Israeli woman alleges rape after sex with an Arab she thought was Jewish

Israeli woman alleges rape after sex with an Arab she thought was Jewish July 21, 2010

AN Arab man, convicted in Israel of rape after he had consensual sex with a Jewish woman who later found out that he was an Arab, has called the verdict racist.
Sabbar Kashur, 30, was found guilty this week  of “rape by deception” by the Israeli court and sentenced to 18 months in jail.
According to the complaint filed by the woman, the two met in a Jerusalem street in 2008 and had sex that day.
According to the BBC, when she discovered he was not Jewish, but an Arab, she went to the police.
Kashur was arrested and charged with rape and indecent assault, but the charges were later replaced by a different charge of “rape by deception”.
Kashur, who has been under house arrest for two years, insists he did not pretend to be Jewish.
He told reporters that he is known by friends and family by the nickname Dudu, which is more commonly used by Jews called David.

If I were Jewish, they wouldn’t have even questioned me.

In the court’s ruling the judge, Zvi Segal, wrote:

If she had not thought the accused was a Jewish bachelor interested in a serious relationship, she would not have co-operated. The court is obliged to protect the public interest from sophisticated, smooth-tongued criminals who can deceive innocent victims at an unbearable price – the sanctity of their bodies and souls.

But Kashur says events were different.

I’d say she set upon me. She was interested in my motorcycle and so we talked. I didn’t pretend.

There is a precedent in Israel for criminal charges being brought in such cases.
One man who told women he slept with he was a neurosurgeon in order to impress them was convicted of fraud.
A lawyer with the Public Defenders’ Office claimed the court had gone too far. Said Elkana Laist:

The test the court used is problematic. Every time a man tells a woman he loves her, based on which she sleeps with him, he could be convicted of rape.

Kashur’s lawyers say he will appeal against the sentence.
Gideon Levy, a liberal Israeli commentator, was quoted in the Guardian as saying:

I would like to raise only one question with the judge. What if this guy had been a Jew who pretended to be a Muslim and had sex with a Muslim woman? Would he have been convicted of rape? The answer is: of course not.

Note: The picture used to illustrate this report was taken from an al Jazeera blog which described the verdict as “incredible”.
Hat tip: Adam Tjaavk

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  • Marcus

    What the feck….?
    “According to the complaint filed by the woman, the two met in a Jerusalem street in 2008 and had sex that day.”
    Nowt wrong with that, I dare say. But then…
    “If she had not thought the accused was a Jewish bachelor interested in a serious relationship, she would not have co-operated.
    WHAT!? They meet in the street, go back to hers and shag each other’s brains out. But… but… her lawyers reckon she thought that was the basis for a ‘serious relationship’?
    And to think I spent weeks and weeks wooing the missus before she ‘co-operated’! I tell you, us romantics have got it seriously wrong.

  • Broadsword

    What bloke hasn’t told porky pies to get into a lady’s knickers?
    That’s what men do and women know it. Whether they play the game or not is their choice. Why should Kashur do time just because his tup felt guilty next day?

  • rog

    It is a bit racist, rather more than a bit – it would never fly in the EU…
    The fact that he was found guilty and got such a harsh sentence for a virtual non-crime demonstrates an inherent bias in Israeli ‘justice’.
    What are the limits to this ‘rape by deception’ claim, they type of car you drive, how much you earn? surely not your religion though! if the claim was up held, but the man was telling the truth, we are talking about an implied claim and that my friends is a step towards lunacy.

  • Russell W

    Perhaps Moslems should be forced to wear a crescent badge,that would protect Israel from the horrors of miscegenation.The real problem is how to deal with those deluded individuals who simply get the hots for each other and don’t care about religion or ‘race’.

  • Brian Jordan

    She was interested in my motorcycle

    Or should that be “hot rod”? Admire the metaphor or deplore the euphemism?

  • So, what language did they speak to each other in?

  • MrGronk

    It is a bit sneaky to falsely claim that your meat is kosher.

  • Har Davids

    As both Jews and Muslims are circumcised, it must be hard to tell if you get kosher or halal. This makes you realise that you don’t necessarily have be a Muslim nowadays to come up with crazy stuff; you meet a guy, have sex and complain when you find out he isn’t a horny Jew but a horny Muslim, and a judge goes for it. Isn’t Israel supposed to be our only democratic ally in the ME?

  • barriejohn

    The court is obliged to protect the public interest from sophisticated, smooth-tongued criminals who can deceive innocent victims at an unbearable price.
    But not if those criminals are Jews who are stealing Palestinian land then!

  • chrsbol

    I wonder if it was a Harvey Davidson he was on?

  • Oh, and is anyone getting their blogs spammed by that shitbag BobHutton,posting links to his odious little articles about Christopher Hitchens?

  • barriejohn

    I don’t know, chrsbol, but I hope he eventually triumphs!!

  • Ryan

    Bloody hell, if they are going to arrest every guy who tells lies to sleep with a woman they’re going to end up with a slight overcrowding problem in the jails.

