Norway's Ambassor offers Pakistan a grovelling apology over reprinted Motoons

Norway's Ambassor offers Pakistan a grovelling apology over reprinted Motoons January 29, 2010

FOLLOWING an attempt on the life of Danish cartoonist Kurt Westergaard on January 2, the Norwegian newspaper, Aftenposten, reprinted six of the 12 Motoons that Jyllands-Posten published in 2005. The JP drawings ignited Muslim fury around the world.

Ambassor Kvile and Westergaard's iconic motoon
Now the Daily Mail – the Pakistani Daily Mail, that is – has reported that Norway’s Ambassador to Pakistan, Robert Kvile has offered Federal Minister for Religious Affairs, Syed Hamid Saeed Kazmi, a grovelling apology for their re-publication, and has promised to look into the possibility of introducing laws to prevent any further insults of Islam in Norway.
Kvile, the paper says:

Strongly regretted the publication of caricatures of the Holy Prophet (PBUH). He expressed his great concern over the consequences of such publication, and informed the minister that his country respects the religion of Islam and that the people of Norway would never support the publication of caricatures which damages the feelings of the whole Muslim community.

Kvile indicated that that his government:

Would strive to reform understandings and to devise a strategy to stop such practices in future.

Kazmi told Kvile that the people of Pakistan were very sensitive, and that their angry reactions to the cartoons:

Were genuine and constructive.

He added that Islam teaches tolerance and peace and discourages extremism.
The Minister also demanded that the Norwegian government enact legislation to prevent the publication of such cartoons in the future.

This will convey a good message to the Muslim community and help promote interfaith harmony amongst various communities.

Kvile reportedly agreed with the suggestion of introducing legislation, concurred with the Kazmi that Islam favours peace and tolerance, and quoted the last sermon of the “Holy Prophet” who directed followers to maintain peace .
He promised Kazmi that he would do what he could:

To help stop of the publication of such caricatures in future and assured the minister that he would communicate the feelings of the government and people of Pakistan to his government.

According to this report:

Kvile has studied the Holy Quran in detail and believes that Islam is a religion of peace.

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  • Angela_K

    This action by Kvile, a spineless ambassador and islam apologist has let the muzzie extremists win. He is obviously not familiar with the give an inch take a mile tactics of the religion of perpetual outrage and judging from his comments could be a potential convert. His actions may set a dangerous precedent or start further grovelling apologies from muslim appeasing Governments. I’ve always liked the Norwegians for their no nonsense approach to matters, but this guy has done his country and the World a disservice.

  • Kev

    With a name like Kvile it sounds like he could be ideally suited to being a muzzie. It’s funny we don’t hear anyone form the muzzie community offering even the weakest of apologies for the bombings and murders that have been committed by the followers of the so called religion of peace.

  • Har Davids

    Islam favours peace and tolerance! Yep, over the infidel’s dead body. Isn’t Pakistan one of those peaceful and tolerant countries where you’d better not be a Christian, because you might get killed because of that?

  • Does that include “peaceful” suicide bombings, “peaceful” stoning, “peaceful” execution of homosexuals, “peaceful” acid attacks on uppity women, “peaceful” wife battery and “peaceful” death threats/ rioting over cartoons, Mr Kvile?

  • ZombieHunter

    Maybe Norway should respond by sending some of their black metal bands into Pakistan 😛

