Bonus Quoting Quiverfull: Modeling and Modesty?

Bonus Quoting Quiverfull: Modeling and Modesty? December 12, 2016

quotingquiverfullWhile reading through the usual suspects blogs and websites I stumbled across this video made by the two ladies who run the website we’ve quoted a few times now – Girl Defined. The video illustrates perfectly one of the biggest problems with raising your children in the isolationist mind set of Quiverfull – immaturity. We’ve seen this immaturity in physically grown women many times in a wide variety of places in Quiverfull: the Botkin sisters Anna Sophia and Elizabeth, the message boards connected to Debi Pearl’s book ‘Preparing To Be A Help Meet’, Girl Defined, Hello Modesty, A Lovely Calling, and too many other blogs than we could list here. The Quiverfull bubble that most of these young ladies live their entire lives in does nothing to allow them to grown emotionally into women.

Both of these ladies are claiming to have had opportunities to model but ultimately decided to go into ministry instead. What do you think?

“The two of us were both in our early twenties and desperately curious. The seed that had taken root in our hearts as young girls was finally coming to bloom. We wanted to explore the modeling world. Truthfully, our hopes weren’t that high. We assumed, out- side of a miracle, that our moral convictions and living as models probably wouldn’t jive. We didn’t want to miss an opportunity based on assumptions though. We wanted to know for sure. We had to see firsthand.

We sat in our living room with our parents and discussed the details. They explained the potential pitfalls and tried to convince us to let go of the idea and move on. But we weren’t budging. With their grudging approval, we contacted our modeling recruiters.”

Anyone feel like doing a review of their book? Shoot me an email at and I’ll get you a review copy. I’m starting to think the book is filled with some toxic nonsense that needs to be looked at deeper instead of fluffy-headed giggling over being modest while wearing skin tight skinny jeans and red lipstick.

QUOTING QUIVERFULL is a regular feature of NLQ – we present the actual words of noted Quiverfull leaders, cultural enforcers and those that seek to keep women submitted to men and ask our readers: What do you think? Agree? Disagree? This is the place to state your opinion. Please, let’s keep it respectful – but at the same time, we encourage readers to examine the ideas of Quiverfull and Spiritual Abuse honestly and thoughtfully.

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  • Julia Childress

    I’m sorry, but when I think of fundies modeling, this Wendy’s Super Bowl commercial from the 1980’s comes to mind.

  • Nea

    Well, because 99% of the kids want to “go into ministry” because they’re not educated enough for anything else, and because being female meant that they were as sheltered as hothouse orchids, I think these girls seized on modeling as something that sounded racy enough to catch attention and make them stand out in a crowd. But note they don’t have to actually DO any modeling, just talk about how God saved them from contact with anyone outside the cult box. Bonus, they can make up crap about seculars and atheists and lost women and claim that it’s experience from their nonexistent modeling career while hinting that, as model material, they’re prettier than you.

    Notice how none of these kids are “I got a BA in Chemistry but decided to be a minister” or “I gave up my electrician’s license to be a minister.” It’s never something that they had to actually prove they worked for and achieved that they made a tough choice to give up.

  • Aloha

    I don’t feel ready to do a book review, but I bet this would be a great one!

  • SAO

    Do respectable modeling agencies actually recruit by handing out business cards? Or is that just the shady people who want skin shots? Unless they are both 6 feet tall or more (unlikely) it wasn’t a legitimate fashion agency.

    If they didn’t look it up on line, they were dangerously naive or quite vain (our Christian purity added to our looks makes us irresistibly gorgeous). Or maybe, they are just making the entire thing up, if so, that’s more vanity.

    Lots of opportunity for mind-blowing levels of hypocrisy in their discussion of this.

  • Jennny

    I can’t decide whether i want to see them modelling Victoria’s Secret or yoga pants.

