of what people wore on the Oregon Trail. Going out to buy it ALL to improve the productivity of our whole family: “wool sack coats, rubber coats, cotton dresses, wool pantaloons, buckskin pants, duck trousers, cotton shirts, flannel shirts, cotton socks, brogans, boots, felt hat, palm-leaf sun hat, green goggles, sunbonnet.”

  • guest

    Yes! because wearing ill-fitting, scratchy clothes is going to improve your productivity. Of course!

  • Friend

    Usually the opposite of a bad thing is a good thing, but not in the magical world of shaming women. Nobody wants to be a slut OR a prude. Nobody wants to cause men to stumble over their tumescence, and nobody wants to be ugly.

  • pagankitty

    Don’t be unattractive but don’t be attractive. Hooray for consistency!

  • pagankitty

    I wonder if she’d take the same principle and get rid of her car and electricity. People on the Oregon trail didn’t have cars. Women on the Oregon trail didn’t have electricity.

  • Friend

    …running water, privacy, hospitals, houses, cemeteries…

  • Saraquill

    Female butts have the power to cast mind control over others? I missed the memo.

  • Saraquill

    But plenty of dysentery, broken axles and failed river crossings.

    Yes, I’ve played the game a zillion times.

  • guest

    Were these women especially godly? Why the mention?

  • Nea

    I wouldn’t be surprised if it was. The same people who wail about modesty and covering up also wail if women wear sweatsuits or anything frumpy, because while causing a boner sends you to hell, not acting as though someone is looking at you and wants to see something as pretty as possible is equally a sin.

  • Nea

    Oh, I love that one. “Someone has totally failed the standards I impose upon them, so I get to pretend that they secretly hate themselves.”

    Judge not, lady.

  • Nea

    Women may not have worn yoga pants, but they did tuck their skirts up to leave their legs free in order to work. It’s actually mentioned in literature of the time.

  • Nea

    Just remember, men are smarter, less emotional, suited to be leaders, and totally helpless whenever they get a boner.

  • Friend

    They dressed modestly and suffered, and I guess that’s all that matters. /sarc

  • Anonyme

    Holy shit this comment
    “Ladies ask yourself this. Would you let your daughter wear it? Dressing
    modesty isn’t only Godly it’s a way to protect yourself”

    And of course Lori is so quick to approve this thinly veiled threat that women bring rape upon themselves. And the commenter is a man and apparently “brave” for saying this so he gets extra Lori Points.

  • pagankitty

    Was that the same comment as the man who went on about women not wearing yoga pants because they’ll make men imagine them wearing yoga pants in their homes in the dark and that’s just so not safe? Or are there multiple men arguing that wearing yoga pants makes men rape you?

  • pagankitty

    “I didn’t say I hate you. I just think you’re the same as a dirty whore, and I hate dirty whores. I love you. :)”

  • katiehippie

    My mother thinks being overweight is a moral failing. I’m currently 100 pounds over weight and one day I’m going to snap when she makes another comment like “you don’t need the calories”

  • katiehippie

    I tried this comment. Let’s see how fast it disappears.
    “I have a far higher opinion of most men. They aren’t babies that can’t control their actions and thoughts and impulses. If I were a man, I would be angry that someone thought I was so weak that I couldn’t control myself around a woman, no matter how she was dressed. With all the bad things that happen to people, it’s very petty to worry about what other women wear.
    Matthew 7:1”

  • Suzanne Harper Titkemeyer

    Evil evil boner demon infestation!

    Back, back, evil yoga pants!

  • pagankitty

    Of course! What else would you use your butt for?

  • Anonyme

    It’s from the “yoga pants in the dark” comment

  • AuntKaylea

    This comment made me want to give you a hug.

  • guest

    Did she publish it? I tried a comment on one of her posts, asking why on earth she allows woman-hating comments on a blog that’s supposed to encourage women, and she didn’t publish it. The misogynistic comment is still there.

  • guest

    One would guess…

  • Allison the Great

    Look at her newest post. The one where she talks about all the things that women couldn’t do before feminism. She actually wrote paragraphs about why women shouldn’t want to be lawyers and astronauts. Wow.

    We shouldn’t want to be lawyers because it makes us unfeminine. My sister’s a lawyer and she is far from unfeminine.

    And we can’t want to be astronauts, why, exactly? Curiosity in women is ungodly, apparently. Lori can go fuck herself.

  • SAO

    If some guy is worried about stumbling because he has a ranaway libido, he should move to a monastery.

  • guest

    I read that one and it made me laugh out loud.

  • guest

    Oh, horror! The immodesty!

  • Suzanne Harper Titkemeyer

    I thought mine was cushioned for sitting purposes, not male mind bending…

  • jennabobenna

    Fallacy of false equivalence. Yoga pants leave a LOT more to the imagination than speedos.

