‘Satanic' pregnancy-test Virgin billboard vandalised by Catholic zealot in NZ

‘Satanic' pregnancy-test Virgin billboard vandalised by Catholic zealot in NZ December 19, 2011

ARTHUR Skinner, a member of a splinter Catholic outfit in New Zealand, is unrepentant over his slashing of a billboard depicting a shocked-looking Virgin Mary clutching a positive pregnancy test.

The scissor-wielding lunatic – of the Catholic Action Group – removed a section of the poster at the weekend … then took part in a 100-strong prayer service outside the St Matthew-in-the-City Anglican church, which was responsible for the billboard.
He said he would destroy the poster again if it was replaced.

This is Satanic, this is the ultimate Satanic attack, when Lucifer attacks his worst enemy, the Blessed Virgin. This particular church – so called – is run by a gay, feminist-type lobby. They claim to be Christian and yet they put up a blasphemous image of the Blessed Virgin, attacking her virginity and the fact that she was the mother of Christ, the God-Man.

The poster after a Catholic nutter vandalised it
Mr Skinner accused the Anglican Church more generally of being:

Basically heretics. There’s only one faith – The Roman Catholic Apostolic Faith – because we go right back in our papal line to Christ. All the other sects and cults are in fact man-made. It doesn’t mean we condemn the individuals in them, we simply condemn their teaching.

He said those responsible for the poster would “certainly burn in hell” if they did not repent.
St Matthew’s reverend Glynn Cardy said that the motivation for the poster was to get people to think about the social circumstances Mary faced when she found out she was having a child.
This is not the first time St Matthew’s has caused controversy with its billboards. Two years ago, it displayed a poster showing Mary and Joseph in bed with the caption:

Poor Joseph. God was a hard act to follow.

The poster provoked so much anger it was defaced several times.
Catholic Church spokeswoman Lyndsay Freer Catholic Action Group had “absolutely nothing” to do with the mainstream Catholic Church.

I have been critical of the poster, but the last thing we would want to do would be anything destructive.

Hat tip: Remigius and BarrieJohn (for original billboard story)

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  • Lazy Susan

    What exactly was the blasphemy? I can’t see anything wrong with this poster. In fact it looks quite beautiful and also thought-provoking. There’s loads of annunciation imagery, and I don’t suppose much of it is historically accurate.
    Oh well, god spoke to another nut job, I guess.

  • Lazy Susan

    … for example, here’s one with a book. That’s a bound book, which did not arrive until several centuries later.

  • Daz

    When is the Catholics going to finally admit they’re polytheistic? They pray as much to the saints and the virgin Mary just as to the one three erm, three-in-one god.

  • Daz

    “When is the Catholics”? blimey.
    I edited from ‘is the the RCC’ to ‘are Catholics.’ But not very well.

  • Nathan

    Funny how he can be close to the truth but still ignorant. “Every other cult is man made” very true but tell me again how that doesn’t apply to your cult Mr Skinner

  • tony e

    “All the other sects and cults are in fact man-made.” – Time to look in the mirror I think.

  • David Anderson

    “After discovering that she is pregnant, Mary sits pondering what story she can invent to fool the dozy carpenter that she is about to marry.”
    First Book of Bloody Good Excuses.

  • No Name

    @David Anderson Look, I have no problem with atheism or atheists. If you don’t believe in God, that’s your right and I won’t make fun of that. But what I don’t like is calling religious people ‘deranged’ or ‘retarded’. Everyone is entitled to their personal opinionjust don’t crack mean-spirited jokes like “After discovering that she is pregnant, Mary sits pondering what story she can invent to fool the dozy carpenter that she is about to marry”. Stop being mean to religious people and saying that they should be forced into hiding or converted to atheism. Even if religion never existed, we would still be living in a troubled world full of conflict and suffering. How will converting everyone to atheism solve the economic crisis, or what i think is our biggest problem today, Global Warming.

  • barriejohn

    These religiots are, indeed, deranged:
    This is Satanic, this is the ultimate Satanic attack, when Lucifer attacks his worst enemy, the Blessed Virgin.
    What a load of cobblers! The poster is hilarious, however, as is this:

  • ZombieHunter

    @ no name
    It was a joke, doesn’t this god of yours have a sense of humour??
    “In the beginning there was nothing and god said “LET THERE BE LIGHT”, there was stil nothing you could just see it better”

  • barriejohn
  • David Anderson

    No Name:
    1. I don’t care if you have or don’t have a problem with atheism or atheists.
    2. I don’t care if you make fun of the fact I don’t believe in God.
    3. I didn’t call religious people “deranged” or “retarded”. What I do think they are is delusional and sometimes dangerous.
    4. If everyone is entitled to their personal opinion, my joke demonstrates my opinion of religion.
    5. I did not say that religious people should be forced into hiding or that they should convert to atheism. Interesting you make no mention of the atheists that are forced into hiding from religious zealots.
    6. Without religion there would still be conflict and suffering but a little research will show you where and how religion is the cause of it.
    7. Your last comments about the economic crisis and global warming make no sense
    Didn’t you have a little chuckle a the joke though?

