Mad Pastor's Facebook presence vanishes after he proposes a register for atheists

Mad Pastor's Facebook presence vanishes after he proposes a register for atheists August 29, 2011

IF this was International Nutters week, top prize should surely go to Pastor Mike Stahl of The Living Water Church in Miramar, Florida, for a dotty idea he proposed on the internet yesterday.
Pastor Mike, as he likes to call himself, is a former police officer who has been:

Fundamentalist loon Mike Stahl

 Seriously considering forming a (Christian ) grassroots type of organization to be named The Christian National Registry of Atheists or something similar.
 I mean, think about it . There are already National Registrys (sic) for convicted sex offenders , ex-convicts , terrorist cells , hate groups like the KKK, skinheads , radical Islamists , etc.

Now comes the curious bit. When my attention was drawn to Pastor Mike’s lame, messy and badly-punctuated blog this morning, there was link on it to his Facebook page. From Facebook I learned that he’s an ex-cop – and while I was at it,  I grabbed a picture picture of him.
But when I went back to Facebook this afternoon to see what else I could learn about him, the page had vanished, and so had the link on the pastor’s blog.
Funny that.
Anyway, back to mad Mike’s idea.

 This type of “National Registry” would merely be for information purposes . To inform the public of KNOWN  (ie self-admitted) atheists …

Now , many (especially the atheists), may ask “Why do this, what’s the purpose ?” Duhhh , Mr Atheist , for the same purpose many States put the names and photos of convicted sex offenders and other ex-felons on the I-Net – to INFORM the public ! I mean , in the City of Miramar, Florida, where I live , the population is approx 109,000. My family and I would sure like to know how many of those 109,000 are ADMITTED atheists!
Perhaps we may actually know some. In which case we could begin to witness to them and warn them of the dangers of atheism. Or perhaps they are radical atheists , whose hearts are as hard as Pharaoh’s , in that case , if they are business owners , we would encourage all our Christian friends , as well as the various churches and their congregations NOT to patronize them as we would only be “feeding” Satan.

The lunatic concludes:

Frankly , I don’t see why anyone would oppose this idea – including the atheists themselves (unless of course , they’re actually ashamed of their atheist religion , and would prefer to stay in the ‘closet.‘ )

PS: The underscoring is mine.
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  • Guy Consitt

    pastorstahl@aol.com, we need to talk!

  • akbright

    I wonder what’s in the water down in Florida? Seems to produce some “unique” personalities.
    -I have no hesitation, either, to proudly say I am an atheist/freethinker!

  • Atheist4Life

    So this moron thinks we are just as bad as sex offenders, ex-convicts, terrorists, Islamic fundies and hate groups? What a moron, clearly he knows next to nothing about Atheism and showed that when he claimed Atheism is a religion. The only way Atheism can become a religion will be if the term of religion changes which won’t happen since it is the biggest industry in the world and let’s face it all religions have more then enough competition already and the last thing they need is more of it. I hope sane religious people will see there are more crazies in religion including their own then anything else. What will this loon think of next? A kill Atheists Bill? A kill non-Christians Bill? A Human Rights Supporter Bill?

  • Vin Rohm

    Personally, I would want a Christian registry so that we rational humans can avoid living next to such delusional characters and avoid patronizing their places of business or their services, as doing so would only serve to finance the infectious spread of their delusions to others.
    You can commit someone whose delusions may cause them to harm themselves or others….unless their particular delusion happens to be a popular religious group. Personally, I won’t feel safe from people like this guy until they are all in mental institutions where they truly belong.

  • Thoreau

    Not only is my heart as hard as Pharoah’s but my erection is like blue steel.
    Can I get a witness?

  • G Crumb

    Forgive me if I sound I like bit of a loon too, but I really object to the term ‘atheist’. There are a lot of things that I don’t believe in – tooth fairy, Santa, a flat earth, to name a few. All of them are equally non-existent. I prefer the term ‘rationalist’. It indicates someone who uses their brain and logic rather than relying on fairy stories.

