No Clergy Guilt for Naturalist/Secular Chaplain

No Clergy Guilt for Naturalist/Secular Chaplain July 17, 2017

Editor’s Note: With input from 12 current or former non-believing clergy, we’ve discussed guilt from the perspective of various types of fundamentalists, liberal Christians, a seminary professor and Orthodox and secular Rabbis. We’ve seen how clergy suffer, handle and assuage guilt and how some of them have left guilt behind. In the final essay of this series, Clergy Project member Chris Highland seems to have managed a way to avoid religious guilt altogether – get out early and become a secular chaplain! May he be the wave of the future. Meanwhile – don’t be surprised if this subject comes up again here. There is plenty of guilt to go around.


By Chris Highland

  1. What are some of the things you regret, if any, about staying a member of the clergy after you no longer believed?

If I regret anything, it’s probably not engaging in more conversations with my (interfaith) colleagues during the process of exiting the faith bubble.  I know some clergy were a bit stumped by my “lack of center” (Christian identity), but that wasn’t too much different than all the years as a chaplain.  Few seemed to really “get it” enough to fully support the work.

  1. What are some of the things you learned because of your new perspective as a non-believing clergy?

My situation was rather unique, since I left my ordination but continued to work as a chaplain.  The church (one denomination) could no longer have a say in the work, though they could have pulled some funding (but didn’t, for the most part).  I suppose I learned that doing the work of good was not really much different from doing the work of god.  I also discovered that those I worked closely with (both colleagues and clients) didn’t seem to really care what I believed, as long as I continued to practice the compassionate presence that was always the center of the work anyway.

  1. What are some of the things you learned once you left the clergy? 

Again, I learned that religious titles like “clergy” or “minister” were never the point and were often pointless.  To be called “Chaplain Chris” was honorable enough, even though “chaplain” still had some vestiges of the religious tradition.  The way we enacted the chaplaincy (among people in jail, housing challenged, mentally ill, addicted, etc.) was built on a foundation of cooperative coalition that usually included clergy and non-clergy on the liberal edges anyway.  I also learned–or rather confirmed–that being “in good standing” within the church structure might open a few doors here and there, but I was never much of an insider to begin with.

  1. What advantages, to yourself or to society, have you seen in getting out of the clergy.

I think it’s a great advantage to have the solid background (educational and experiential) and then move on.  I can “speak the language” of faith and scripture while clearly explaining the reasonable and personal process of walking out the door and out into the wonderful wilds.  My weekly columns in a local paper, engaging a spectrum of local clergy, continually draws on the depth of insider/outsider knowledge.

  1. What was it like the first time you preached a sermon after you’d realized you were no longer a believer?

Early on I spoke in Unitarian churches (of course) but probably the most meaningful experience was giving two sermons in a Presbyterian church where many people knew me in my former faith life.  I spoke on “God is Green” which was pretty much “God equals Nature” – then called out the liberal congregants as nature-worshiping heretics.  I did this gently, with humor, and it was well received.  Several of my former seminary professors there hugged me afterwards.

  1. Were there times while speaking to someone it was hard not to just blurt out what you wanted to say? If so, please describe.

This was not really a problem for me.  I usually enjoy the challenge of explaining where I was and where I am now in terms of beliefs.  It was a little more difficult with some family who still don’t understand and I feel they don’t really want to understand – too scary for them.

  1. Who was the first person you told you no longer believed and how did conversation go?

If this means “no longer believed in the supernatural,” I would say that goes back almost to seminary.  Well, not quite, but Reality was always more critical than Religion!  The first person was probably a good friend, also an ordained minister at the time, who shared many of my questions and dismissal of nonsense.  He is still in the church and continues to share many of my “beliefs in nonbelief.”

  1. Since you’ve been “out,” how have you been treated by people in your former congregation or community?

I have very little contact with most of them, partly since I moved across the country. However, those few who were my friends and confidants then, are still connected now.  We don’t always agree on some things related to god-issues, but we have found a happy medium to simply be friends.


Chris Highland 2008Bio: Chris Highland was a Protestant Minister and Interfaith Chaplain for many years. He renounced his ordination in 2001. He is the author of My Address is a River, Nature is Enough and ten other books. Chris is currently a member of The Clergy Project, the American Humanist Association and Americans United for Separation of Church and State, while he blogs at Secular Chaplain. He teaches a class on early American freethinkers at the Reuter Center, UNCA. Chris and his (reverend) wife Carol, live in the mountains of North Carolina. To learn more see

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  • igotbanned999

    I’d like to see one of these from an Imam

    • Linda_LaScola

      me too. We didn’t have any imams in the study, but I hear there are some in The Clergy Project.

  • mason

    Chris, I enjoyed the “faith bubble” visual. Those bubbles seem to be popping in the pulpits and congregation with increasing rapidity these days. Also the understanding the “insider/outsider” world. A person certainly has to have lived it to understand it. Most of my friends never knew me as and insider, and have difficulty believing I was ever an insider.

    “I spoke on “God is Green” which was pretty much “God equals Nature” – then called out the liberal congregants as nature-worshiping heretics.” Can you elucidate about this some as to how you “called them out”, which if I understand would be a way of complementing them for their belief evolution into more of a naturalist rather than a theist?

    Have you ever been out in the great wild of nature with that other buddy of mine Terry Plank, a man who also loves the footsteps of John Muir?

    • Thanks for the comment, Mason.
      I’ve spent many years in mostly well-educated, liberal/progressive circles (sometimes seen as bubbles) where the concept and practice of “interfaith” is actually the norm. Strange, but true.
      This particular congregation knew me pretty well, and I knew them as former profs, colleagues and supporters of my chaplaincy work.
      When I spoke of the Nature/God, I saw heads nodding in agreement.
      So “calling them out” was really finding the words to allow people to recognize that in reality they were closer to pagans in some ways than any classic Christian creeds.
      I’ve shared lunch with Terry. Great guy!

      • ElizabetB.

        “Several of my former seminary professors there hugged me afterwards”

        Linda and others sometimes mention a sympathy between atheists and progressives. I think that’s a great connection to explore!!

        Thank you for another great essay…. and for the clue to check out the Citizen-Times essays via your website. What a great title: “Highland Views”!!! Thank you for all of it!!!

        • Linda_LaScola

          I call it “similar views, differently expressed” instead of sympathy. But yes — worthy of further exploration.

          • ElizabetB.

            Thanks, Linda! I was thinking of an intellectual sympathy… thanks very much for the exact language!!

  • See Noevo

    Twelve of your last fifteen articles are about atheist guilt.
    Are you stuck?

    • mason

      I think it’s a series on a very important them among apostate clergy

    • Linda_LaScola

      not simply atheist guilt, but the guilt of clergy who become atheist. As Mason says, it was part of a series, inspired by a commenter who asked a blogger if they ever felt any guilt about preaching after they knew they were atheist. This is the last one – for a while.

      • ElizabetB.

        The “like” is not for “the last one”! but for the important distinction as to what the subject is. Thanks!!

      • Maura Hart

        the astounding thing would be if any one of these men even admitted to feeling slightly rueful for the lies they promulgated and were paid to do so!!!!

  • Maura Hart

    again! no guilt! yay! and you get the added benefit of studying a book of lies, myths fables, garbled oral historys, genocide, racism, misogyny and then get to spread all those lies around! no guilt!! are you guys lucky or what?