Mailbag: A Christian Responded to a Call for Guest Writers. I Replied.

Mailbag: A Christian Responded to a Call for Guest Writers. I Replied. November 1, 2018

Recently, I posted on Facebook and on a blogger job board looking for guest contributors, as I do from time to time. I like to bring in perspectives or personal stories from new writers to mix things up. Besides, this is SecularVoices, not The Secular Voice of Kevin Davis. So look forward to a few new contributors starting soon!

Benjamin Roussey

Today I received a response from Benjamin Roussey, a Christian who, in all his typical loving Christian ways, thought it would be a good idea to email me and tell me what he thought about atheism. Unsurprisingly, it was one of your typical “atheists are idiots” messages that come in by the dozens. This, however, was the first one I received on a job board. Because of this, it didn’t carry along with it the cover of Twitter or Reddit anonymity. It was accompanied by a full name, photo, and email address. This wasn’t a drive-by “atheists are going to hell” message. It was sent by someone who registered at a blogger job board and was looking for employment. So like any considerate prospective employer, I responded. Here’s the exchange, for your amusement.

Here’s the response I just sent to Benny boy:

Dear Benjamin,

Thank you for your message. Your willingness to consider the viewpoints of people unlike yourself is refreshing. Oops, sorry. I think I misspoke. What I meant to say was that your lack of ability to fathom anyone not believing what you were programmed to believe is pretty commonplace in the Christian community. You’re a dime a dozen.

While I realize you disagree with the concept of atheism, I’m afraid that based on your ignorant tirade about it, you don’t at all understand it.

Atheism is not a gamble. Atheism is a conclusion based on evaluation of evidence (or lack thereof). Subscribing to one religion or believing in one of the over 2,000 gods that have been worshipped throughout human history is indeed the gamble. Would you take a bet in a casino with 2000:1 odds? I think not. Yet, you’re wasting your time and mine by sending this nonsense to me and judging a person you’ve never met, calling me irrational, when in fact, I’m the one who’s made a rational conclusion based on facts, not mystical tales written by desert dwellers who didn’t know where the sun went at night. You know all those gods you don’t believe in? All 2,000+ of them? I just go one god further than you. I walk right by the casino and live my life, not wasting time on foolish pursuits.

Thank you for the information regarding what historical figures believed in a deity. I’m sorry to hear you’re unable to think for yourself and feel your belief system is validated just because historical figures subscribed. I could also give you a list of very intelligent and successful people who are atheists. Will you then tell me you’re smarter than them? Do you see the irrelevance of your claim yet? It’s called the Appeal to Authority Fallacy. I’d go so far as to say that, based on your complete lack of internet privacy measures and how easy it was to find your company, home address and phone number, most people on the internet are smarter than you, let alone prominent atheists. I guess that University of Phoenix education isn’t working out for you very well.

Thank you for the history lesson on mass held in the nation’s capitol. (It’s spelled with an -ol by the way. Being such an accomplished writer, I figured you’d know that, but it looks like I was wrong.) Yes, it’s true there were services held in the capitol in the 1800s. We also had legalized slavery in the 1800s. Is that still ok too? No, both would be considered bad ideas by today’s standards. So just because something was acceptable then, doesn’t mean it was right. And you might want to start using better sources than Wallbuilders, founded by David Barton, a disgraced “historian” who actually writes books and gives speeches based on his personal version of revisionist history. He’s been debunked so many times that even his publisher dropped him and pulled his book off the shelves. https://www.patheos.com/blogs/secularvoices/2012/08/24/david-bartons-book-pulled-for-falsifying-us-history-to-fit-evangelical-agenda/

If you’re subscribing to the revisionism that David Barton shovels, that’s just further evidence of your own lack of rational, critical thinking. Yet you said I’m the irrational one.

You advised me to know what country I live in. I certainly do. I live in the United States of America, a nation that was founded on the principle of individual freedoms. Because of this, I have the right to speak publicly without the fear of governmental retribution. I also have the right to worship however I want, or not at all, and the government cannot tell me otherwise. I think you’re suggesting I move out of the US because people like the disgraced David Barton have told you the US is a “Christian nation.” That’s blatantly false. While the US is primarily a nation of Christians, it is not a Christian nation. It is a secular constitutional federal republic. There is no mention of adherence to a particular religion in any of our founding documents or current laws. There is, however, the Establishment Clause of the First Amendment to the Constitution that says exactly the opposite. Picking up a history book written by actual historians might do you some good.

You asked me if an atheist was ever crucified and rose from the dead. My answer is no. I’ll expand on that. No one has ever been crucified and rose from the dead, despite the mention of it in your holy book, as well as in other, older religions. Did you know that resurrections occur in many religions that predate Christianity, and that it’s possible Christianity borrowed that concept? Probably not, because you’re a brainwashed short-sighted idiot who doesn’t realize there are people living completely joyful, fulfilling lives outside his Christian bubble.

Finally, if anyone is selling baby parts on eBay, please notify the authorities and eBay. I’m certain that type of auction is prohibited on the site and has actually never happened. But you go on believing more fantasies if you wish. That’s your prerogative. I certainly won’t push my beliefs on you or ask you to reconsider your delusion. See how that works?