  • Bubblecar

    Hmm, something tells me this creep’s name is already listed on his local neighbourhood registry of Batshit Crazy Assholes.

  • Ewan

    And this fat, brainless fuckwit, boys and girls, is where negative stereotypes about people from the south are born.

  • alb

    It comes as no surprise that the Nazis also set up a register of innocent people minding their own business.

  • Pastor Joke

    Surprise. He’s asking for money on his website. Tax free, presumably.

  • Daz

    Just be glad he’s an ex cop!

  • The last time I Pastor Stalh I was in a public toilet – but there was someone in there, doing his business, so I passed on to the next stall, minding my own.

  • AshDev

    Oh dear – I think Pastor Mike is on the offensive now.
    http://pastorstahl.blogspot.com/2011/08/atheists-arent-ashamed-of-being.html

  • Stonyground

    I suppose that if he got his way he might discover the law of unintended consequences. Richard Dawkins has been encouraging atheists to come out, no easy thing in places where those with their own imaginary friend want to boycott your business or possibly kill you. His problems could begin when he outs so many atheists that he shows that Christians are in fact a minority and politicians are suddenly falling over themselves to show how rational and godless they are.
    this issue is being discussed over at Pharygula.
    http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/2011/08/28/pastor-mike-has-a-plan/#comments

  • barriejohn

    A lot of Americans think like him. Just read the comments here!
    http://youtu.be/fNoh1dd_19I

  • David Anderson

    Ah, the good ol’ USA. Land of god, guns and dumasses.

  • Broga

    @This is about as good (bad) as it gets. This character goes way beyond having a closed mind. He is a vicious, ignorant fool. Anytime, and it often happens, that atheists are accused of being “aggressive” and “militant” they may remember that in terms of negative thoughts they are not on the same planet as this clown.

  • AgentCormac

    Can anybody find an email address for this fuckwit? (barriejohn, I’m sure you can where I’ve tried but failed.)
    I WANT him to have my address so he has an open invitation to come round to my house and debate why filling people’s heads up with lies is actually a form of abuse.

  • Broga

    Imagine the kind of treatment this foaming at the mouth nutter handed out as a police officer. How does someone as crazy as him become a police officer? I suppose he would like atheists to have a big A pinned to them or perhaps tatooed on their foreheads.
    He is, of course, beyond hope and entirely beyond the reach of common sense or reason.

  • barriejohn
  • barriejohn

    I haven’t been able to locate his email address anywhere, but I did note that on his blog (see AshDev’s comment) he is requesting donations!

  • Daz

    I love the very first comment:

    Vote Richard Dawkins for President and we’ll have a Marxist state!

    Kind of ignores the recently very highly publicised—by the Christian Right, no less—point that Dawkins was born non-American, so could never be POTUS if he wanted to. Eedjit!

  • zenon

    What a stupid person!
    Perhaps we should make a list of people that pretend to follow the teachings of antiquainted times and therby stall the progress of mankind, thinking that wisdom of some uneducated desert wanderers of thousands of years ago not only has value but should be followed, modify it to suit themselves and then still fail!
    Lol

  • barriejohn

    There is an Outlook Express link AND a photo on his profile!
    http://www.blogger.com/profile/10369574538444942811
    Favourite Books
    The (KJV) Bible…

  • gsfhgfh

    From
    “Evidently Pastor Mike thinks atheists are in the same category as members of the KKK or Nazi groups. Never mind the glaring fact he seems to miss…. that most members of the KKK and Nazi groups are CHRISTIANS.”

  • barriejohn

    Daz: This was the bit that got me –
    DON’T LET ATHEISM DESTROY OUR CHILDREN
    OR THEIR LOVE FOR GOD !!

    I can’t even begin to think of an adequate response to such lunacy!

  • cvncgg

    So, the guy who wants a registry based on non-belief is also po’d by the “libo nazis”? This guy study history much?

  • Daz

    barriejohn:

    I can’t even begin to think of an adequate response to such lunacy!