  • Cly

    Devils, Holy Virgins, Satan, witchcraft. Goodness me! I’m both amused by this moron and full of pity for him.

  • jonathan

    I agree, the poster is thought provoking and supports my suspicion that Mary may have been raped. I did get a letter today from Christian Concern inviting me to send my bank details to regularly support their one million turnover in legal pursuits 2012. Is this the real heart of the Christmas Message? Or a confused interpretation of Isaiah’s “A young women shall conceive” wrongly interpreted to “virgin”? – leading to the doctrine of immaculate conception – I must ask an Orthodox Jew for their ideas which I’m sure are, at odds, with the schismatic Christian Church.

  • Daz

    Ask a thousand men what they would think if their wife said to them “I’m preggers, darling, but it’s okay: It’s God’s!” I’d be very surprised if any of them wouldn’t assume she was (i) lying, and (ii) treating him like a bloody idiot, thinking he’d believe her. And I include devout Christian husbands.
    Your capacity for self indulgent faux-persecution really does seem to know no bounds. If you can’t take a joke, don’t believe such laughable things.

  • Paul M

    To quote the late great Hitchens “All we can be certain of is who didn’t get Mary pregnant”.

  • Matt

    Barriejohn, aside from the point you were actually making with your crayon link…are we supposed to be able to actually see the face of jesus in this crayon? Because, all I can see is yellow on blue. Where on the crayon is Jesus?

  • Angela_K

    Those wonderful stupid death cults that won’t allow women to control their own bodies; they are indeed very wrong in the head.
    @no name. How do you expect any rational and reasonable person to respect the preposterous, childish and dangerous beliefs of the religious. You religious types have had a couple of thousand years to present evidence to support your claims but have failed to do so and never shall because there is none.

  • barriejohn

    Matt: I think one needs the “eye of faith”!

  • AgentCormac

    Oh, FFS! Now christians are squealing that they are being persecuted by…. erm, christians.
    And somewhat OT, did anybody listen to Chris Evans on Radio 2 this morning? Not only has he managed to surreptitiously introduce his own version of Thought For The Day with some “deranged” or “retarded” religiot being given free rein to spout their superstitious twaddle on prime-time radio every morning, but today Evans also praised the Bishop of York for making a thinly-veiled attack on atheism. How does the BBC allow this kind of thing to happen? If one of their DJs invited secularists on to their show and then openly criticised christianity, I’m sure there’d be feathers flying.

  • barriejohn

    Things are getting worse at the BBC, AgentCormac. This is unbelievable:
    (I could never stand Chris Evans anyway!)

  • barriejohn

    Evans seems to have a “thing” about the archbishop:

  • Graham Martin-Royle

    I just love the way they all believe that theirs is the only version of the truth.
    1/Get a sense of humour.
    2/Until you have the guts to post under your real name, I won’t take any notice of anything you say.

  • tony e

    @David Anderson,
    Probably the greatest stitch up in mythology.
    Mary states that she is pregnant to “an invisible bloke who lives in the sky.” Gullible Joseph accepts this, and to rub the salt into the would, apparently she remained a ‘perpetual virgin’ after this as well. So not only was he bringing up another blokes kid, but apparently getting no sex from Mary either. Not the brightest lamp in Bethlehem.
    It would be interesting to see how much god owes Mary in Child Support back payments.

  • DC78

    @no name.
    Christopher Hitches, “Which is more likely, that the whole natural order is suspended, or that a Jewish minx should tell a lie?”

  • john c

    @ no name. if the whole world converted to atheism, it would be a step in the right direction, we would lose the likes of (p)Rick Perry,mr national prayer day,who thinks praying is going to make it rain, hence still denies global warming , and gain people who would take responsibility for their actions, instead of blaming the “forces of evil”,and actualy initiate action, rather than trusting their sky fairy to put things to rights.Mr Cameron might actualy look at the social causes for the riots, rather than trying to push the population back to the dark ages, hoping the fear of helfire might keep them subservient.The catholic church would not still be promoting aids,poverty traps and womwns suffering.The wtc might still be standing, tens of thousands of lives would not of been lost fighting the war on terror.
    One thing is certain, we would not be all running around acting in an inhuman manner, because its not religion that stops you doing that, its an inate social instinct.
    One thing that would still go on, Infidelity, Its beginings, and the cover stories women come up with to explain it all away, go back at least 2000 years, as the prety picture shows.Pity that dumb bitch couldn’t of stuck with the rape excuse,an iliterate carpenter wouldnt of needed a complex story.

