Cardinals condemn life-saving abortion

Cardinals condemn life-saving abortion March 8, 2009

AN ABORTION carried out to save the life of a nine-year-old Brazilian girl who conceived twins as a result of alleged abuse by her step-father has led to her mother, and the doctors involved, being excommunicated by the Catholic Church.
Among those who criticised the church’s action was Brazil’s President Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva, himself a Catholic. According to the BBC the President said:

The doctors did what had to be done: save the life of a girl of nine years old.

But a senior Vatican cleric has defended the excommunication. Cardinal Giovanni Battista Re told Italian paper La Stampa that the twins “had the right to live” and that attacks on Brazil’s Catholic Church were unfair.
Brazil only permits abortions in cases of rape or health risks to the mother. Doctors said the girl’s case met both these conditions, but the Archbishop of Olinda and Recife, Jose Cardoso Sobrinho, above, said the law of God was above any human law.
He said the excommunication would apply to the child’s mother and the doctors, but not to the girl because of her age.
Cardinal Re, who heads the Roman Catholic Church’s Congregation for Bishops and the Pontifical Commission for Latin America, told La Stampa that the archbishop had been right to excommunicate the mother and doctors.

It is a sad case but the real problem is that the twins conceived were two innocent persons, who had the right to live and could not be eliminated. Life must always be protected, the attack on the Brazilian Church is unjustified.

The abortion was carried out last Wednesday.
The girl, who lives in the north-eastern state of Pernambuco, was allegedly sexually assaulted over a number of years by her stepfather, possibly since she was six.
The fact that she was four months’ pregnant with twins was only discovered after she was taken to hospital in Pernambuco complaining of stomach pains.
Her stepfather was arrested last week, allegedly as he tried to escape to another region of the country.
He is also suspected of abusing the girl’s physically handicapped 14-year-old sister.
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  • The poor girl couldnpt possibly have carried ourt the pregnancy? Why hadn’t the heinous priests thought of that? It was SACROSANCT saving the child, as the fetuses couldn’t have suurvived anyway. And it’unthinkable that the victim of a rape could be morally obliged to carry out the pregnancy. Churchh is pure shit, But I understand why prelates will be indulgent to child rapists…

  • Alun

    Maybe according to the warped thinking of the chief paeds, if the child had died in labour then twins would have given them an extra catholic to swell the faith.
    The pronouncements of these skirted pederasts get ever more ridiculous with time. I bet the girls’ mother and the quacks that saved her life are pleased to have been cut free from their sick religion.
    I bet John Paul II would have kept a lid on this, but Ratzi’s boys just can’t avoid the dogshit on the pavement. Can you imagine living in medieval Europe and being pushed around by these cnuts? The sooner they’re gone the better and hopefully Mr Toothbrush Moustache’s extreme views will speed them over the cliff.

  • Dr William Harwood

    The President of Brazil should take a lesson from Queen Elizabeth Tudor, who would have known how to put an unelected archbishop in his place. When 300 priests instructed English citizens that they were to ignore the laws of England and obey the laws of a foreign state, she hanged them for treason. While execution is barbaric and subhuman, in order to achieve the necessary end of depriving religion of the power to make laws that should belong only to elected governments, it may be a necessary means. At the very least, in condemning Brazilian citizens to be tortured with flamethrowers for trillions of years, the archbishop is guilty of uttering death threats. Surely that is a criminal offence even in godphuqt Brazil?

  • Alun

    Frankie might post here. Look out, he’s godphuqt (Ref: Harwood).

  • Yeah, who cares if the child suffers and likely dies as a result of the pregnancy? The so-called “pro-life” RRRW proves once again that “life” means the fetus, nothing more.

  • Bubblecar

    Really makes you wonder: how obvious does evil have to be, before superstitious people recognise it, and reject it?

  • Net Walker

    The worst part of this is that child sexual abuse –also involving stepfathers and stepdaughters– is quite common here in Brazil (esp. in the inland northeast).