  • naj

    the quran say about terrorism-The entire Qur’an, taken as a complete text, gives a message of hope, faith, and peace to a faith community of one billion people. The overwhelming message is that peace is to be found through faith in God, and justice among fellow human beings.
    At the time the Qur’an was revealed (7th century A.D.), there was no United Nations or Amnesty International to keep the peace or expose injustice. Inter-tribal violence and vengeance was commonplace. As a matter of survival, one must have been willing to defend against aggression from all sides. Nevertheless, the Qur’an repeatedly urges forgiveness and restraint, and warns believers not to “transgress” or become “oppressors.” Some examples:
    If anyone slays a person
    – unless it be for murder or for spreading mischief in the land –
    it would be as if he slew all people.
    And if anyone saves a life,
    it would be as if he saved the life of all people.
    Qur’an 5:32
    Invite all to the way of your Lord
    with wisdom and beautiful preaching.
    And argue with them
    in ways that are best and most gracious…
    And if you punish,
    let your punishment be proportional
    to the wrong that has been done to you.
    But if you show patience, that is indeed the best course.
    Be patient, for your patience is from God.
    And do not grieve over them,
    or distress yourself because of their plots.
    For God is with those who restrain themselves,
    and those who do good.
    Qur’an 16:125-128
    Oh you who believe!
    Stand out firmly for justice, as witnesses to God,
    even against yourselves, or your parents, or your kin,
    and whether it be against rich or poor,
    for God can best protect both.
    Follow not the cravings of your hearts, lest you swerve,
    and if you distort justice or decline to do justice,
    verily God is well acquainted with all that you do.
    Qur’an 4:135
    The recompense for an injury
    is an injury equal thereto (in degree),
    but if a person forgives and makes reconciliation,
    his reward is due from God,
    for God loves not those who do wrong.
    But indeed, if any do help and defend themselves
    after a wrong done to them,
    against such there is no cause of blame.
    The blame is only against those who oppress men
    with wrongdoing and insolently transgress
    beyond bounds through the land,
    defying right and justice.
    For such there will be a penalty grievous (in the Hereafter).
    But indeed, if any show patience and forgive,
    that would truly be an affair of great resolution.
    Qur’an 42:40-43
    Goodness and evil are not equal.
    Repel evil with what is better.
    Then that person with whom there was hatred,
    may become your intimate friend!
    And no one will be granted such goodness
    except those who exercise patience and self-restraint,
    none but people of the greatest good fortune.
    Qur’an 41:34-35
    But what about those passages of the Qur’an that seem to promote wanton violence? For a full discussion of such verses, please visit the FAQ page: Are there verses of the Qur’an that condone “killing the infidel?”

  • naj

    i don’t know where u heard this that “where you’d better not be a Christian, because you might get killed because of that” in Pakistan we don’t kill Christians there churches in Pakistan there r Hindu’s and Sikhism and Jews in Pakistan we have freedom of religion christian celebrate Christmas in Pakistan and other religions as well i think u getting brainwashed by day time T.V and propaganda news

  • sailor1031

    “Kvile has studied the Holy Quran in detail and believes that Islam is a religion of peace.”
    Only in the grovelling mind of a cowardly accommodationist could the two statements in this sentence be true at the same time. I have studied the Koran myself, in some detail, and can state unequivocally that it is no religion of peace. I draw the attention of the vile Kvile to Suras 2 through 9 in particular. Maybe that part wasn’t in the “detail” he studied. The peace of islam refers only to that state when all unbelievers are either converted, enslaved or (most preferred option in the koran) dead.

  • naj

    the people who suicide bombings r brain washed and they r no friends of Islam “peaceful” stoning that happens in Saudi Arabia and Iran not in Pakistan “peaceful” execution of homosexuals that does not happen if they commit adultery u get life in prison “peaceful” acid attacks on uppity women i don’t think that happens in Pakistan may other Muslim country it happens “peaceful” wife battery not in Pakistan u could go to jail for that and “peaceful” death threats/ rioting over cartoons well u have to would u like if Jesus was getting killed by jews or cartoon of Jews getting gassed by Nazis i would not like that if that was my religion we take our religion very serious

  • naj

    if u want Norway to send black metal rock bands to Pakistan we r welcome we have rock bands in Pakistan and it is getting poplar in Pakistan

