3 Questions We Must Stop Asking About Immigrants

3 Questions We Must Stop Asking About Immigrants November 12, 2019

“I don’t want to come to the U.S. Everyone hates us here.” The words stunned me. I was face-to-face with a woman who had just crossed the border from Mexico into Texas, and the only emotion she had was fear; fear that she wasn’t welcome in our country and fear that people were going to be cruel to her. I couldn’t really disagree. Our country is drowning in anti-immigrant sentiment with people across the nation, including many evangelical Christians, becoming more and more comfortable with making cruel accusations toward our immigrant neighbors. Fear-mongering, condescension, and smear campaigns are the reigning spirits of the day and, what’s worse, the people at our border know it.

This is not the witness that God desires for us to have as Christians. Sure, not every Christian has to hold to the same political views. There are many facets to our current immigration debate, and there really is no one easy solution. But I do think that it’s about time we started checking our attitudes at the door. We can certainly be gentler and kinder with our words, so that these vulnerable, hurting people first see the love of Christ in us, not hate. No matter our stance on border security, Christians should be able to express their opinions without insults and overall nastiness. Colossians 4:6 tells us, “Let your speech always be gracious, seasoned with salt.” If this is true, then here are three things that we should all stop asking about our immigrant neighbors.

1. Are They Legal?

In the past week, my husband and I have had friends on three separate occasions share with us their pain, fear, and ostracization over the same experience: a coworker asked for proof of legal documentation; a random woman in a restaurant brazenly walked up and wanted to be “reassured” that they were legal; and, perhaps most terrifying, a police officer pulled one of our friends over, while he was going for a morning walk, to ask the same thing.

So many people are suspicious of whether brown-skinned people in our country, Latin Americans in particular, are legal, when the majority of them actually are. According to a recent Pew study, the current total U.S. foreign-born population is 45.6 million. Of this population, 77% are lawful immigrants (35.2 million), 45% are naturalized citizens (20.7 million), 23% are unauthorized immigrants (10.5 million), and only 5% are temporary lawful residents (2.2. million). Furthermore, at least half of these unauthorized immigrants arrived legally with temporary, non-immigrant visas. The Department of Homeland Security (DHS) estimates that a “substantial” percentage of America’s illegal population is made up of visa overstays—their estimates range from 27 to 57 percent. Would it surprise you that of this percentage there are more people from Asia in our country with overstayed visas than people from Latin America? When many people talk about illegal immigrants, they are implying people from south of our border. The truth of the matter is that we are largely misinformed on who is and who is not “legal,” and our assumptions and false information are making the situation worse.

Equally important, though, is the fact that questions of legality are undergirded with both pride and fear. My friends were not being questioned by random strangers in a spirit of neighborly love. There was no desire to connect, befriend, or help. Rather, the question, “Are you legal?” is rooted in an “us” versus “them” mentality. It’s based on a desire to fact check people, believing that their legality will determine whether they are with us or against us. This is a complicated, and quite frankly unethical, cultural lens, which is wrapped up in moral politics and mindsets of scarcity and abundance.

There is an American myth built into the founding of our nation, an idea that the United States is God’s gift to white evangelicals. Somehow, our pure and holy lives were rewarded with this sacred space, and, like the Israelites in the Book of Joshua, we must safeguard, protect and, even, root out the invaders. This is why “illegal” immigrants are seen as such a threat to this country: we think they will somehow steal the cherished and limited milk and honey that God has bestowed upon his chosen few. Emboldened by notions of privilege and power, we try to keep people out, believing we have the right to challenge, expose, and even shame people to achieve this goal. It goes without saying that we should stop seeing immigrants—legal or illegal—as a threat, as if only legal citizens of our same ethnic, racial, and cultural backgrounds are permitted to feast upon the bounty of this land.

