Roy Moore: 'Liberals are out to silence conservative Christians'

Roy Moore: 'Liberals are out to silence conservative Christians' November 12, 2017

Hop across to Reddit Atheism and you will find no fewer than seven links on its front page to reports about Roy Moore, the Alabama Republican nominee for the US Senate who was recently exposed as a hebephile.
Clearly the revelations about Moore’s alleged interest in pubescent girls when he was in his 30s has become a major flashpoint, and for this he blames America’s “liberal media”.
According to a report in the Christian Post yesterday, the unhinged Moore lashed out in a series of tweets:

The Obama-Clinton Machine’s liberal media lapdogs just launched the most vicious and nasty round of attacks against me I’ve EVER faced! We are are in the midst of a spiritual battle with those who want to silence our message.
The forces of evil will lie, cheat, steal – even inflict physical harm – if they believe it will silence and shut up Christian conservatives like you and me.

He added:

I believe you and I have a duty to stand up and fight back against the forces of evil waging an all-out war on our conservative values! Our nation is at a crossroads right now – both spiritually and politically.
Our children and grandchildren’s futures are on the line. So rest assured — I will NEVER GIVE UP the fight.

The Washington Post reported on Thursday that several women have come forward accusing Moore, now 70, of making sexual advances on them when they were teenagers and he was in his 30s.
One Alabama woman, Leigh Corfman, explained in the report that she was 14 years old when Moore, a 32-year-old assistant district attorney, pursued her and made sexual advances.
Three other women have also come forward, alleging Moore attempted to date them when they were between the ages of 16 and 18 and he was in his early 30s, though they clarified that he did not force them into any sort of sexual contact.
A number of top Republican politicians have argued that if the allegations are true, Moore will not be fit for office.
White House Press Secretary Sarah Sanders told reporters:

Like most Americans, the President believes we cannot allow a mere allegation, in this case one from many years ago, to destroy a person’s life.
However, the President also believes that if these allegations are true, Judge Moore will do the right thing and step aside.

Arizona Senator and former GOP presidential nominee John McCain said on Twitter:

The allegations against Roy Moore are deeply disturbing and disqualifying. He should immediately step aside and allow the people of Alabama to elect a candidate they can be proud of.

Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell similarly stated:

If these allegations are true, he must step aside.

Moore, who was ousted twice as the state’s top judge, once for refusing a court order to remove a Ten Commandments monument from the courthouse, and then a second time for defying the 2015 Supreme Court decision to legalise gay marriage, retained the backing of some of his supporters in the midst of the latest scandal.

Alabama State Auditor Jim Zeigler, above, said Moore was “clean as a hound’s tooth” and pointed to relationships between adults and teenagers in the Bible in an interview with The Washington Examiner.

Take the Bible. Zachariah and Elizabeth for instance. Zachariah was extremely old to marry Elizabeth and they became the parents of John the Baptist. Also take Joseph and Mary. Mary was a teenager and Joseph was an adult carpenter. They became parents of Jesus.

Under the headline “When Christians cite the Bible to defend child molestation we’ve reached the bottom of the American/evangelical slide to hell”, blogger Frank Schaeffer wrote:

The virgin birth didn’t happen, apparently. This is news that most evangelicals might find alarming. If Joseph was the baby’s father, there goes 2000 years of Christian doctrine.
Odd to find Trump/Moore evangelicals are all secretly Unitarians. Only the Unitarians I know don’t coddle child molesters.

Meanwhile, it’s reported here that nearly 40 percent of Alabama evangelicals say in a new poll that they are more likely to vote for GOP Senate candidate Roy Moore after allegations of sexual misconduct arose against him.

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  • Broga

    Moore and his supporting evangelicals have no shame and lack any sense of what constitutes moral and decent behaviour. Their hard line evangelical beliefs are there to serve a purpose. And that purpose is to provide a justification for the kind of behaviour from which any civilised person would recoil. As is often the case with posturing Christians sex, and their warped sexual needs, underpins their faith.
    They should be shunned.

  • Marcus

    Comment under the Christian Post report: “We have become like Rome throwing Christians to the lions …”
    Alas, so few lions, so many Christians.

  • 1859

    Moore says he will always fight the ‘evil’ liberal agenda?
    So stating the truth is now ‘evil’? Stating the truth about his disgusting, adult behaviour is now ‘evil’? This guy seems able to transform guilt into innocence – like taking a white rabbit from a hat. Fool is he that can stand on his head and accuse the world of being upside down.

  • AgentCormac

    ‘Also take Joseph and Mary. Mary was a teenager and Joseph was an adult carpenter. They became parents of Jesus.’
    So, Joseph was in a relationship with an underage child? Really? I didn’t know that. And come to think of it, where in the bible does it say how old Mary and Joseph were? Anyway, wasn’t it supposed to be gawd who got Mary pregnant in the first place? Either way, Mr Deity, I think we’re looking at the kind of charges that would make Harvey Weinstein look like everyone’s favourite benevolent uncle.