  • naj

    The Islamic faith may permit marriage between Jewish and Christian women and Muslim men. I don’t dispute that. The Qur’an (Sura 2.221) says “Do not marry a pagan woman until they believe.” It also allows marriage to “the chaste from among the believing women and the chaste from among those who have been given the Book.” Most Islamic scholars consider the “people of the Book” to be Jews and Christians and “you who were given the Book” to be Muslims. That last passage, however, seems to include non-Muslims among “those who have been given the Book.” In either case, the woman is generally expected to convert to Islam. Any man who marries a woman who doesn’t convert will have difficulties in dealing with other Muslim men. As I indicated in my previous response, a Christian woman may not be allowed to practice her religion, thus forcing her to convert. American Muslims may be a little more lenient in this matter.
    One of the biggest fictions about Islam is that they worship the same God as the Christians or the Jews. “Allah” may have come to mean “God,” but was originally the name of one of the minor deities of the Arabic peninsula. When Muhammed received the Qur’an he said it came from this one of the gods of the neighborhood, and claimed that he was the One God and all others were not real gods. But even if you accept that Allah is supposed to be the same God as that of the Jews or Christians, then he must have changed his whole nature in the 400 years between Jesus and Muhammed.
    Several differences may serve to make the point. The God worshipped by Christians is a God of peace, history notwithstanding. Christianity advocates being at peace with all men. It advocates peaceful spreading of a gospel of grace to willing converts. Islam, on the other hand, advocates spreading the word through force, and endorses killing unbelievers. Regardless of the doctrines proposed by John Calvin, the Christian scriptures indicate that man has free will, and may choose to believe God or not. Islam teaches that God will save those he chooses to save, whether they want to be saved or not, and especially that one who obeys Allah all his life may be rejected merely because Allah chooses to reject him for no apparent reason, or simply because the person is a woman.
    If they are the same person, one wonders why Allah and God can’t agree on history. The Jewish scriptures tell of Isaac as the heir of Abraham who was placed on an altar and saved at the last minute, while Islam says Ishmael was that person. The standard explanation for the difference is that the Jews corrupted the writings for their own purposes, but that Allah says it was Ishmael. That leaves a god who either changed history, or didn’t care when history was rewritten by someone else. The Isaac account dates back at least to several years before Jesus was born, according to documentary evidence. If that is so, and if Jesus was truly a prophet of Allah as it says in Qur’an, would he not correct the error, instead of perpetuating it as he did (Matthew 8:11; Mark 12:26; Luke 13:28, 20:37)? How could a prophet of Allah not correct such a gross error?
    Most importantly, a Christian can not believe they are the same God because Christians believe that Jesus is the “only begotten of the Father” (John 1:14) and the “son of God” (Matthew 16:16-17). They believe that God allowed his son to die on a cross, a sinless sacrifice, so that men could be saved from their sins through faith in him. They believe that “there is no other name under heaven, given among men, whereby we must be saved.” (Acts 4:12) They believe that if God had been able to save man in any other way, surely he would have done so, but he didn’t. They (we) believe that Jesus is the Messiah, the focal point of all history, the one forward to whom all the Old Testament scriptures point and backward to whom all the New Testament scriptures point. All of this is repudiated by the Allah of Islam, who says in his Qur’an that it is error to think that one could call himself a son of Allah and that Jesus did not die on a cross. It is inconceivable to think that the God who said, “This is my beloved Son in whom I am well pleased” (Matthew 3:17) could also say “Allah is only one God; far be It from His glory that He should have a son.” (Sura 4:171)
    A Christian can not believe that the God of Christianity and the Allah of Islam are one and the same. Nor do I know of any Muslim that truly believes that, either. There may be some in both groups that believe it, but in doing so they necessarily compromise their faith.

  • tony e

    His first mistake was to apologise, his second was to continue apoligizing.
    Why oh why do people always want to appease these rug butters?

  • barriejohn

    But at least this means that the cartoons are going to be published AGAIN – hahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  • Chaba

    Way to quote either Meccan verses or vague verses.

  • “Kvile has studied the Holy Quran in detail and believes that Islam is a religion of peace.”
    Oh shit! I’ve been blogging the wrong book!

  • Perspix

    Peace in our time. 1938

  • Perspix

    Kvile is a fool with his head in the sand.
    When politicians talk about Islam being a religion of peace I get the impression they are trying to persuade Muslims, most of whom haven’t read the Quran, of this false notion.
    Unfortunately the Muslims that haven’t read it are not the problem. It’s the Muslims that HAVE read it and know what it instructs them to do to non-believers that is the concern.