It is not your right to fact check every person’s legal status. It is not your right to walk up to a brown-skinned person and ask for proof of their citizenship. What would happen if, instead of trying to identify people who are unauthorized, we acted like the Body of Christ and welcomed everyone the way Jesus did for us, regardless of our nationality, ethnicity, or legality?

2. What If They’re Criminals?

Our church recently started an immigrant family sponsorship program with a local immigrant shelter here in Austin. We want to build relationships with the men and women in our city, to hear their stories and learn from them personally how they want to be helped. In the first week of the program, I was connected to a woman from Mexico and her four children, ranging in age from 8 months to 17 years old. By the end of our first conversation, she told me how she actually had six children. Tragically, a cartel had stolen one of her sons right from their front porch and demanded ransom money for his return. Living in abject poverty, she and her husband had no way to pay them, and the cartel had murdered their son. And then, her husband had taken one of her other children and left her. Now, she and the rest of her kids were on the run, fleeing for their own lives.

It’s a horrible, pain-wrenching story that made me weep and left my stomach sick for days. The worst part is that her situation is not unique. So many of the people in our church, and the people that we meet and serve on the streets of our city, are fleeing violence and persecution. There’s a woman in our church who crossed the U.S. border to escape human trafficking. Another couple was being physically assaulted for their faith, and they came here to practice their religion in peace and safety. None of these people have ever committed a crime.

There is a huge discrepancy between the stories of immigrants I know personally and the reports from news channels, which paint every immigrant crossing our border as a rapist, thief, or murderer. This reality is just not true. First, there is no way to prove this theory. There is no national database that compares crimes committed by immigration status. That means there’s no national database that breaks down crimes committed by native-born citizens or immigrants, or those in the country illegally, making it difficult to confirm or dispute. What available studies do show, however, is that overall crime rates are lower among immigrant groups than they are among native-born Americans.

Walter Ewing, an editor and writer for the American Immigration Council, a group that advocates for immigrants, puts it this way: “You can find any demographic group that you like and it’s going to include murderers. You can look at redheads and blondes and it’s going to include murders. But that’s not the point, the point is what the crime rates are,” he said. “And if the likelihood is low, particularly compared to natives, then it’s disingenuous to claim they’re going to be a threat.”

The vast majority of immigrants crossing our border have never committed a crime. So, instead of wholesale labeling all immigrants as dangerous low-lifes, why don’t we spend more time getting to know them, hearing their stories, learning their plight and treating them like our neighbor?

3. What Would Our Service Industry Be Without Immigrants?

I can’t tell you how many times I’ve heard well-meaning Christians try to support immigration by arguing, “What would we do for cooks or maids or construction workers without immigrants?” When I was younger, I couldn’t explain why that comment made me uncomfortable, but it always did. It wasn’t until I read Ta-Nehisi Coates’ We Were Eight Years in Power and his argument that slavery hasn’t been eliminated, it’s merely evolved, that a lightbulb turned on.

Granted, as manufacturing has declined, service jobs have been a crucial source of work for those without a college degree. Immigrants fill many of these positions. According to Mark Muro, a senior fellow at the Brookings Institution, an estimated 20 percent of wealth work is done by people who are not citizens, compared with less than 10 percent of all U.S. labor. The problem, however, is that this statistic doesn’t tell the whole story.

Many of the immigrants coming to our country have trades and degrees. I know men and women who were doctors, lawyers, and physical therapists in their home country. There’s a couple in our church from Guatemala, who were a pastor and pastor’s wife, but until they get all their paperwork finalized, the only job they can obtain here is in the cleaning industry. That’s not what they want to be doing long term in the U.S, but it helps earn some much-needed money for the moment.

Moreover, immigrants make up approximately 17 percent of the U.S. labor force, about one in six workers. More than half of immigrant workers in the U.S. (approximately 56%) work in four of our major industry groupings: educational services, health care, and social assistance; professional, scientific, management, administrative, and waste management services; arts, entertainment, recreation, accommodation, and food services; and manufacturing. The facts show us that immigrants are professionally diverse, and they play a vital role in driving our economy. They work hard, they have different skills, they contribute to the flourishing of new ideas, and they pay taxes.

