October's nutjob of the month claims evolution is the cause of homosexuality

October's nutjob of the month claims evolution is the cause of homosexuality October 11, 2009

OCCUPYING top spot in Reddit’s atheist section today is a leaflet created by Christian loony Herb Grossman, the mastermind behind a blog called TrashEvolution, “dedicated to helping teenagers see the dangers of evolution”.
The leaflet makes a number of bizarre claims about evolution, but none as wacky as the assertion that it encourages one to “become a homosexual” – and that “homosexuality is a cruel hoax”.leaflet
On his blog, Jesus junkie Grossman elaborates:

What I write or say concerning belief in evolution being a major encouragement towards homosexuality is not meant to win some popularity contest – some of you will laugh and think I am stupid for writing this; but the shoes I have walked in – the years of aggravation while fighting off the cause of homosexuality – have given me a certain amount of sympathy for the homosexual and a hatred for the way evolution is such a big factor in keeping many of them trapped in their unfortunate perversion.

Grossman - in denial about his homosexuality?
Grossman - in denial about his homosexuality?
Grossman, it appears, was inspired to concoct TrashEvolution after he once:

Fell into about three months of doing perverse, homosexual acts with invisible, supernatural people/beings. Strong thoughts and sensations would get things started—but I was not the cause; I did not seek those perversions—I was the victim!

The wanker hurries to make clear:

I have never acted in any perverted/homosexual manner with any man or boy, nor felt any attraction/sensation towards the same. However, I am not claiming total innocence on my part, as I must admit to some perverse actions (sometimes with use of pornography) in my past that I am ashamed of … Looking back, I suspect those past actions likely made me an attractive target to the supernatural ‘persons’ that drive the homosexual deception system.

The Grossman blog’s opening message declares:

America’s young people are being robbed of their intellectual potentials.
By allowing the atheists to teach our young people the imaginary “science” of evolution, we are crippling the ability of America’s youth to survive and thrive in life’s real world.
We adults have been wrong and dumb to let atheists get control of our schools. I have grown quite tired of reading and hearing the atheists’ adult fairy tales about evolution and its “let’s pretend” approach to science – -I feel even worse when I hear young people mimic atheist-evolutionist thinking – which is why I have established this site.

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  • Ooh, Barry! I'm just praying that some of these "invisible, supernatural beings" visit me tonight to engage in some "perverse, homosexual acts"! I will be their more than willing "victim" – it's what I've always dreamed of!!

  • Having had a shufty round the website, to make fun of this man almost seems like laughing and pointing at the mentally ill or a wounded animal. He is literally quite mad, describing (amongst other experiences) a 'big foam hand' repeatedly patting him on the shoulder, rods sprouting from his chest once when he was in bed and, upon arriving home from church in a huff, a 'bearded man' pulling him into a sitting position, then vanishing into thin air. He admits to having a long history of addictions and financial disasters as well as passages suggesting that he is a self-loathing homosexual.
    In short, a disturbed extreme introvert trying to make sense of his life to the point where he sees the material, scientific world as the fantasy one.

  • Mad as a tree full chickens he may be, but unfortunately other extreme religious nutters will use Grossman's delusions as some sort of rallying cry. He should find himself a partner then perhaps he won't be so self loathing. I love the bit about atheists controlling schools, what tosh! The corrupting tentacles of religion are all over most schools here in the UK.

  • A religious wacko and a lunatic at the same time? Never!

  • I can't understand why these people have so much issues with homosexualism. Perhaps they all are indeed in denial.
    "I did not seek those perversions—I was the victim!"
    I mean, really?

  • You've answered your own question there, J.C. It's a part of themselves that they find so utterly repulsive that they have to fight it in others – by proxy, as it were. I remember a friend of mine who used to say that the worst thing about having children was seeing all the worst aspects of your own personality in their behaviour!

  • chrsbol

    It's getting near halloween, where do you live?

  • William Harwood

    Doesn't America have sufficient funny farms where such pathetic creatures as Grossman can be spoonfed and have their diapers changed, at far less cost to the taxpayer than allowing them to walk the streets and pollute the www?

  • I too have been tormented and victimised by strong thoughts of supernatural beings.
    In my case it's Hugh Jackman, playing Wolverine in X-Men, stripped to the waist, muscles glistening with oil.

  • I love the way these people label evolution as some kind of evil force when they don't have a clue what the word even means. Homosexuality is, in evolutionary terms, maladaptive. Until certain girls started doing things with turkey-basters, gay people were at an obvious disadvantage when it comes to passing on their genes. Why evolution has failed to eliminate homosexuality, both in humans and in the rest of the natural world is an interesting question but if Grossman actually knew anything at all about evolution, surely he would recognise it as the gay-basher's freind. Of course, the fact that Grossman is a self-loathing closet case is transparantly obvious.

