Quoting Quiverfull: Part 2 – Silly Women Use Prozac?

Quoting Quiverfull: Part 2 – Silly Women Use Prozac? November 1, 2016

quotingquiverfullby Michael Pearl from No Greater Joy – Drug Addicts

Editor’s note: Michael really ramps up the blaming and shaming of mothers who aren’t 100% happy and overjoyed every minute of every single freaking day. One of the laughable things about this screed, and there aren’t many, is that it was written in 1998 and by that time Prozac was no longer the most prescribed drug for depression, a flood of other SSRI had taken the lead. Plus substitute the word ‘Valium’ for ‘Prozac’ and this screed would fit well back in the 1960s. The Rolling Stones did a song about stressed out mothers and their drugs. This is neither a new problem or an uncommon one of mothers feeling stressed out, overwhelmed and depressed. Gee, I wonder why?

One woman says she is so hyper that the drug is needed to keep her calm so she doesn’t get physically sick. Another woman says she loses control and is so full of anger that her family suffers unless she takes the drug. Still another woman says she is so depressed she is afraid she will end her life without it. One sad fact is these mothers are training their children to be depressed, to feel that violent angry rage is not sin, but sickness, to depend on a drug instead of obeying God concerning temperance. These little girls are growing up learning and using their mother’s excuses. Soon they will need their mother’s drug.

So if Prozac is only a bandage what is the cure? The first step is repentance toward God, taking responsibility for your own actions, moods, and intemperance.

Then take responsibility for your own health. I am not a doctor. I don’t have any answers that you couldn’t find yourself with a little reading and a lot of asking questions. Here is what I have learned. Again, it is only a lay-person’s opinion, based on information available at the local library.

For the most part, Prozac seems to be a woman’s drug. It appears that mood swings begin to surface somewhere around 33 to 37 years old, at which time Prozac is recommended. Most of the women complain of being tired, and wonder if they have a new disease.

QUOTING QUIVERFULL is a regular feature of NLQ – we present the actual words of noted Quiverfull leaders, cultural enforcers and those that seek to keep women submitted to men and ask our readers: What do you think? Agree? Disagree? This is the place to state your opinion. Please, let’s keep it respectful – but at the same time, we encourage readers to examine the ideas of Quiverfull and Spiritual Abuse honestly and thoughtfully.

Part 1

From the Rolling Stone’s in 1966 – Apparently chemical-enhanced motherhood goes back to at least 1966. Makes me want to order this pill box in protest.

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  • Nea

    “I’m not a doctor, I’ve just read shit in the local library. But I’ve also got a penis, so stop listening to your doctor and your body and your own learning and do what I tell you. Doing what I tell you is taking control over your health. Listening to anyone else, including yourself, is folly and sin.”

    Also, I’m becoming more and more convinced that this is as much a slam at Debi or his own girls needing a little Mother’s Little Helper as it is his cheerful way of soothing his insecurity by insulting half the human race.

  • Saraquill

    Is anyone else curious about Michael’s bowels? He pulls so many things out of there it must be a pocket dimension.

  • Nea

    Hands up everybody who wants Mikey to take responsibility for his own actions and moods.

  • Evelyn

    Exhaustion at 33-37 is classic hypothyroidism. For which diagnosis one must actually visit a real doctor.

  • Nightshade

    ‘ I am not a doctor.’ Damn right you’re not, Mikey-boy. So stop giving pseudomedical advice and leave decisions like that between patient and doctor. You know, the ones who really should be making those decisions.

  • MillyPierce

    Mikey has convicted me to stop taking my meds for my bipolar disorder. The highs where I don’t sleep for days, go off at the slightest provocation and the depression that keeps me in bed for weeks and makes me feel like the world would be better off without me aren’t a chemical imbalance, it’s God telling me to repent my sins and pray. /sarc

  • Mel

    I prefer getting medical advice from a doctor who has completed a Bachelors Degree followed by 4 years of medical school followed by a residency in their area of expertise.

    I don’t take medical advice from a Bible College drop-out.

  • guest

    Hypothyroidism is a common cause, but not the only one. Whatever the cause, you do need to consult a doctor.

  • guest

    Waving both arms up in the air. Yes!

  • guest

    Which kind of makes you wonder if insulting half the human race is not “Michael Pearl’s Little Helper”

  • Anonyme

    1) Shame women for choosing what works for their own bodies/minds
    2) Blame the “faults” in children on the mother
    3) Marginalize mental illness by telling people that A True Believer ™ would never have any of those horrible, icky diseases*
    4) Demonize modern medicine
    5) Tell people with [insert condition] that they aren’t trying hard enough or they’d be all happy-happy joy-joy
    6) Insinuate that people with [insert condition] brought it upon themselves somehow and are all sinners

    Wow, Mikey outdid himself.

    *I know they aren’t diseases but Mikey sure thinks they are.

  • Anonyme

    YOU’RE NOT TRYING HARD ENOUGH!
    (I can’t even type that facetiously without cringing).

  • Evelyn

    Yes, and “good” QF women will never know either way if they aren’t allowed to visit a physician.