Our problem is that we don’t see these complex, intellectual beings as worth more than menial servitude. We will allow them to come as long as they benefit us and if we can control them. What would happen, instead, if we made the effort to find out what these men and women are skilled in, what they are passionate about, and what trades they have? What if we stopped treating them all like our maids and started helping them with their paperwork and finding jobs that they wanted to have? This too is how we can show immigrants the dignity and worth they deserve as image bearers.

Whether we are discussing the topic of immigration with friends, on social media, at work, or in church, let us challenge ourselves to begin from a position of humility, love, and gentleness. Let’s see ourselves more as students than teachers, so that we can cultivate a desire to get to know real immigrants and hear real stories. Let’s refrain from name calling, insults, and slander. For our words to be seasoned with salt and full of grace, we must refrain from exaggeration, embrace complexity, see nuance, and, above all, prioritize solidarity. This is the image of the gospel that I want our immigrant neighbors to see when they come to this country.

 

Image credit: Unsplash.com

 

About Dr. Michelle Reyes
Dr. Michelle Reyes is a church planter, pastor’s wife, author, speaker and activist. Her works focus on storytelling and narrative justice as well as culture, faith and identity. She is also the founder and editor of The Art of Taleh, a Christian collective where diverse voices can come together to thoughtfully dialogue about the details of God’s word. Michelle has a forthcoming book with Zondervan, and her articles have appeared with Christianity Today, (in)courage and Think Christian, among others. She lives in Austin, TX with her husband and two kids. You can read more about the author here.

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  • Jody Ohlsen Collins

    Michelle, I appreciate your sentiments here. I too have been in the South-ish part of Texas on many occasions (I have family there) and the feelings and attitudes towards immigrants may be as you describe.
    However, I have to take issue with your statement, “Our country is drowning in anti-immigrant sentiment with people across the nation, including many evangelical Christians…”
    If we gather our information about what is happening in the country or the church from what we see on the evening news, it would indeed appear we “are drowning in anti-immigrant sentiment.” However, the reality for thousands of Christians, maybe primarily on the West Coast in general and in the Pacific Northwest where I live, is we are not anti-immigrant, particularly in our church and particularly in our denomination–the Foursquare Church. I live in a part of the country where there are hundreds of thousands of immigrants, many of whom I have taught in school, some of whom are my friends and attend our church.
    I had a conversation with a Somali man the other day that was kind and civil and interesting and not all that unusual.
    I think we need to be careful about making sweeping statements about evangelical Christians, just as we need to be careful about any other group in general. Many of us are involved in our communities, serving and accepting and interacting with the populations around us and have been for years.
    Yes, we can do better (can’t we all?) but it’s important to not write us all off as well.

    Thanks for listening.

  • Anjasha Freed

    Anyone who opposes illegal immigration is unkind, un-Christian and racist. That’s the narrative.

    In fact, here are the true facts about mass/illegal immigration:

    1. It is harmful to the American poor and people of color by depressing wages and work opportunities. Illegal immigration harms these people with a wage loss of up to $1,500.00 a year per worker.

    2. Immigration, illegal and legal, disproportionately benefits the wealthy by providing them with a flood of cheap labor to undercut the citizen work force.

    3. Immigration, illegal and legal, creates competition for societal benefits such as welfare, low-cost housing and education. Again, this does not hurt middle-class virtue-signallers, it hurts the actual working class and poor. As of April 2019, 32,000 illegal immigrants occupied HUD housing that US citizens were waiting for.

    In short, allowing illegal immigration is an act of hostility and greed which solely benefits commercial interests. Anyone who supports illegal immigration does so at the expense of their fellow citizens of the working and poverty classes.