  • Laura Roberts

    As Bill Maher rightly pointed out: American liberals arrest accused child molesters; conservatives elect them.

  • Gill Kerry

    Clean as a hounds tooth? A dirty dog then. (With apologies to 4legged gogs everywhere)

  • gedediah

    That revolting man can’t be procecuted due to the US statue of limitations provisions. It wouldn’t be the case in the UK where there’s no linit on criminal offences.

  • David Anderson

    “However, the President also believes that if these allegations are true, Judge Moore will do the right thing and step aside.”
    Take your own advice president fart.

  • sailor1031

    It is rightly pointed out that these are only allegations that may never be proved, especially in a “she said/he said” case without much if any other evidence. Things look much different after forty years and memories aren’t that reliable and I’d bet that Moore has convinced himself that none of this ever happened.
    What I find interesting is the number of republicans who are against him. Can the evangelical stranglehold be about to be loosened?
    @AC: technically Joseph, if he ever existed, was never the father of Jesus.

  • Italian Scallion

    Have you ever noticed that it is always the self righteous Christians who do this sort of thing? You don’t see atheists molesting children. Then they quote the Bible. As I’ve said before, the Bible is nothing more than a bunch of stories written by shepherds when they weren’t having sex with sheep.

  • John the Drunkard

    I don’t recall any indication of the ages of Mary and Joseph in any of the gospels. As always with Amurkun Xtians, biblical authority is minted to order.

  • The fact remains that many people who read their Bibles and know their history is that “God’s word” does indeed fail to condemn child sex abuse in marriage. There are condemnations of bestiality and adultery and gay sex and no mention of the respect due to the sexual innocence of a child. Those cultures did accept men having sex with girls whose bodies were not ready for sex or having babies. There are several clues in the Bible that a man is allowed to molest the child he “marries.” Jesus reinforced these doctrines by saying that a woman cannot divorce her husband or she becomes an adulteress if she weds another. That was virtually calling for her murder for the Jewish God had decreed death by stoning for adulteresses. (And Jesus made no attempt to do away with stoning in his ministry. The adulteress who was brought to him for stoning was brought to him as a test but even then he said she should be stoned but only by worthy accusers. He did not stone her for it was not his place and it was never done by one person. And it was a test anyway.) The fact remains that these women were forced into marriage, were too young as well and had every right and perhaps the duty to leave their husbands. A male could easily divorce his child bride and marry another so that you have serial child molesting of serial child-brides.Lot’s virgin daughters who he raped when drunk had to be underage and yet 2 Peter says Lot was a righteous man. Even if he didn’t know any better, Lot could not be held up as an example. Clearly Peter was condoning what Lot did. He was envying him. This was supposedly Peter the apostle the first pope and who was authorised by Jesus to speak for him. The New Testament sanctions child abuse as much as the Old Testament does. And this was in a culture which accepted such abuse. Even in pagan nations, men slept with little boys and raped them with public approval.
    If a girl was found to be a non-virgin on the wedding night her husband was to have her stoned to death. Yet rape of a virgin, meaning a girl who could have been a child, got a superficial token punishment. Read Deuteronomy 22:20-29. This is as good as a clear endorsement of rape of a female child.
    Father James Martin has no right to say that not knowing Mary’s age means she was not given to Joseph for molestation. It means she could have been. Father Martin is being typically disingenuous.
    Jewish girls were married as soon as they reached puberty or started to menstruate (page 13, 30, Son of Joseph). They were betrothed which was a kind of marriage that took place shortly before full marriage, at about 12 years of age (page 35, Putting Away Childish Things, Uta Ranke-Heinmann, HarperSanFrancisco, 1992). There was no concern for the girl being mature enough or ready for marriage. Girls of that age would have been more innocent and inexperienced and easily taken advantage of than girls today. We are talking about a serious abuse of young girls here. They were used by men and by religion. Rape is not too strong a word to describe what was done to them on the wedding night. The marriage was their lot whether they wanted it or not. The psychological pressure must have been intense. The man who rapes by pressuring a woman is as much a rapist as one who holds the woman down. In fact he is more hateful.
    And the New Testament comes out and sanctions this behaviour when it says that God gave Mary a baby before the wedding. It was bad enough after the wedding but before it meaning she was a younger mother than usual. Her body would not have been near ready.
    A young man [boy] wearing nothing but a linen garment, was following Jesus and alone with him in the garden. When they seized him he fled naked, leaving his garment behind. Read Mark 14. Note: young man is neaniskos, meaning he was in the prime of his life, perhaps 15 to 25 years old. As boys married young the young man was behaving like a single lad. So he was very very young. The New Testament hardly ever uses neaniskos – it prefers other words – which shows it was trying to communicate how young the boy was. If Jesus had not been liquidated for sedition it would have been child molestation. Naked always is associated with degradation and shame and a symbol for sexual abuse. Mark did not need to mention the nakedness so we have innuendo here. This is not a problem for Mark for he was clear that Jesus’ message mattered not Jesus for Jesus even told a man he was not a good teacher as in good person.