  • Marky Mark

    No Name…why don’t you go back to bombing abortion clinics since you see no wrong in that, considering your statement that you are the persecuted one. Or go lobby against birth control sine you are persecuted so much. Or throw rocks and bottles at gay people since you have to hide in the basement…talk about a people who have to hide because of people like you, it is them.
    What agnostics and atheists should do is nail a copy of “The Age of Reason” by Thomas Pain to your church doors to remind you that the USA was not biased on Christian religion, but the freedom to believe in any religion…or to not believe in any at all.
    As for the melted thing from the link that was suppose to be an image of Jesus…looks about right, an image of nothing.

  • AngieRS

    Actually, no name, pretty much 1-7 from David Anderson. Get a grip, dear, get a grip.

  • Ex Patriot

    If I may add 2cents worth. I will say this if Mary even existed she most likely got knocked up either selling herself for a few sheckles to buy bread or she was raped by a Roman, either way himself was half Jewish and half Roman. she was as much virgin as I am and I have been married 3 times,my plus my affairs.

  • barriejohn

    Maybe not even Jewish, ExPatriot!

  • barriejohn

    I meant to say “not even half-Jewish”, of course!

  • Stonyground

    The stories regarding the parentage and birth of Jesus are just that, stories. The nativity story that we all know is a blend of two seperate and contradictory accounts and both accounts take elements from the birth narratives of earlier gods. I believe that the notion that Mary stayed a perpetual virgin is a rather silly Catholic invention. I am pretty sure that the NT mentioned that Jesus had brothers and sisters, Jesus wouldn’t be very unique if all of them were ‘of the Holy Spirit’ would he?
    @Graham Martin-Royle
    Do you mean to say that you will disregard anything that I write because I don’t use my real name? I don’t think that putting your real name about on the internet is very wise, so I don’t. I’m not sure that it is that important that you know the real identity of people you never meet, I have been posting here for a long time so in a sense people here know me. Stonyground is the only name that I use when posting, I don’t sneak in something controversial using another name or anything. I would admit that posting as ‘No Name’ makes it look as though he is hiding something though.

  • Great Satan

    I remember going on a demo many moons ago when the organisers rather unfortunately invited a speaker from the odious Nation of Islam to say his piece, he informed us all that as the bible stated that as Jesus’s hair was “like lambswool” it was Afro, and that as “his skin was like burnished copper” he was black (he also told us that both the pyramids and Stonehenge were built by black Africans !…) ; this just means that the Virgin Mary was simply plied with wacky-baccy by a passing Rastafarian who as a result managed to get inside her knickers ! – and the husband believed she was impregnated by God – would you Adam + Eve it !, theres’ one born every minute !

  • remigius

    jonathan & Ex Patriot. These claims that the Virgin Mandy was raped seem a tad iffy. The god that supposedly got her up the chuff did actually send a faerie to annuncicate the rumpy beforehand. So that makes it OK.
    However if it were tried under English law he may need a better defence.
    Stonyground. I always assumed Graham Martin-Royle was a pseudonym.

  • remigius

    No Name. The only part of your comment that makes any sense is the bit about global warming. And that doesn’t even make sense.

  • barriejohn

    No Nativity or Virgin Birth in “Mark’s Gospel”, which is generally acknowledged to be the earliest. These stories are later embellishments, added by “Matthew” and “Luke” to make the life of Jesus seem more “miraculous”.

  • No Name

    My point about Global Warming was that you spend so much time ranting about religion that you ignore all of the other problems in the world. Just saying.
    About the Blessed Virgin, I think that neither she nor Joseph thought that Jesus was divine. That story was made up after the fact. Jesus was simply the Chosen Prophet of Our Almighty Lord the Higgs Boson particle, He who has just been glimpsed by the Wise and Venerable Prophets of the Holy City of CERN. The Gospel authors made up all that nonsense about the Virgin Birth.
    By the way, how are the beliefs of the religious childish and preposterous? Dangerous I can get, but not not Childish and/or preposterous.
    That part about forcing everyone to convert to atheism was a reference to Johann Hari, more specifically an article on ex-Muslims that he published back in 2007. I never said that Christians were being persecuted by atheists.
    Also, without religion, some of the greatest works of art in history would never have existed. I don’t think I can live in a world without Blake or the Sistine Chapel. And the Holocaust still would have happened.
    I award you no points, and may Higgs Boson grant you peace.

  • AngieRS

    Surely, no name, if there were no religion, there would be no Jews and hence no Holocaust. As for the Sistine chapel and Blake, what you don’t know, you don’t miss.