    Cesar Chavez, person of color and hero of migrant farmworkers, explained:
    “It is apparent that when the farmworkers strike and their strike is
    successful, the employers go to Mexico and have unlimited, unrestricted

    use of illegal alien strikebreakers to break the strike. And, for over
    30 years, the Immigration and Naturalization Service has looked the
    other way and assisted in the strikebreaking”

  • Ron Swaren

    Do you like Indian nationals haranguing you on the phone, with their pseudo English names. I just lost Close to $600 due to some Indian scammers on a needed medication. Do you like pregnant Chinese, Russian, Latin American women scrambling in here under a false story so they can have a US citizen born to them, and secure advantages later on for themselves and their relatives?

    The traditional opponents of any sort of immigration were Democrats and labor unions. Some of the current anti immigration groups are still led by Democrats. Of the old school. Because as soon as the next waves of labor saving technical advance come to us there will be fewer jobs among the US working class.

    Furthermore, evangelical missions in particular are becoming much more sophisticated and cost effective. I know of a very conservative couple (Conservative Baptist Association) who retired to their 4400 student liberal arts university in Kenya. And the same group has a US physician who trains around 20 doctors and nurses each year in Indonesia and may just live there the rest of his life. These stories are repeated in differing degrees of success around the world. A mission I am familiar with supports “national workers” for $25 per month. The local people are assuming leadership of these efforts—-and now combining with the latest technology, as early adaptors.

    Every other country, except for some place like Somalia, controls its borders. And most of them are NOT taking a lot of refugees. FYI. Peru and Colombia are big exceptions. The US also has $70 billion in private foreign aid, $40 billion in remittances, and some figure close to that in federal government aid every year.

  • Do you actually think those “Indian scammers” were illegal immigrants?

  • Ron Swaren

    They had a Baltimore phone number. How did they get that?

  • DDRLSGC

    You can thank the American CEOs for loosening our immigrations and labor laws since 1965.

  • DDRLSGC

    Funny how politicians and business leaders complain about immigrants; yet, at the same time, they undermine the American workers at every turn in order to prevent them from having a decent standard of living.

  • janet pesenti

    I’ll dispute every one of these talking points, each one uncited, and each one *amazingly* intent on pitting the poor against the poor.

    The lone quote by Caesar Chavez is over 20 years old, when the only significant driver of illegal immigration was economic, in stark contrast to the humanitarian disaster that exists south of the border today. Im not sure what point is being made by including Chavez’ quote. For context, here is the remainder of his speech:

    I do not remember one single instance in 30 years where the
    Immigration service has removed strikebreakers…. The employers use
    professional smugglers to recruit and transport human contraband across
    the Mexican border for the specific act of strikebreaking….

    We have observed all these years the Immigration Service has a policy as
    it has been related to us, that they will not take sides in any
    agricultural labor dispute…. They have not taken sides means
    permitting the growers to have unrestricted use of illegal aliens as
    strikebreakers, and if that isn’t taking sides, I don’t know what taking
    sides means.

    The growers have armed their foremen. They have
    looked to professional agencies to provide them unlimited numbers of
    armed guards recruited from the streets, young men who are not trained,
    many of them members of the Ku Klux Klan and the Nazi Party…who are
    given a gun and a club and a badge and a canister of tear gas and the
    authority and permission to go and beat our people up, frighten them,
    maim them, and try to break the strike by using this unchecked raw power
    against our people….

    Source: Hearings Before the Committee on Labor and Human Resources, U.S. Senate, 96th Congress, 1st Session, 1997.

    Copyright 2019 Digital History

  • Anjasha Freed

    I don’t put links in my posts because I am tired of them sitting in pending for weeks. The Chavez quote should not be hard to source.

    The principle that flooding the labor market with cheap or free labor was not invented by Chavez. Everyone has known it for hundreds of years. Marx made the same point.

    For instance, Rome conquered lands and brought slaves and destitute labor into the empire. This altered the Roman economy. Roman citizens, once farmers, merchants and small manufacturers, became more and more impoverished as they fought the wars that brought in the free and cheap labor that ultimately displaced their middle class status. The conquest of Greece brought in highly educated slaves who could function as white collar professionals.