  • guest

    Good QF women go online and study “natural medicine” from self-proclaimed doctors- T hey may self-diagnose, try this, try that, until they start to feel “selfish” for focusing so much on their health. Then they’ll just “be thankful in everything”.
    Or if they manage to get whatever it is under control. they’ll proclaim themselves experts in natural medicine and will set up a a proper, modest, Titus-2-Woman blog where they will publish their abundant knowledge.

    I’m a big believer in eating whole foods to feel better, but medicine can’t always be avoided.

  • Nightshade

    Bigger on the inside?

  • Nea

    Upvoted because this is precisely how Debi has handled her health issues. Until one became so bad that she had to panhandle for money for surgery because Mr Provider Mikey had somehow been powerless to prevent her from “voluntarily” putting what should have been her health care cut back into the ministry.

  • Nea

    Different stressors, I think. Debi and her daughters are trying to do everything without ever being affected by the hard work and near slavery they experience. Mikey’s main issue, on the other hand, is a planet-sized case of insecurity that someone, something, somewhere out there might not think that he’s the most alpha male that ever swung a dick.

  • Nea

    For that matter, I don’t take medical advice from the random collection of books in the local library, either. It may be a starting place, but it’s sure not a replacement for the actual doctor.

  • Nea

    I hate to tell you, but one of his daughters is bipolar, and not only is she apparently not medicated, but Mikey has bragged that her ups allow her to “amass great wealth” and her downs are “resting for her next victory.”

    Oh, and she “responded fine” to being beaten like all the other kids, presumably including for not showing the right emotions.

  • Hannah

    Seconded!

  • Saraquill

    He is full of waste product. It goes a long way to explain the quantity.

  • MillyPierce

    That is just horrible! I am so sorry for her, unfortunately I don’t see her getting any real help.

  • Hannah

    That makes me so angry! My grandmother suffered bipolar disorder right up until she died (in a psychiatric hospital where she had been committed after several suicide attempts, though she died from kidney failure linked to diabetes.) It’s no fucking joke, the best thing for anyone with such a serious mental illness is medication and counseling.

    Mikey needs to be taken out and shot, that’s the only language he’ll understand. I feel so sorry for his daughter.

  • Hannah

    I was sixteen when I was first proscribed Prozac (fluoxitine, same thing, different name.) I wonder what old Mikey would have made of me then. Of course, if he’d have started on me my mother would have handed him his arse on a silver platter. The point I’m trying to make is it’s not just overwhelmed mothers who take it, it’s teenage girls and old men and middle aged men and anyone who needs it. Suffering from depression is not a moral failing either, that is a crock of shite.

  • SAO

    A woman who marries at 20 and starts having kids has 5-10 by 33, none of which are old enough to be reliable helpers. Of course she’s exhausted.

  • Mollywog

    And gee, guess what??!! Sometimes things are situational and you NEED something for anxiety or depression until the situation is fixed. And sometimes it is a chemical imbalance in your brain which no form of diet will help. I was diagnosed with clinical depression in my early 20s. I’ve been off and on antidepressants for that for years. Don’t always need them, but sometimes I do. Then when I was in my late 50s I had to take over responsibility for my father’s financial and medical care, which went on for 5 years or so. The Zoloft that I was given at that point for anxiety was a blessing. It did not turn me into a zombie or anything like that, it enabled me to continue functioning as a normal human being without freaking out when the phone rang or something else equally silly. And same dosages of each medication when I’ve needed to take them for several years. As far as I’m concerned, knowing yourself and knowing when to ask for help is a very godly thing.

  • Astrin Ymris

    I wonder how Michael is coping with the existence of Donald Trump, who suffers from the same condition, but is also rich, famous, and being taken seriously as a Presidential candidate by an alarming number of people?

  • Brennan

    Don’t you just want to lock them in a room together? Preferably with lots of sharp objects available . . . (no? just me?)

  • Astrin Ymris

    Don’t tempt me! ;-D

  • Nea

    Envy and jealousy, probably, at Trump’s power. If he votes, he would certainly vote for him and think all the women accusing him are liars.

  • SAO

    You’re giving him too much credit if you think he went to a library or opened a book before writing his ignorant medical recommendations.

  • AuntKaylea

    Especially unnamed library books.

  • AuntKaylea

    The sad truth is that people following this advice have obtained LPC licenses. I had a friend with bipolar disorder who went to a quack who followed this thinking. She went off of her medication, and committed suicide.

    This is not just bad advice; it is actively harmful.

  • MillyPierce

    I am so sorry! I would never even consider going off my meds, my life is so much better with meds and therapy!

  • B.A.

    Thirded!

  • bekabot

    In the kind of set-up Michael Pearl is recommending, men don’t need Prozac because they have wives. (The theory being that when the men are responsible for Actions, the wives accept the onus of the Actions, and that when the men have Moods, the wives soothe those.) The wives, having no wives themselves, need Prozac or some equivalent thereof, but Michael Pearl, being a religion-vendor, does his best to head them all off toward God instead. JMO.