  • My windows are now open every night, Urmensch!

  • "Homosexuality is, in evolutionary terms, maladaptive." Actually, families and societies which accept the help of their Queer members fare better than those which do not. The non-breeders have always been free to help their own families and societies because they do not have children, for the most part. This allows their families and societies to thrive and succeed where other societies or families which reject the help of their non-breeding members do not do as well without the extra help. It is my opinion that a certain percentage of non-breeders, gay people, are necessary for every society to thrive, and that nature and evolution control that percentage. Overcrowding causes more rats to become "homosexuals", for example, helping their society out by not breeding and by being available with more time for finding food.

  • Robert Stovold

    I'm a Zoologist by background, and am therefore a great fan of the King James Version of the Bible, which mentions cockatrices (Jer. 8:17, Isa. 11:8 59:5) unicorns (Deut. 33:17, Psalms 22:21. 29:6, Job 39:9-10), satyrs (Isa. 34:14, 13:21) and fiery flying serpents (Isa. 14:29, 30:6). And let's not conclude our bible-based biology lessions without reference to the fact that birds have four feet (Lev. 11:20-21)!

  • Yeah, us homos are just the poor "workers" in society – but someone's got to do it, I suppose! (Good points though.)

  • Robert Stovold

    If homosexuality is adaptive in starved rats, I suspect it's not for that reason. The idea that animals do things for the good of "their society" is called Group Selection. It's rarely thought to be a very important force, and is typically trumped by organisms that behave for the good of their genes. (Dawkins' book "The Selfsh Gene" gives a very readable explanation of why this is so). Another objection is that homosexual rats could presumably free up even more time in which to find food for their society if they'd just ditch sex altogether and became asexual, so you'd think starved rats would become asexual, not homosexual!

  • As do INSECTS, of course, Robert. You forgot them! (I have to say in defence of the Bible, though, that most of these "fantastical" creatures only existed in the minds of the TRANSLATORS. It was their ignorance of the original words which forced them to make such wild guesses!!)

  • Kaptain

    I was disappointed. I thought he was going to take evolution and argue against it. I didn't see how else he would show that evolution has a backward thought pattern and invalid logic. He might even have presented some evidence that isn't a hallucination of his!
    But instead he argued against an assumption that a biology textbook made, using logic exercises. (See "Impairs Thinking Ability" in his blog if you can even be bothered.) Not only is this textbook paragraph NOT the theory of evolution, the textbook had made an assumption that the reader would be a scientist, and look at the evidence they had for birds and mammals having a common ancestor as opposed to animals being created seperately.
    So, maybe if Mr Grossman had a claim of his own, he would then follow suit and perhaps present some of his own evidence? The textbook was not an exercise in rationalising out the possibilty of an intelligent designer through logic.
    Not only did he avoid the definition and arguments of evolution completely, but he still hasn't justified his views.
    Yet, evolution is what he calls superstitious? His "supernatural" experiences are not evidence either since they can't be measured or verified in any way, so where is his logic saying that:
    A) An intelligent designer must be correct and the theory of evolution must be false IF
    B) he experienced a bearded guy pick him up into sitting position by the spine and then disappear?

  • Jo Bell

    I was disappointed. I thought he was going to take evolution and argue against it. I didn't see how else he would show that evolution has a backward thought pattern and invalid logic. He might even have presented some evidence that isn't a hallucination of his!
    But instead he argued against an assumption that a biology textbook made, using logic exercises. (See "Impairs Thinking Ability" in his blog if you can even be bothered.) Not only is this textbook paragraph NOT the theory of evolution, the textbook had made an assumption that the reader would be a scientist, and look at the evidence they had for birds and mammals having a common ancestor as opposed to animals being created seperately.
    So, maybe if Mr Grossman had a claim of his own, he would then follow suit and perhaps present some of his own evidence? The textbook was not an exercise in rationalising out the possibilty of an intelligent designer through logic.
    Not only did he avoid the definition and arguments of evolution completely, but he still hasn't justified his views.
    Yet, evolution is what he calls superstitious? His "supernatural" experiences are not evidence either since they can't be measured or verified in any way, so where is his logic saying that:
    A) An intelligent designer must be correct and the theory of evolution must be false IF
    B) he experienced a bearded guy pick him up into sitting position by the spine and then disappear?

  • Sometimes a facepalm is the only appropriate response.

  • harry

    grossman loves up the bum, but it's not his god's fault

  • polomint38

    Why the same post by 2 posters @Jo Bell & @Kaptain
    If you agree with a post, say so.
    If both are posted by the same person, shame on you.

  • Rozi

    Why do I get the feeling he's probably a victim of clergy sexual abuse?
    As for visitations from supernatural beings, please can they look like a cross between Eighth Doctor Paul McGann and David Tennant? My husband won't mind.