    Pointing and laughing ’til summat busts…?
    (I don’t destroy children, anyway. Why waste good food?)

  • Angela_K

    “….warn them of the dangers of atheism” Yes, I suppose hard facts backed up with verifiable evidence are dangerous if you are an ignorant, poorly educated xtain.

  • Paul

    That guy is an absolute dipshit. Why the fuck would he put up a picture of Richard Dawkins as an example of an atheist we should add to a NATIONAL atheist registry in the United-fucking States??

  • the antithesis

    This isn’t a bad idea. Maybe we should have a christian national registry. After all, we already have a registry for convicted sex offenders , ex-convicts , terrorist cells , hate groups like the KKK, skinheads , radical Islamists , etc. Ands since there are more christians in prison than atheists, it only makes sense to keep a record of the christians who might be living near your home, making eyes at your children, the dirty butt nuggets.

  • Nicki

    This actually scares me. The nazi’s started that way, by identifying the jewish and jewish sympathizers among them. I’m from Florida. We’re still lagging behind Texas in idiots but closing fast.

  • This has to be one of my favourite Freethinker stories of 2011 so far. Words almost fail me at this man’s cretinous comparisons, mush-brained self-importance and farcical boogeyman mentality… yet at the same time his proposal is so off-the-wall that there is nothing to get at all worked up over, just laughter to be had 🙂
    By the way, I wasn’t away that ‘skinheads’ was a hate group (runs fingers over scalp, each hair about quarter of an inch long).

  • mikespeir

    Yeah, I’ll volunteer for the registry. BTW, this means they’ll have to agree upon a definition of “atheist.” Then, how many of us can they prove fit the definition?

  • “I wonder what’s in the water down in Florida?”..It’s their living water, you know, the stuff the idiots ministery is named after. What is “Living Water”? The xians seem to love it. I think Ken Ham’s shoddy little outfit has a similar name, or is it Ray Comfort’s? I get them mixed up. It’s sort of self contradictory. Like water has a life as we know it, sort of thing happening. The xians are good at saying things and inventing slogans that sound really good, but on reflection are outright lies. One good example is what they call their “good news”, you know the good news that sets you up for a life of guilt, hate filled death worship and basing your life around dogmas invented by nomadic bronze-age goat herders. Nothing like a good solid foundation.

  • Mike de Fleuriot

    For what it’s worth, this is the poor woman that is married to him.
    http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001983609394

  • Buffy

    That is one seriously deranged and potentially dangerous individual.

  • Another ignorant xian fascist; atheists with hearts as hard as Pharaoh’s…again, another xian bleating and braying bible characters and failing to read that it was actually GOD himself who hardened Pharaoh’s heart…

  • Barry Duke

    Awwww, Mike, I note poor Gerri only has four friends, one of whom is called Twitty. Perhaps we should all add her as a friend and send her messages of sympathy. Can’t be easy being married to the biggest numpty in Florida.

  • gsw

    While I do not live in America (yet), I am more worried about the persistent – and ignorant – idea that atheists worship satan.
    Perhaps, instead of rationalists or brights, we should start referring to ourselves as non-worshippers.
    Probably won’t help much against nuts like this one, but a few may realise that someone who ‘does not worship’ cannot be assumed to worship satan. When asked I usually reply that I am ‘not superstitious’.
    p.s. that yet – has you been to Europe lately?

  • The Woggler

    While I am happy to identify myself as an Atheist/Nonbeliever/Godless Heathen, I’d be very uncomfortable signing up to Pasta Mike’s list. History makes it very clear what Nazis like to do with such lists. The problem is, with the Tea-Leafers on the ascendancy in America, people like Pasta Mike might well be granted real power and influence.

  • Ex Patriot

    I jist don’t know how to respond to this, I just wish the rational thinking people in the country would get the publicity an asshat like this gets

  • Stuart H.

    Dunno why this loon needs a registry of atheists. In the US, I’d have thought the ability to walk without scraping your knuckles on the ground was a dead giveaway.