    And that was 2,000 years ago.

    The people who have promoted mass immigration today are in the political, business and corporate sector. They are incredibly manipulative and smart.

    They have created a narrative to justify mass immigration to the average person: “These are hardworking people fleeing desperate poverty/violence/unrest/persecution in their own nations. If you do not accept them, you are immoral, cruel, racist and unjust.”

    They have sold their narrative by obsfucation, outright lies and moralizing. Their target audience is people who like to feel morally superior to everyone else while not understanding how the economy works. Their sworn enemies are people who understand they are telling a pack of lies.

  • tsalagi152

    The solution to the problem is so easy. All of you who have ancestors who came here should self deport back to the lands of your ancestors. We Native Americans had terrible immigration laws and let yours stay when they should have been deported back to England, Ireland, Italy, France, Scotland, etc. You are free to leave and create your own white country, we will not stand in your way.

  • bentley

    You think you know someone is in Baltimore because of their area code and I’m the only one laughing!?

  • WaytoomanyUIDs

    Spoofing area codes is trivially easy. It’s functionality built into call centre software. With a couple extra steps you can spoof numbers to appear to be from other countries.

  • Ican Do

    As someone with a mixture of a number of Celtic peoples who’s lands across Europe were violently taken, our tribes enslaved as “barbarians”, taken to foreign countries and nearly wiped out by a number of different so-called “civil”izations, I can only say that what happened to you and your people happened to everyone in the world and is still happening today. What makes it even worse is that hanging on to the anger, which of course turns to hatred and self-inflicted failure (I’m quite Irish, many of whom were a;so taken in slavery by the Vikings and resold). Everywhere i it happened it was just a matter of who had the best weapons and tactics. Today is now, not hundreds and thousands of years ago. We have to live in that here and now and make the best of it for the children and their children. The matter of “race” is an invalid argument. There is only one race, the human race, which happens to come in many beautiful colors, culturally rich, equal and brothers. We all came from this same earth and before that we were, all of us, stardust.

  • Ican Do

    You apparently missed the whole dang point. I am so sick of any statement being turned into some kind of prejudice or “offending” someone. Add to that legitimate citizens being forced into 2nd class citizenship under illegal foreign nationals.

  • Ican Do

    How very superior of you.

  • bentley

    You’re right – sorry. This issue is no joke. In no particular order, this is what I should’ve said:

    – Indian nationals trying to scam you have nothing to do with immigration. The person in Baltimore who wants your money isn’t in Baltimore.
    – Immigration is not bad, people coming into the U.S. under false pretenses is bad. It’s also illegal.
    – Working toward sensible immigration policy is good, senselessly being anti-immigration is ignorant at best, mean, stupid and dangerous at worst. Not accusing you, just making a point.

    – Sound bites and broken statistics don’t care who you voted for or which god you pray to, and neither do humanitarian crises.
    – No other country’s immigration policy has any relationship to U.S. immigration policy.
    – No mainstream politician of any party has advocated for open borders, ever.

  • bentley

    1. The minimum wage isn’t affected by how many people from somewhere else come here. If an employer is paying someone under the table, the’re they’re breaking the law and subject to penalty.
    2. See #1.
    3. With you on illegal immigration. If you’re against all immigration you missed an important day in your middle school civics class.
    I’m against illegal immigration but you’re attributing a lot of terrible behavior and belief to millions of people you don’t know, all without context.
    Whatever you think you’re proving, quoting bits and pieces without context only proves you have confirmation bias.

  • bentley

    It’s too exhausting to go after every ridiculous thing in your post, so I’ll just say that ancient Rome and slavery aren’t the same as present-day U.S. and people from other countries wanting to live here. Good grief.