  • Stonyground

    “How are the beliefs of the religious childish and/or preposterous?”
    Talking animals, magic fruit trees, dead people coming back to life (a regular occurrence throughout the Bible and yet the resurrection is supposed to be somehow unique). The belief in a loving and benevolent god, despite the fact that his own revelation describes him as a sadistic and callous monster. The claims in the New Testament that the prophets of the Old Testament predicted the life of Jesus when, If you actually look the relevant passages up, what you find is irrelevant verses taken clumsily out of context. A god who claims to have created the entire universe but seems to think that it resembles a three tier wedding cake with a dome over it. Noah’s Ark FFS. That story pretty much defines childish and preposterous, especially the part where Noah builds an altar and starts sacrificing endangered species as burnt offerings to say “Thankyou Lord for that unprecedented natural disaster thou hast bestowed unto me”.
    I suggest that you read the whole Bible from cover to cover. It is a challenge because it is a long book and not exactly a page-turner either but you will at least grow to appreciate just how childish and preposterous it is.

  • Jim Boomba

    EX Patriot
    His name wasn’t Jesus either it was Bwian no no no no Brian sir.

  • Hitchens’apprentice

    Could be that the painting is an admission of guilt…… I’ve always suspected that the truth of Geebus’ birth was wrongly named. In reality, it was the immaculate DECEPTION.

  • barriejohn

    The Immaculate Conception does not refer to Jesus: his was the Virgin Birth. The Immaculate Conception refers to the fact that, as was befitting of her role as the “Mother of God”, Mary was actually born without the stain of Original Sin. (She also managed to get through her entire life without entertaining so much as the flicker of an evil thought!) The Assumption refers to the fact that she was magically taken up into Heaven, body and soul, at the end of her life, and did not taste of death. All of this has been the invention of the Catholic Church down through the ages, and is not even hinted at in the Bible!

  • barriejohn

    There seems no limit to what the human mind can come up with in its imaginings:
    (Warning: May give rise to extreme nausea, and not suitable for those of a nervous disposition!)

  • remigius

    No Name. And the Holocaust still would have happened.
    Yeah. That’s right cos Hitler was an atheist.
    God wins again!

  • tony e

    No Name,
    So, what you are saying is Mary liked a bit of cock?

  • Graham Martin-Royle

    @Stonyground: That comment wasn’t aimed at you, noname is a troll as far as I’m concerned so i’m not taking him seriously.
    @Remigius: That’s the name on my birth certificate, driving licence, passport, etc. It’s not a pseudonym.
    Having thought about this person some more (the catholic religiot, not noname) the more concerned I am. His response is totally OTT when you think about it. So he’s upset, so he’s offended, so he thinks it’s blasphemous, so what? He’s just one step away from the muslim fundamentalist who not only threatens anyone who upsets him but is willing to kill anyone who upsets him. If he’s not stopped, will that be the next step for this moron?

  • Daz

    My point about Global Warming was that you spend so much time ranting about religion that you ignore all of the other problems in the world. Just saying.

    How do you know we don’t? The subject of this particular website happens to be atheism and the damage to society done by religion. Where religion provides an excuse for AGW-denial, it will be discussed here, but the primary focus would be the denial, not AGW.

    The Gospel authors made up all that nonsense about the Virgin Birth.

    Then why did you get all steamed up about a corny old joke regarding it? Make yer mind up, matey.

    By the way, how are the beliefs of the religious childish and preposterous

    How about thinking they’re in daily communication with the creator of the whole damned universe, who changes his/her/its entire plan just to let their sports-team win, or provide them with the cash for a weekend break, or … you get the picture. Or how about the denial of mountains of evidence in favour of a 2,000 old book based on the myths, prejudices and legends of a few tribes of scientifically-illiterate goat-herders and further edited by a bunch of equally prejudiced Roman imperialists?
    By the way, you’re aware that ‘god particle’ is just a semi-humorous nickname, right?

  • barriejohn

    Can’t you people recognize a troll when you come across one? (GMR excepted!)

  • john c

    Obviously a troll, posting religious waffle on an atheist site, but hey,riddicule and flaming is fun,and when the target willingly walks into the sights….

  • barriejohn

    I get a bit pissed off when people with little intelligence and even less to say can so easily derail a thread. I think they’re best ignored myself.

  • barriejohn

    PS The point about atheists somehow ignoring “Global Warming” is particularly crass when you consider that this thread is about some Christians in New Zealand squabbling over a poster about The Virgin Mary!

  • AgentCormac

    Just been looking at the Mary Mother of God site you linked to earlier. I love the opening line, “Mary’s chief glory is in her nothingness…” WTF?!
    Not quite sure how nothingness equates to glory, but then it seems to me that little of what people are prepared to write and believe about christianity makes any sense.

  • Stonyground

    Should we be making a distinction between a troll and a chew toy? I think that this latest visitor falls into the latter category.