  • tony e

    This happens every night in Britain!
    Boy meets girl, boy gets drunk, girl gets drunk, both wake up and realise the sex god/godess they slept with the night before is actually pretty ropey looking in the morning.
    If it wasn’t for alcohol and dim lighting i’d still be a virgin!

  • Pete H

    Boy meets girl, boy gets drunk, girl gets drunk, both wake up and realise the sex god/godess they slept with the night before is actually pretty ropey looking in the morning.
    Ah, the good old beer goggles. 😀

  • Lurker111

    “Ah, the good old beer goggles.”
    Reminds me of the old saying, “Nothing looks as good on a woman as two drinks inside a man.” Can’t claim credit for the saying, but it’s old (several decades, anyway).

  • Harry

    Not to mention that everybody is pretty ropey the morning after a night on the piss.

  • MrMonist

    “So, what language did they speak to each other in?”
    All Israelis speek Hebrew whether Jewish or Arab…
    Utterly disgusting verdict but one that will definitely be overturned on appeal.

  • hissing sid

    in responce to gideon levy,
    If he’d been a jew claiming to be a muslim to sleep with a muslima he’d not of gone to jail. Too true, he’d of been torn apart by a muslim lynch mob. NO FILTHY KUFFAR can sleep with muslimas on pain of death! What a wanker…….

  • Broga

    Are not Jewish men circumcised and if this guy was not wouldn’t that give her a hint? Or are Muslims done as well? Haven’t been done myself so I have no personal experience. Protecting the sanctity of her body is a tough call. But throw in the “soul” and they are way beyond reason. But they were that anyway.
    Maybe she was too drunk or roused to care. But 18 months for a manufactured “rape” is diabolical. She wanted him; she got him.

  • barriejohn

    Many Muslims are circumscribed, as it is a cultural thing as well as religious in the East, but it is not a requirement of the faith. This is rather surprising when one considers the great regard that Muslims have for Abraham, who is considered one of its five greatest prophets!

  • From what I read, they didn’t even get round to his/her place but’had sex in a building nearby’ shortly after meeting. This woman then claims she “…thought the accused was a Jewish bachelor interested in a serious romantic relationship…”
    Eh?? And the court, in its wisdom (cough, cough), fell for this? Well, obviously not, it seems to be purely political, if not racist, as the accused claims.

  • eyal

    RELAX everyone,
    Israel has many faults but that is not one of them.
    a few years ago a JEWISH man was convicted of the same thing because he presented himself as an unmarried doctor, in truth he was married and worked in a factory.
    this may sound idiotic at first, but getting anything under false pretence is a crime. if I took money of you pretending to be, let’s say, a specialist in the stock market, you could sue me, right?
    when we choose our partners we are careful to know who they are. a handsome young man might not be so attractive if the women knew he was convicted of rape, for example.
    the women slept with those men because, well, they thought they are going to have a relationship with these men.
    And religion does play a huge difference, for many jews and for many Arabs, not to mention the war…

  • Wurble

    “Ah, the good old beer goggles.”
    Reminds me of the old saying, “Nothing looks as good on a woman as two drinks inside a man.” Can’t claim credit for the saying, but it’s old (several decades, anyway).
    My personal fave is “Beauty is in the eye of the beer holder”

  • barriejohn

    What about the fabled exchange between Winston Churchill and maybe Bessie Braddock, or Lady Astor?
    “Winston, you’re drunk.”
    “And you’re ugly, madam, but tomorrow I shall be sober!”
    “If you were my husband I’d put poison in your drink.”
    “And if I were your husband I’d drink it!”

  • Broga

    Chris. Certainly says something about Jewish women’s expectations of Jewish batchelors. Maybe wham, bam, thank you ma’m is par for the course. Wonder what these guys with the long hats and beards think of all this.

  • Jason Shields

    Her body’s a temple. One of the busier ones by the sound of it 😉

  • James Widdell

    We are not talking religion here, but of race or of nation. Not every Jew adheres to judaism, but is a Jew because he or she belongs to The Jewish Nation.

  • Alan Fitzpatrick

    Jesuusss help us rape! take responsibilty love it takes two to tango, of course it’ll probably be upheld as ”rape” in Israel it wouldn’t surprise me one bit.Was it ”rape” when you enjoyed it or did you just find out he wasn’t jewish when you went back for more.

  • Chuck Longstreth

    And then we in the USA ‘allow’ Israel to have nuclear weapons?! They may be only one very small step up from their Muslim brothers. What a bunch of schmucks! (I checked with wikipedia for schmuck)
    Up till now I thought they were sensible. (ok – the US of A is not always perfect – don’t rub it in)
    *****************
    I laugh: It is a bit sneaky to falsely claim that your meat is kosher.

  • Liz

    This wasn’t a racist sentence. He got 18 months because he brutally raped a mentally unstable and abused woman. http://www.mideastyouth.com/2010/09/05/israel-rape-by-deception-turns-out-to-be-brutal-rape-of-a-vulnerable-and-abused-woman/