    No one has created that dopey narrative about mass immigration but you. Who promotes “mass immigration,” anyway? I’m not looking for answers like “the rich,” or “corporations.” What is the name of, say, a politician or businessman, or even a company who does that?

  • Anjasha Freed

    1. I never said ancient Rome and slavery are the same as present-day US. I said that bringing in cheap immigrant labor and slaves is destructive to regional labor and leads to downward mobility. That is a pattern seen through history and it holds true today.

    Do you understand that when employers are flooded with labor they can pay less and demand more?

    2. “Open borders” is synonymous with mass immigration. In 2018, Gallup found that 148 million foreign adults would like to move permanently to the USA. If we open our borders, that is how many want to come and would try to come.

    Do you understand the gravity of 148 million people? We are about 330 million today. That would push our population to nearly 500 million and permanently alter our demographics.

    I wish we could do it in just one US city. Your city, hopefully, from which you would be barred from moving. We could let in 2 million of those wanting to migrate and let you take on the tax and social burden. If you want a social experiment, then we should give you one, rather than let you tamper with the health and stability of our entire country.

  • Anjasha Freed

    1. Wage gains are affected. No employer has to pay more than the minimum if they have 100 people applying for every job. Or do you plan to legislate all of this so that the government decides what everyone earns? USSR-style!

    3. What middle school civics lesson says that we need to let more people into a nation of 330 million people? Why? Are we some sort of charity? Are we trying to populate a continent?

  • bentley

    I am resolutely atheist and I just upvoted you. I think that covers it!

    Possibly the most frightful challenge facing us in the Internet age is… the Internet age. Thank you for your thoughtful post.

  • bentley

    1. Yes. I plan on turning the U.S. into a failed communist nation-state that breathed it’s last in the 80s. Don’t tell anyone or I’ll be arrested as a spy for a failed communist nation-state of the 80s. Way to promote thoughtful discourse.

    3. Where did 2 go? Anyway, it seems you did miss that day in middle school civics class because you didn’t learn what you just said in middle school civics class.

  • bentley

    We agree that slavery is bad. We don’t agree that your analogy makes sense. Immigration policy and minimum wage aren’t related. It’s not 600 years ago.

    Open borders is something that not one single politician has advocated, ever. Let it go or quote someone.

    You pound out a foundation of broken statistics and cruel social absolutes and then build syllogisms on it, I give up. You win.

    ps – thanks for wishing me harm. Go, Internet!

    Sigh.

  • Anjasha Freed

    Minimum wage is mandated by government. Employers must pay it by law.

    In a labor market that is managed (not flooded), employers have a limited supply of workers. In order to get good workers and keep them happy, employers raise wages and conditions for those workers, instead of simply paying them the minimum wage.

    In a labor market that is flooded, employers have a wide supply of potential workers. They do not have to give workers raises to keep them. Workers are desperate for their jobs and employers can offer the minimum in wages and working conditions.

    This is a basic principle. It is impacted by immigration, because immigration increases the number of workers.

  • Anjasha Freed

    “ps – thanks for wishing me harm. Go, Internet!”

    I said you should bear the fruits of your own political choices. If mass immigration is so good, then why would it harm you to live with it?

  • Catherine OG

    Your point is to dismiss Native Americans and our experiences in the Americas, our homelands over the past 500+ years.You may have a mixture of such and such Anglo people, but you have no instances of experiencing intergenerational trauma in the Americas. Sorry. No one is illegal on stolen land. I do agree we are stardust. but racism in this nation is still very much alive and well. White supremacy and white entitlement are alive and well. When was the last time you got pulled over for the color of your skin or had people actively working against YOUR right to vote based on your race or ethnicity? I suspect never. That is the point. We are not talking about thousands of years ago. It is here and now and your ignorance of the issues is a perfect example of that. Peace.

  • bentley

    I guess “You win” isn’t enough for some people. Take your open borders that no one advocates and your 148 million made-up number immigrants from wherever you think they’re all going to come from and your mass immigration that isn’t a thing and wishing I was barred from moving out of the city I live in and go annoy someone else.