  • Dave

    This just proves Norway is a coward.
    Just as Sweden is, and the Netherlands is trying to be.
    Islam is the religion of slavery, nothing so evil has ever
    been put forth as a philosophy except thuggee and national socialism.
    Thugs, Nazis, Muslims they are one and the same, we should be treating them as one and the same.

  • LD

    Null points!

  • imran

    whether u like us or hate us we r going to be here for a long time and no can do anything about it hahahahahahah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Har Davids

    Naj, use this link:‘religion-of-beauty’-claims-another-victim/
    and search this site for ‘Pakistan’.

  • Kev

    And so are we imran, and there is even less that you can do about us except rant and rave and threaten and stamp your feet demanding that we all become adherents of your silly childish beliefs and followers of your stone-age laws. Just remember that there is a large body of people who refuse and will always refuse to be bullied by others into believing in fairies at the bottom of the garden. One simple answer to it all. As the Prime Minister of Australia pointed out not long ago. Everyone is welcome to share our freedoms and amenities but if you want to try and make us all change our beliefs, laws etc then please oblige yourself of another of our freedoms. The freedom to leave and go live somewhere which suits you better. As the Meerkat says…Seemples!

  • Stonyground

    I’m not sure, but I think the job of an Ambassador maybe to simply tell potentially hostile foreigners anything that they want to hear in order to keep relationships with them relatively amicable. In this case this would appear to include making rash promises that he cannot possibly keep.
    I could never do the job because I value honesty and straight talking too much. My response would be to tell them all to effing grow up and grow a skin and stop the “Wah wah wah those nasty westerners are making fun of our prophet again” routine like a bunch of little spoilt toddlers.

  • naj

    har David u have to under stand that happened in urban or rural area Pakistan where the police is corrupt and people pay them large amount of money to keep it silent its not only Muslims that kill other religion its even in India even Hindu’s killing Christians and other country’s as well

  • Broadsword Calling Danny Boy

    Appeasement didn’t stop Hitler, it won’t stop the islamofacists.

  • Marcus

    @kev Very well put, mate. It doesn’t matter which stupid, outdated, irrelevant religion wants to boss us all the most (and let’s face it, there seems to be some kind of competition going between muslims and fundies to see who can be the most fascist-like), those of us who actually understand that it’s all a load of absolute horse shit will always be here making life uncomfortable for them by daring to speak the truth: THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS GOD!

  • Naj – I was referring to atrocities committed in the name of Islam around the world in light of Mr Kvile’s statement, without singling out Pakistani Muslims (or was that already obvious to anyone who had read the whole article?)
    ‘U have to, [We] take our religion very seriously’. Yes, I believe that also sums up the motives and self-justification for all the other things I mentioned.

  • Non Euclidean

    Har Davids – 1
    Naj – 0

  • edward

    I just wantwed to say that policy of not having caricutures of Mohammad the prophet shiould not be done as it does more good then harm. let me explain every religion and culture have their own sensitivities. The way we have treated Jesus has lead to him being ridiculed and does hurt alot of chirstains .
    If some one is shown a cartoon showing a nazi killing a jew or paasing a good remarkt this will hurt the jews and all of us as we have been rightly made to accept this as wrong.
    Now the same attitude can be adopted by towards propthet of the muslims / i see no gain in making fund of him

  • Kev

    Thanks Marcus. I was incensed the other day when out with my wife and teenage daughter in our local town to be handed a leaflet by one of a bunch of muzzie fundies stating that all western women were prostitutes and deserved to be killed. If I were to go out and demand the death of anyone I think I might be arrested and quite rightly so. When the BRITISH law is applied to ALL, the the likes of the EDL and BNP will lose so much credibility. I did report the incident to the police, but guess what…too busy, not important, I was being petty…! No wonder there is such an uprising. I have to say I have several Asian/Muslim/Hindu/you name it friends and they are very concerned about the rise in fundie activity and the fact that they are being focused upon by the right wing nutters. I feel sorry for them because no matter that I don’t share their beliefs I am prepared to RESPECT them, daft as I think they are. Like many I am quite willing to allow anyone their beliefs but NEVER demand that either I or anyone else conform to their woo woo!