  • newspaniard

    “…the law of God was above any human law…” Now, where have I heard that before? Ah, yes! Don’t terrorist leaders use it all the time. Nuff said. Bloody twats.

  • Behind those silly red hats there’s some serious malice at work.

  • ZombieHunter

    So is this poor girls step father going to be excommunicated??
    Though personally I think the doctors and the childs mother should tell the catholic church where to get off and I think the President of Brazil was a bit too liberal in his critisism of them.

  • Ryan

    The stepfather has a future in the church, maybe a cardinal or something…
    These people make me ill, really really ill, in fact. And it’s not the first time, years ago there was 14 yr old kid in Ireland, and just recently an 11 year old kid from Romania.
    Something in common, yes, they were all betrayed by their own family and raped, and yes they were all refused an abortion. Fucking barbarians all…

  • Mike

    I saw this on on that “piousness of the day” (or whatever it is, the site that mocks “thought for the day”) site. The poster ended it with the thoughtful comment “after all this, who would want to be called a catholic?”

  • valdemar

    Historically, the Vatican has always taken a tolerant and understanding line towards its own child-rapists, hasn’t it? When did a Cardinal ever say ‘You raped a child, Father Flaherty I’m calling the cops’? My guess is never. The Catholic love of children stops when they emerge from the womb, whereupon they become fair game for paedophiles.

  • Godless not gormless

    I just want to echo the comments of everyone else here. It’s crazy that they can justify their view by the claim that the unborn children had a right to live, yet they don’t even consider that the already living child, or young woman if you’re a muslim, carrying them also has a right to live. But then reason was never their strong point (do they even have a strong point?).
    Also, as noted by others here, there is no mention of excommunicating the step father. I guess they’re too busy arranging his escape from justice. Or is that perk only for members of the clergy?
    This has to be all good in the end. The present catholic church is crucifying itself (isn’t that blasphemy on their part?) and we should be thankful for that at least. We should also be thankful that they got involved in this case AFTER the abortion and not before. If they had got involved before, it is conceivable that this little girl, or young woman if you’re a muslim, would have had to go through with giving birth to these twins and lost her life in the process. Her babies may have died also. What then would have been achieved by these morons?
    They should be taken to task over this whole “gods law is above any human’s law” garbage. This is a very dangerous view to hold and is the cause of many extremist actions. What does it take for politicians to stand up to these people the way they should?

  • Wurble

    Celibate pricks in frocks, the lot of em. I’m disgusted!

  • Stonyground

    This case is getting universal coverage on all the atheist websites that I regularly visit. I haven’t noticed it being covered elsewhere, the story deserves wider coverage. This would hopefully be another nail in the coffin of the vile Catholic Church.
    Bubblecar. If it was that easy the Church would have imploded long ago.

  • The Catholic Church is, has been, and will always be malecentric to the extent that women, no matter how old, have few, if, any rights no matter what the bible (a horror comic book)says. More people born into impoverished conditions are more likely to seek religion (and therefore tithe to gain redemtion)for everyday woes. Suffering is the only way to get to heaven according to Christian dogma and age is no barrier. Religious!!!! Thomas J. Pitner

  • Eli

    President Lula da Silva also said “in this case, medicine is right and church is wrong”.
    46% of women who make illegal abortions in Brazil are Catholic.

  • Peter T

    The Catholic Church is just vile, vile, vile ..
    How can they get away with this nonsense astounds me ? Anyone who can say what that frocked red capped wearing ar$eh*le said should be locked up … this anti-woman, peado-protecting biscuit-loving hate-promoting organisation should be banned full stop.
    Why aren’t the mainstream news-sites promoting this story ??

  • Jeremy

    What the hell is wrong with you people? The church didnt defend th stepfather, they condemned the murderers of innocent babies. Granted thegirl didnt choose to be raped, but that doesnt give her the right to kill innocents. Can’t you see this is a radically biased article? You are some seriously simple minded people.

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