  • Randy

    Seems the Pasta Mike has his personal list started and will only send them to fellow xtians after proof of their beliefs. Here’s his link to the latest on this dimwit.
    http://pastorstahl.blogspot.com/2011/08/free-atheist-e-mail-addressesfor.html

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  • Stonyground

    Our computor system at work has a nanny programme. Although it lets through what could be described as soft porn, it occasionally bans me from a specific comment thread at the Freethinker blog, giving a ‘you have attempted to access a restricted website’ message. I can access the main post but not the comments and, in this case, only on this post, I can access the comments on all of the others. Has anyone got any idea what is setting it off?

  • Stonyground

    “I suppose he would like atheists to have a big A pinned to them or perhaps tatooed on their foreheads.”
    I believe that Chuck Norris has already suggested the tattooed forehead thing.

  • ElveeKaye

    Since Christian preachers are the ones raping children, I think THEY are the ones who should be on a national registry. You become a pastor, priest, minister, deacon, bishop, whatever, your name should immediately be entered on the list–just in case the cops need to track you down. Maybe this would help cut down on child abuse by church authorities. What do you think, Pastor Mike? Would you be willing to take part in such a worthy cause?

  • barriejohn

    Stonyground: There was a lot of debate over that comment by yet another “washed-up B movie actor”.
    http://www.rationalresponders.com/forum/the_rational_response_squad_radio_show/general_conversation_introductions_and_humor/9294

  • “Duhhh , Mr Atheist , for the same purpose many States put the names and photos of convicted sex offenders and other ex-felons”
    Seems to be more than a few sex offenders popping up in the ranks of believers these days ……are they to be registered as well?

  • Timothy Starship

    I was reading Pastor Mike’s blog this morning. I went to check it just now and it is private except for invited readers only. HILARIOUS! what an ass.

  • The Woggler

    I went onto Pasta Mike’s blog. He writes it exactly how I imagine a certain Mr Hitler would have written a blog. All those words and phrases in a larger font, in bold and underlined. The man has serious anger management issues. Either that, or he’s a cretin.

  • AgentCormac

    Thanks for finding his email address, barriejohn. I’m about to send him a suitably derogatory note.

  • barriejohn

    You’re right, Timothy.
    http://pastorstahl.blogspot.com/
    It doesn’t look like you have been invited to read this blog. If you think this is a mistake, you might want to contact the blog author and request an invitation.

    Being of a suspicious mind, I went to his profile, and his email address appears to have disappeared as well!

  • Aye, atheists are as bad as the klan, Mike. We all meet up in a cow field with fuckin bedsheets on our heads and give eachother cool sounding titles. I’m a Master Dragon Wizard, pleased to meet you. Because that’s what rational people do.
    Round ’em all up Mike, burn the bodies, salt the earth! Then shite yourself two days later when you realise you just dropped the collective IQ in the US by 30 points!
    Seriously, I know you want to be famous and popular with your outlandish statements (and talk is cheap on the internet), but did you never think of trying to sort out all the real issues in the world before getting round to the extermination of people who enjoy their lie in on a sunday?
    You’re a public fucking figure at least in your community, you could be flapping your gums to encourage your congregation to do good things instead of fighting imaginary enemies, what the hell is wrong with you?
    For what its worth, making your posts private when you’ve just tried to incite some kind of war against one in ten of your countrymen looks sinister as hell. Ironically you’ve probably just been put on a watchlist for being a wacko, not that I’d approve, I think you’re full of mad dog’s shite.
    Now if you’ll excuse me, I have to put burning darwin fish on some poor bastards lawn because that’s the kind of monster I am.

  • Reginald Selkirk

    I am shocked to see that Pastor Mike has several tattoos, in clear defiance of the word of God:
    Leviticus 19:28 Ye shall not make any cuttings in your flesh for the dead, nor print any marks upon you: I am the LORD.
    I would think that good Christian parents would want a registry of people who defy the LORD by marking their flesh, in order that they might keep their children away from the influence of such unGodly folk.