  • drcancerman

    The lastet on the religion of pieces. The ones from Pakistan have links
    Death Penalty for Gays, Says Vanderbilt University Chaplain…
    Video Games Banned by Somali Islamists…
    Iranian Cleric Calls for More Political Executions…
    ‘No Panties’ Drive Leaves Islamists Hot and Bothered…
    British Woman Tricked into Bigamist Marriage…
    Man Locks Up Wife, Rapes Daughter…
    Saudis Force Christian Workers to Convert or Lose Job…
    Pornography Burned as Nigerian State Enforces Sharia…
    Tsunami Called ‘Punishment’ for Breaking Sharia Law…
    al-Qaeda Plans to Dress Suicide Bombers as Sikhs…
    Iran Cracks Down on Christian Converts…
    (Spain) Imam on Trial for Threat-ening Woman without Veil…
    Islamists Murder Christian Leader, Threaten Widow…
    al-Qaeda Burns Qur’ans for Propaganda Use…
    Two Pastors Among 48 Cut Down by Religion of Peace in Nigeria…
    Iran’s Supreme Leader Nervous about Living Large…
    Malay Muslim Academics Warn Christians to Toe Line…
    Thousands Attend Funeral of Murdered Catholic Girl…
    Egyptian Copt ‘Framed’ for Rape…
    Airline Shrugs Off Passenger Concerns as Another Muslim Behaves Badly on U.S. Flight…
    Iran Executes Two Political Protesters…
    Pak. President Slaughters Black Goat Each Day to Ward off Evil Eye
    Five Executed for 1975 Massacre of Bangladesh Founder, Family…
    European Jihadis in Gaza…
    (Iraq) Attacks on Aid Workers Dampen Humanitarian Effort…
    CAIR’s Ellison, 54 Others Demo-crats Plead Hamas Case (Opinion)
    Saudi Moral Police Detain Man for Sitting with His Wife…
    (Indonesia) Hundreds of Christ-ians Flee Muslim Violence…
    Montreal Radio Blames Israel for Abu Ghraib…
    Clerics Warn Muslims Not to Read Book on Women & Sharia…
    Brutal Last Minutes of Massacre Victim’s Wife Described…
    Egyptian Converts: ‘They Will Kill Us if They Find Us’…
    Pak. Christian Sentenced to Life for ‘Desecrating’ Qur’an…

  • MrMonist

    I like to pride myself on my ‘good’ English, but the only word I see fit to use is “Cunt”, mega-cunt perhaps, Quislingtastic Cunt might be more appropriate. Even Harwood-style Cunt is even better…

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  • Garlic

    “I was incensed the other day when out with my wife and teenage daughter in our local town to be handed a leaflet by one of a bunch of muzzie fundies stating that all western women were prostitutes and deserved to be killed.”
    I’m working in a country right now where this kind of appalling behaviour would not be tolerated, so of course my own tolerance of it has gone down exponentially. I believe I may get ‘reverse culture shock’ on my return to the West.
    Naj, I have a friend who converted to Islam to make her husband’s mum happy. This is not a real conversion. She loves her husband so much she has agreed to spend her entire life pretending to be a Muslim. Any religion which forces conversions cheapens itself by compelling people to live a lie. Why do you think this is a good thing? Why do you appear to think that this is acceptable? And what if a Hindu or Buddhist woman falls in love with a Muslim man, since they aren’t ‘people of the book’? Actually, best not answer for the Buddhists – we all know about Islam and Buddhism throughout history – just look what was done to the Khotan desert civilisation, to Nalanda university in India and about the land evictions being committed against Bangladesh’s Buddhist minority.
    Also, being gay is an ‘offence’ worthy of the death penalty in Iran and Saudi Arabia. You may be able to make some anti-US comments about Saudi, a very perfidious ‘Western ally’, but no such accusation can be levelled at the Iranian government.

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