    Also. Screw you, Nancy! I dress pretty modestly. Not out of some overdeveloped sense of morality, but out of a need for comfort. I am currently wearing a tea length Snow White skirt, a dressy t-shirt, tights, ankle boots, and a cotton cardigan. My outfit would pass your litmus test with flying colors. It’s also comfortable. After work, my office is going rock climbing. My active leggings would fail to even approach your standards. But I’ve never seen someone rock climb in an ankle length skirt. Because that would be moronic. Just like basing your standards of dress on a three-thousand year old book.

  • Suzanne Harper Titkemeyer

    It’s awful! She does not think women should have their own bank accounts or breastfeed in public..

  • Allison the Great

    Just because she is too much of a baby to have a bank account. And she thinks that just because she doesn’t want a prestigious career and just because she isn’t smart enough to be curious about our world and our universe, that means that no woman should be allowed to aspire to be scientists. And that “all the soldiers, scientists and lawyer were men so why should we want to do those things?” WHO CARES IF THEY WERE ALL MEN?!? That is the most bullshit argument I’ve ever heard.

  • guest

    She does want a career. In writing.

  • guest

    You’re right. It is awful, but I had to laugh at her delivery of the awfulness.
    – Feminists gave me the right o open a bank account. I don’t need one. Daddy took care of me until I got married, and since then, hubby’s been taking care of me. Ah well, a point for feminists.
    – Feminists gave us the right to use birth control. Nooooo 500 million minus points!!!!!

    That rhetoric made me laugh.

  • Allison the Great

    I wouldn’t call her writing a career.

  • Friend

    Not the first time this year that men have been praised for bravely announcing a tendency to commit sexual assault.

  • Friend

    Omigosh, I once had a lawyer with waist-length hair who wore size 2 pink suits and stilettos. She was so feminine it was terrifying–and highly effective.

  • Anonyme

    This:
    “[birth control] has led to the slaughter of over 54 millions babies in the womb since women can now decide to control their fertility.

    A. Where does she get her numbers?

    B. Birth control prevents conception, it doesn’t “kill” a baby/fetus. Why is this so hard to grasp in Fundie circles? Or is it a way to scare women away from making their own reproductive choices? Also, what about The Pill for other reasons than birth control? I’d lie, kill and steal to be able to use BC for my heavy, painful periods, but any hormonal birth control will screw up my anti-epileptic (anti-seizure) medications. Great googly moogly, these people can’t see past what they deem as the “evil” use of BC.

    C. Oh look, Lori said it’s okay to run the Boston Marathon! How earth-shattering!

  • pagankitty

    You use your own body for your own comforts and needs and not to serve or enslave the males!! *gasp* The horror!

  • pinkie

    We should try posting these comments on her Amazon book page. She reads them and can’t delete them.

  • Nightshade

    Wearing yoga pants? Check.

    Godless? Check.

    Slut? Living with a man without the questionable benefit of marriage, so…check.

    Fine. I can live with that!

  • persephone

    They showed their ankles?!?!?!?!?!?!?!? Heavens forbid!

  • persephone

    I worked for a lawyer who would match that description. But under those suits was a body that could finish a Spartan run that left big, tough men crying by the side of the run.

  • persephone

    I’m seriously tempted to leave a comment that just says:

    “I’ll be praying for you, Lori.”

    I’d like to see how she responds. Of course, I won’t be praying to her god.

  • katiehippie

    It was gone quickly.

  • Nea

    Does the post about all the things that women “couldn’t do” before feminism include all of the things that women DID do before feminism? Like lead countries, wage wars, captain pirate ships, invent, paint, write, compose? Has she never heard of Marie Curie? Mary Shelly? Elizabeth I?

  • Nea

    A real-life Elle Woods?

  • Nea

    So basically, she thinks the 40s were perfect for everyone.

  • Nea

    They weren’t. They demonstrably, recordedly WEREN’T. She’s making an argument from ignorance that a child’s knowledge of just English history could defeat.

  • Nea

    Who’s going to take care of her if hubby dies first?

  • Saraquill

    🙁 All this time my butt deceived me, expelling products and nothing else.

  • Trellia

    One of my best friends is married to an amazing lawyer who’s a real sweetheart as well. She made sure I would have sugar-free ice cream at a wedding event. As for lawyers making women unfeminine, it’s too bad that she can’t tell that to Franziska Von Karma.

  • TLC

    I think we should hold a “Make Men Stumble” rally. We could all wear our yoga pants with those giant clown shoes. We’d stand outside a fundagelical church and trip all the men going out to the parking lot, then kick them in the ass when they fall for setting up this stupid patriarchal nonsense.

    Because that makes about as much sense as the crap Lori writes and the utter bullshit she believes in.