  • Saraquill

    Now I’m wondering what they’d think if they saw me at a powwow. I’m covered from collarbone to ankle in loose fabric, but in non European clothing. For that matter, when it’s hot out and I’m wearing a shalwar-kameez to retain less heat. Again, I’m covered up and not showing curves, but in garments associated with brown people.

  • Suzanne Harper Titkemeyer

    If you look at their sites they wear some rather snug skinny jeans and jeggings so yoga pants isn’t far off at all. Lori would not approve!

  • Suzanne Harper Titkemeyer

    Makes me think about this scene from The Brady Bunch Movie –

  • Taylor S

    I don’t want to sound like I’m shaming anyone for their age, but it is extraordinarily unlikely that an agency would hire high fashion models in their early to mid 20s. Most modeling careers start in early to mid teens!

    Like maybe they could have pursued parts modeling or maybe catalog, but they are insinuating that they plunged headfirst into the decadent haute couture runway lifestyle before returning back to the CPM….Hm…

  • Suzanne Harper Titkemeyer

    True, unless it’s a local agency hiring girls for things like television commercials or working at trade shows. You can get hired pretty easily for small local events at that age, but not true high fashion modeling. Notice how there’s zero real legitimate ‘lingo’ and neither talk about having a ‘book’ or what types of assignments they did. Very telling.

  • Astrin Ymris

    I’m sorry, but you can’t “give up” something you never had. Going to an interview with a modelling agency* doesn’t count as having had a modelling career. Nor does having landed a few modelling jobs, unless you actually earn your living by modelling. That’s what “have a career” means.

    There are far, far more women who try to “break into” modelling than ever become models. Lots of pretty women are told “you should model”, often by guys wanting to date them and/or have sex with them. There are also lots of scams designed to separate naive teens and young women from their parents’ money in the quise of getting them started in modelling.

    It’s possible that the agency which Kristen spent a year with was legit, but I have to wonder how much Kristen actually earned compared to how much she paid out for various and sundry fees and expenses.

    I also have to wonder how sorry the “family friendly” modelling agency was to wave bye-bye to a client with such a narrow range of “morally acceptable” jobs she was willing to take– or if the decision not to renew the contract was really Kristen’s.

  • Astrin Ymris

    I actually think that Salwar Kameez look great! And very comfortable, too. ;-D

  • Jennny

    Oh, just assumed they wore the long skirts and all-covering tops. Surprised they are allowed such immodest garments as jeggings,…I’ve never been on their website fearing for my sanity if I did!!!!!!

  • persephone

    Exactly what I was thinking. Some local agency that, maybe, maybe, provides models for local stores for small, in-store shows, or some local advertising shoots.

    Neither of those girls is tall enough or thin enough to be a full-time professional.

    That agency was going to suck them in, get them to spend thousands on photos and modeling classes, then blow them off.

  • persephone

    You have to be super thin for catalog, so these girls don’t fit.

  • Suzanne Harper Titkemeyer

    ..and runway. They might be alright for local trunk shows, but aren’t thin enough for runway either.

  • Trellia

    I love, love, love the beauty of a kameez or kurta. Most of my favorite clothes are from India. (Most of the others are from the Renaissance Faire.)

  • Evelyn

    My sister “spent time” with a modelling group, but it was really just a class type thing held by a fancy department store, ending with a dress up show. She loved to talk about how she modeled, but she didn’t.

  • jennabobenna

    My ex’s sister is a model. She has worked her ass off (literally) to get to where she is, which isn’t terribly high up the ladder but assuredly higher than either of these women ever made it. She’s done some catalog work for some bigger names recently and I wouldn’t be surprised if she makes a decent living at it for a while and moves up the ladder further. That said, she’s been actively pursuing her career for over three years. At the point when either sister quit their “modeling career,” my ex’s sister was still working at Hardee’s full-time while doing modeling gigs and building her portfolio on nights and weekends and whenever she could get work. I highly doubt that either of these women had a real shot at a modeling career, much less that either had a real modeling career. Especially considering the amount of privilege it takes to think modeling is something you can just do for funsies and get famous without putting in the work.