  • Reginald Selkirk

    ElveeKaye: Since Christian preachers are the ones raping children…
    In fairness, there are probably a few pedophiles out there who are atheist as well.
    However, I don’t think anyone puts an atheist in a special position of authority over children merely because they are an atheist, and there has been no organized cover-up and justice-denial program by any large atheist organization as there has been with the Holy Roman Catholic Church.

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  • Wandapec

    I don’t live in the States but if I did – I would sign up on the register right away. He probably hasn’t thought this through – the administration of the registry is going to be massive – it is essentially going to be a birth registry seeing that anyone born would be atheist until they get indoctrinated into the religion of their parents!

  • Aren’t Christians filed into a registry of some sort when they’re baptized? Perhaps the pastor doesn’t understand what it means to have no affiliation with a religious ideology because he thinks atheism is some sort of religious ideology.

  • Listing people’s names is the first step in discriminating against them. How else can you tell people to boycott the local atheist, not hire him because he’s on the Atheist List, or refuse her some kind of service, hire someone for a job.
    I have no issue making it publicly known that I am an Evangelical Atheist who practices secular Buddhism. However, I do resent being added to some kind of list which this man himself admits is similar to a list of sex offenders or KKK members!
    Now that this idiot has been noticed by Atheists he goes and hides. Hah! Go to your imaginary Hell, Pastor Mike, and stay there.

  • Bob Beecher

    Well, his blog now says that there will be no list, that it was all done as a joke.
    Joke?
    And he wonders why he’s getting hate email from everyone? He’s gotten SO much that he’s even posted a “warning” to everyone that copies of emails will be turned over . . .
    What a moron.
    Since he’s already made the comparison to sex offenders and child molesters, perhaps we should create a registry of youth pastors, bible camp administrators, and so on. After all, THEY seem to have something in common with the aforementioned criminals.

  • Robert Tobin

    His “LORD” spake unto him.

  • Pastor Mike should know that it was his buddy YHWH who hardened Pharoah’s heart, just so he could screw with him.

  • Mary

    I wonder where vanishing former officer, now Pastor Mike, will pop up next; the 700 club?, a Catholic Archdiocese, an overseas church?
    He’s definately ordination material for many sick religious entities out there.
    Makes me wonder what his pd reports were like too when he was an officer with the duty to protect and to serve the public.

  • Luce

    I saw this a few days ago on PZ Myer’s “Pharyngula” blog. As I said over there, I think something like this could be fantastic for the USA, where I still find it hard to believe that so many people in an otherwise sophisticated and advanced culture cannot be open about their lack of religious conviction. The UK is ACTUALLY a christian country (like, officially, not just the way the nutters like to think the US is) but we’re more secular over here I think – although islam’s getting worryingly powerful. Having said that, even though I never go to church and am openly scathing about religion, people still assume I’m agnostic – because that’s the inoffensive, respectful position I guess – and can be quite shocked when I correct them by saying that no, I’m actually an atheist and anti-theist.
    Anyway, I think one of the biggest factors holding back freedom from religion in the USA is that atheists are so often presented and perceived to be a tiny, freakish minority. As we saw with the Damien Fowler saga, news like this can travel the world very quickly, and I think if a register like this was actually started the good “Pastor” (is there any qualification required for that title, by the way?) would probably find himself inundated by millions of requests ASKING for inclusion on it. I can even see another register being started by an atheist group. Can you imagine how earth-shattering it would be in the US if millions of atheists (I think there are supposed to be around 30 million over there, aren’t there, and I wonder how many more there are who are not yet “out”?) stood up to be counted? I think it would devastate all the god-botherers who like to think they command the majority, and encourage potentially millions of closet atheists – many of whom may have thought they were the only one, or that there was something wrong with them as I did in my time – to stand up and be counted. I think it could be amazing!

  • Maus

    Unfortunately, his blog is for those “invited” to read, only. 🙁