  • Allison the Great

    To be perfectly honest, I’d rather be unfeminine than the useless, incurious dolt that Lori is. The only thing she really cares about is admonishing other women for not being as helpless as she is.

  • Nea

    Yeah, I’m going to cry all day about that while cleaning up the home I own and straightening up the things I bought with my own paycheck.

    Lori hasn’t realized that self-righteous won’t keep her husband safe, nor keep a roof over her head.

  • Ash

    Surely not the 40s when women went to work in the factories and ran everything on the home front themselves because the men were off fighting WWII? Oh wait, you meant the 1840s.

  • Trellia

    Touche. I should have phrased that better to show that being a lawyer doesn’t necessarily make one unfeminine, not that one ‘must’ be feminine while still being a lawyer. I don’t like her definition of ‘feminine’, either. I enjoyed working at a plant nursery and carrying trees and loading semi trucks with them and got an amazing farmer’s tan, too. Oh, and long skirts would have been more than useless in that job, especially with all the shrubs with thorns I worked with. In fact, I sometimes wore…. yoga pants!

  • Evelyn

    I have never met a woman who saw a man in a speedo and as a result wanted to have sex with him. Maybe if she only saw him from the waist up, but I doubt speedo-wearing ever got any guy laid or even assaulted. Eeew.

  • Suzanne Harper Titkemeyer

    I’m up for that! LOL

  • Abigail Smith

    That’s so rude. I’m so sorry. I have a mean mother like that…except she’s overweight I’m not…but it never stopped her from her little digs…I am no contact with her now.
    Do you know about Toxic Mom Toolkit? There is a book and a FB group for those of us with toxic moms

  • Abigail Smith

    Laughing as I sit here in my yoga pants.

    Let’s face it…it’s about yoga too…the whole issue of how yoga is evil. I used to do yoga, then had my “Titus 2 Mentor” tell me it was evil and I’d be sinning…so I stopped….but I’ve been back to yoga since I left QF….I love it, it’s calming and great exercise, and I’m not worshipping “idols” while I do it…

  • Suzanne Harper Titkemeyer

    Was wearing yoga pants the day I quoted her and went through that entire thing was being shamed in my church for doing yoga.

  • guest

    I posted another reply today, under her blog post “when you love someone you want them to go to heaven”. She didn’t publish it, of course. She’s not interested in any conversation that doesn’t praise her ideas.

  • Abigail Smith

    They have to have their opinions about everyone else and everything else. If they put a fraction of their energy into working on themselves and their hatred, the world would be a better place.

    Honestly, I’ve found yoga’s tenets to mesh nicely with the gospel…being kind to others and yourself, respecting others boundaries, being non- violent and non-hateful, etc

  • Suzanne Harper Titkemeyer

    Yoga is wonderful. I used it post hysterectomy to help ease my digestive tract waking up post surgery and still do yoga a couple of times a week at the local health club. But now I do water yoga. Fundamentalists saying that we’re worshiping demons while doing yoga clearly have no clue what yoga is.

  • Abigail Smith

    I’m so glad it helped you recover!
    Water yoga sounds heavenly! I do yoga at home online (some free, like Fightmaster Yoga on Youtube) and some that you pay a membership (totally worth every penny because it’s cheaper and easier than trying to get to a class) on Do You Yoga.com. They have some free classes too to see if you like it.

  • Hannah

    Two queens spring to mind, Isabella of Castile and her daughter Catherine of Aragon. They both lead armies while their husbands were off fighting other wars. This was way before feminism happened!

  • pinkie

    And parade past Lori’s place on the way.

  • guest

    Another home-exerciser here. I’ve tried some yoga but didn’t enjoy it all that much. I prefer “fusion” workouts that combine more than one discipline. Classical Stretch-Essentrics and Ellen Barrett both build on yoga, pilates, ballet and even some Qui-Gong. Amazing.
    Ah well, I get carried away when I read of someone else who enjoys exercising at home!

  • Abigail Smith

    I love fusion too…Jessica Smith TV on youtube has some amazing ones, including some yoga

  • gimpi1

    “On no, you can’t tell women what to do with their bodies.”

    No. No, you can’t. If you don’t care for what someone is wearing, don’t look. If you don’t like an article of clothing, don’t wear it. Mind your own business.

  • gimpi1

    Divided skirts (read culottes) were a thing. So was hiking your skirts up and tucking them. So were some women wearing pants when they needed to ride. Sidesaddle was not common for women traveling west. It’s impractical and too easy to take a fall in an unforgiving environment.

    Frankly, if the pioneers on the Oregon Trail would have had access to poly-cotton cloth, stretchy fabrics, zippers and gore-tex, they would have made use of them. Their clothing, like ours, was a product of the technology of the time.

  • gimpi1

    She’s never heard of Marie Curie?

