Why don’t you just get out of the Army if you hate it?

Why don’t you just get out of the Army if you hate it? October 17, 2011

Spoiler: I don’t hate it…?

Fred English is a super-troll who goes out of his way to harass foxhole atheists. He found me on Facebook and has been saying dumb things to me ever since.

Like this:

“why dont you get out? if you dont like what the army does you damn sure joined and i know you did not get drafted” – Fred English, ignorant troll

My reply:

‎Fred English, why would I get out of the Army? I love the Army, I love this country, and I follow my oath to serve and defend the Constitution from all enemies foreign and domestic.

Have you ever disagreed with some part of the government? Have you ever voted? Why don’t you just leave this country? I know you aren’t forced to stay.

I’m just saying…. Don’t be like this guy.

Feel free to add me on Facebook if you like, I have about a thousand slots left. I prefer people who may actually help us write letters or sign petitions when they see my rare-ish pleas for help.

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  • “Why don’t you stop being different, then we wouldn’t have to bully you”, common refrain from bullies everywhere.

    One problem assholes like this guy have is that most other countries aren’t exactly clamoring for their presence. Really, only in America are you really free to be that level of asshole.

  • Retired Prodigy Bill

    I took the same oath to protect the Constitution, I agreed to follow the UCMJ. And the fact is that “the Army” doesn’t do these things (that is the fallacy of reification). People within the Armed Services do these things, and they are wrong to do them and are often acting unlawfully. If you saw someone shoplifting from the PX and brought it to the attention of the authorities, should you be told to “just get out of the Army?”

    Sometimes the people within the armed services who do wrong things have sufficient power and influence that these violations become systemic. (As a former zoomie, some of the tales coming out of the Academy in Colorado are horrifying.) Systemic injustice is still injustice, systemic unlawful acts are still unlawful.

    My grandfather was an army CSM (CIB with 2 stars), and he lived through Executive Order 9981. His view, by the time I came around, was brutally simple: judge people on their competence at doing what they are supposed to do. Unlawful interference with a person’s religious views, like unlawful discrimination due to skin color, is prima facie evidence of incompetence.

  • Makoto

    Fred’s got a fascinating response to me, considering my reaction to your articles tends to be more like “Wow.. this guy loves working for the military / his country so much he wants to make it a better place. Lesser people would run away from that kind of problem.”

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