  • bentley

    The labor market isn’t flooded by anything. We’ve established that you didn’t pay attention in civics class and now you’ve demonstrated that you haven’t read a newspaper since 2015.

  • Anjasha Freed

    14 million immigrants came to into the USA between 2000-2010 alone.

    Today, 44 million Americans are foreign born.

    This is a flooding of our labor market.

    Read some economics, bentley. Insulting me does not change the facts or count as an argument.

  • Anjasha Freed

    148 million people want to come to the USA based on a Gallup survey.

    Gallup, Dec 10, 2018, “More than 750 Million Worldwide Would Migrate if They Could”.

    I don’t make anything up. Why don’t you read for yourself and stop asking me to do the work for you?

    If you want the migrants that will come with open borders, then you should live in the region they enter and take care of them, instead of foisting the results of your virtue-signalling on the rest of us.

    Sierra Leone, Liberia and Haiti are the top three countries people want to get out of. About half of those migrants won’t be literate, so good luck finding them jobs. If not, I’m sure you are a very generous person and you will be happy to support a first-world lifestyle for them.

  • Anjasha Freed

    #2 was the same as #1. Remember? You said “See #1”.

    And, yes. Your naive political positions would transform our nation into a failed socialist state.

    Socialist states depend on a LOT of willing and law-abiding producers to support people who cannot participate in an advanced economy. The Nordic nations are finding out where the tipping point is right now. Citizens who sacrificially paid into the system are now finding their benefit payouts cut down so that the massive numbers of new immigrants get benefits.

    Money doesn’t grow on trees, bentley. Welfare states are a social contract and the people who pay in expect a payout. Not to have their money redistributed to economic opportunists from other continents.

  • bentley

    You really seem to believe that it’s incumbent on society to find jobs for half of the illiterates coming here because of open borders and mass immigration, and to pay for their first-world lifestyles.

    That might be funny if some people didn’t actually believe it. The reality is that it doesn’t matter if every single person on earth wants to move here. They can’t. That’s what sensible immigration and enforcement policy is for. To use one of your examples, it’s nearly impossible to come here from somewhere like Sierra Leone. Don’t take my word for it, see what the U.S. Embassy has to say. https://sl.usembassy.gov/visas/immigrant-visas/

    You still haven’t named a single legitimate politician or candidate for any office who’s ever advocated for open borders or “mass immigration,” whatever you think that is. While we’re at it, what is “virtue signalling” and what virtues am I signalling?

  • bentley

    You love your statistics. Ok.

    According to statistics, 14 million immigrants came into the USA between 2000-2010 alone.
    Who are they, where did they come from and, in dollar amounts, what resources did they drain? How many came here because their families were here and took care of them when they arrived? How many actually came and took care of their families who were already here and struggling? How many came here as experts in fields that needed them? What jobs did the immigrants steal and how many? Those are just some questions to start with.

    According to statistics, joblessness is at record lows and employers are scrambling to find employees. That means we need more immigrants to fill jobs, not less. Statistically speaking, immigrants aren’t stealing, they’re contributing.

    The Library of Congress tells us that about 15 million immigrants came here between 1900-1915, approximately 40 times as many as had come in the previous 40 years – combined. According to statistics, we’ve practically closed our borders compared to 100 years ago.

    I don’t claim to be an expert in economics, but I know enough to understand that statistics without context are meaningless until they’re used by people to shore up their confirmation bias. Then they kill all hope of productive debate.

  • bentley

    Nothing in that post has anything to do with the subject of sensible immigration policy and enforcement.

    You live in a world of on/off switches and you know nothing about me or my views.

  • Chari McCauley

    I know I’m a bit late, sorry.

    I know the word ignorance is supposed to mean a lack of knowledge, but the word ignore means to pretend the truth is not there in front of you. So, I question the ignorance part; it seems mean spirited is more accurate.