  • gimpi1

    Catherine the Great? Catherine De Medici? Amelia Earhart? Elizabeth Barrett Browning? Harriet Beecher Stowe? Cleopatra? Joan of Arc?

    Really, if Mrs. Alexander would just do a bit of basic research, she wouldn’t make such a fool of herself.

  • gimpi1

    I doubt they care. It’s not something they created, so it must be “bad” by definition.

    Apparently, no culture, anywhere in the world, throughout all of history, ever had a good idea. All good concepts comes from American, conservative Christianity.

  • Astrin Ymris

    Re: “… “On no, you can’t tell women what to do with their bodies.”…”

    That’s right, Lori. You’re not God, and nobody but you thinks you’re His prophet. Not that it matters, since we live in a secular nation, where you can not-wear whatever you feel inappropriate, and other women can wear or not-wear that garment as they decide.

    Also, you should know that this “Freedom of Speech” thing works both ways. You can say what you choose, and other people are free to speak up if they disagree with you. Don’t dish it out if you can’t take it.

  • Astrin Ymris

    It boggles the mind as to what Lori is referring to here. Some natural disaster which she claims is God’s Punishment on the nation, because some women are wearing yoga pants in public?

  • Astrin Ymris

    In the CPM/MRA universe, the only reason women were created is to serve men in some way or another, even if it’s only by being passing eye candy. A woman who “let” herself get fat has thrown away her only reason for existing.

  • Friend

    I think it would look great chiseled in granite.

  • Nea

    Much like the Amish already have. Not gore-tex or zippers, but plenty of poly-cotton in Amish clothing.

  • zardeenah

    Victorians, particularly American Victorians were suckers for technology. If it was new and shiny, they wanted it! So if these folks really wanted to be Victorian, they’d stock up on every kick-started home appliance and convenient clothing item available.

    Victorian housewife: “Screw homemade bread! I’m getting a breadmaker!”

    Faux Victorian evangelical: “homemade bread from hand ground wheat is the only way to show love for your family”

  • Anonyme

    St. Peter: “Sorry, I’m not letting you into Heaven. You wore yoga pants! You should’ve listened to Lori…”

  • Astrin Ymris

    I just noticed Lori’s title– ‘Women Wanting to Do What Is Right in Their Own Eyes’. “How dare those women make their own judgements about what’s right and wrong! Even though that’s exactly what I do, since there’s nothing about yoga pants, speedos, or birth control in the Bible, so I have to interpret scripture to determine what God wants…”

  • Astrin Ymris

    The Right, as a whole, is historically illiterate. They keep invoking a perfect past which never existed outside of 1950s television sitcoms.

  • Karen the rock whisperer

    I can’t do it now, due to knees that don’t work. I tried a disabled person’s yoga class, but it was too intense for me. However, back when the knees worked, I got a whole lot of good out of it. The thing that stands out in my mind was yoga fixing a pulled leg muscle that took months to heal… until I started the yoga class. Then it healed in a couple of weeks.

    I’ve taken several yoga classes, and never encountered one that took spirituality much beyond “namaste”. Christians who object for religious reasons don’t have a clue.

  • guest

    I like Jessica Smith, too. She’s sweet, encouraging, and delivers one heck of a workout! And Peanut!!!!!
    She might even be dressed modestly enough to please the Loris of this world. Just barely….

  • Abigail Smith

    Peanut is the best dog!
    IDK if they would tolerate Jessica…she does wear yoga pants, LOL

  • Friend

    I’m sure she considers her online activities some kind of calling from God, so it’s not really the kind of work she bans other women from doing.

  • Friend

    Agreed, her writing is not a career. It’s a typed form of pointing at other girls in the high-school cafeteria.

  • Friend

    Our local high school has a reasonable dress code, and kids are allowed to show some skin. They certainly notice one another, but they also get used to working in an environment where they see the occasional perfect leg (male or female).

  • texassa

    I wear cropped running tights – commonly confused for the much-discussed “yoga pants” – often in the cooler months. I wear them for many reasons: to go running, to do a chore or errand before or after running, to do yard work, to do things around the house, to ride my bike when it’s cold, or to do a casual errand even when I have not been running. I have never worn them as a visual message about my morality, my sexuality, or to cause poor weak “Christian” men to “stumble.” Grown-ass men, handle yourselves. If you’re such strong, powerful, superior leaders, then quit looking to women to handle every single piece of your shit.

  • Patricia Lakin

    Right on for the yoga pants parade…. I would have also danced in them in Lori’s driveway

  • ShinyZubat

    I haven’t seen a speedo specifically, but being from a beach town, I have seen men on numerous occasions in the grocery store wearing their swimming trunks and nothing more. I don’t know what Lori expects to happen in that situation, since no one ever bats an eye. I do wonder how they stand to hang out in the freezer aisle though.