Hurtado, Dunn, and Gathercole on the Pre-Existence and Worship of Jesus in New Testament Christology

Hurtado, Dunn, and Gathercole on the Pre-Existence and Worship of Jesus in New Testament Christology

Larry Hurtado announced on his blog that his review of James D. G. Dunnโ€™s latest book has been published. He also shared a link to something he wrote about Martin Hengelโ€™s impact on English-speaking scholarship.

Nick Norelli shared recordings of lectures by Simon Gathercole on Jesusโ€™ pre-existence. I still find Simonโ€™s view unpersuasive. No amount of discussion of alleged parallels the the โ€œI have comeโ€ language placed on the lips of humans and angels in other literatureย will be decisive, since when one considers the matter linguistically, it is obvious that โ€œI have comeโ€ is something that human beings say all the time, in every language. And so the difference between the meaning when placed on the lips of humans and angels is the context: angels are assumed to come from heaven to earth, humans are not. And so unless there is some explicit indication in a piece of literature that Jesus is viewed as a figure who previously existed in heaven, then โ€œI have comeโ€ should not have connotations of โ€œcoming from heavenโ€ read into it. And in the Synoptic Gospels, the idea of Jesus as the incarnation of a pre-existent figure is completely absent โ€“ unless one wishes to view the descent of the Spirit upon Jesus at his baptism in those terms.


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