I wrote a book that helps people like yourself understand the reasons people become atheists (because I care about more than just myself), and I’d offer it to you for free if I thought you’d actually read it. But since you decided to email me your unsolicited and wholly ignorant opinions about atheism, I can tell you have no interest in acceptance, understanding or building bridges. So go f— yourself. (Edited for Patheos advertisers.)

This letter will be published on my site today. Enjoy!

Regards,

Kevin Davis

SecularVoices.org

UPDATE: Since sending my response, I have received 9 direct emails from this lunatic, all with psychotic religious rambling, most of which was only in the SUBJECT LINE. Who does this? This is a person who calls himself a writer.

 


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  • larry parker

    But, did he get the job?????

    • If he would have spelled “capitol” right he would have.

      • chemical

        But the exclamation points!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! How can you not hire someone who uses that many exclamation points!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! He may not be the best writer out there, but whatever he says, you know it’s going to be the loudest!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

        He also spelled “Damn” wrong, in the email where he’s ranting about Hillary Clinton. And you know what’s funny? In the Wallbuilders link, “capitol” is spelled correctly.

    • Chakat Firepaw

      Well, he did get his writing published on the blog….

    • TheBookOfDavid

      Well, if he fails to pass muster for Secular Voices, Roussey can always get published on a sandwich board, or a plain white van.

  • Good old Christian love!

  • Perhaps Italy or Canada is the place to be for you.

    I just can’t stop giggling at this.

    • chemical

      Canada is a well-known socialist hellhole.
      /s

      • Gary Whittenberger

        Canada is a well-known socialist paradise. We need a little more socialism in the US.

        • Cynthia

          Only in comparison to the US. I’m trying to deal with a newly homeless client today, so not everything is perfect.

          I have no idea what being American has to do with having religious faith though. Does he think God only exists in the US?

          • Gary Whittenberger

            In calling Canada a “paradise” I was being hyperbolic to counter chemical’s claim that it is a “hellhole.”

            God doesn’t exit anywhere, but the idea of God exists in Canada as well as the US.

  • John Pieret

    Stupidity is evolution’s way to warn that you’re dealing with an idiot.

  • Well, that was very entertaining!

    He is a classic example of someone with strong simple beliefs that make no sense and for which he has no evidence. But he’s smart and you’re dumb!!!!!!!

    He said “Arabs, Jews, Romans, Africans and many others witnessed the miracles that Jesus Christ performed…”

    I wish I could ask him how he knows that.

  • coragyps

    I’d like to see his citation on mass being celebrated in the Capitol back in the day. Maybe an Episcopal one, but “mass” sounds awfully Papist for the early 1800’s, even for them.

  • Michael Neville

    I like what Thomas Jefferson said about atheism: “I do not care if my neighbor worships one god, twenty gods or no gods. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg.”

    • TheBookOfDavid

      I like Jefferson’s bible, the most concise and rational version of gospel literature in his generation.

    • He truly spoke for every person who yearned after truth and freedom.

      Well every white person, I mean.

  • Gary Whittenberger

    I believe your response was excellent, except for these two uncivil remarks:

    “Did you know that resurrections occur in many religions that predate Christianity, and that it’s possible Christianity borrowed that concept? Probably not, because you’re a brainwashed short-sighted idiot who doesn’t realize there are people living completely joyful, fulfilling lives outside his Christian bubble.

    But since you decided to email me your unsolicited and wholly ignorant opinions about atheism, I can tell you have no interest in acceptance, understanding or building bridges. So go f- yourself. (Edited for Patheos advertisers.)”

    Totally uncalled for, not consistent with secular humanist values.

    • I disagree. Secular humanism doesn’t dictate that you have to be nice to assholes.

      • Gary Whittenberger

        I disagree. Civility is a secular humanist value. Calling people who disagree with you “assholes” is uncivil.

        • I didn’t call him an asshole because he disagreed. Not all people who disagree with me are assholes. That guy is, for sure.

          • Gary Whittenberger

            Ok, it doesn’t matter why. You shouldn’t have called him an “asshole.” That is not consistent with secular humanist values.

          • No, it DOES matter why. If someone comes at me the way he did, I’m going to tell him what I think about him. You can take away my secular humanist card. I couldn’t care less.

          • Gary Whittenberger

            No, it doesn’t matter why. You can disagree with him or criticize his behavior without calling him an “asshole.” That kind of behavior is uncivil, unethical, unwise, anti-humanist, unhelpful, counter-productive, and unnecessary.

          • Oh please. Get off your horse already, king of sanctimony. If your version of humanism means I can’t tell someone to fuck off every now and then, then I’ll opt out. Stick to judging yourself on your dogmatic criteria and leave the rest of us out of it.

          • Gary Whittenberger

            I reject your request. Your “asshole” and “fuck off” comments were totally out of line. You are a moderator? Please moderate thyself so that others don’t have to.

            I think you should withdraw your uncivil comments or apologize to the guy for them.

            You will probably block me or censor me because I am criticizing your unethical behavior. That would be an abuse of power.

          • I wish you could see how ridiculous you are. Move along now.

          • Gary Whittenberger

            I wish you could see how uncivil your comments were. That would be a good first step.

          • Bye, Captain Sanctimony.

          • Gary Whittenberger

            Saying “bye” doesn’t correct your uncivil behavior. Calling people names doesn’t either. You are just showing your readers that you don’t take criticism well. It’s a shame since most of your response to your opponent was relevant, reasonable, articulate, and civil.

            I think you are going to block me or censor me.